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Anonymous wrote:One of my friends had a kid out of wedlock. Never had to stop receiving communion and got married in the catholic church by a priest in the area with the child there. How many people in the church take communion and had an abortion or had ivf and destroyed embryos? Pp has no idea that woman's relationship with God. She went to another church so she stayed religious.

Maybe your friend went to confession and was reconciled? Maybe a lot of women who experienced the trauma of abortion or participated in IVF did the same? All are sinners and grace through confession is available to everyone.

It's ridiculous doctrine like the bolded that has caused the Catholic Church to lose members (that, and the reprehensible sexual molestation of minors and the ensuing cover-up at an institutional level). Women who undergo IVF are sinners? I mean...I know the Church is against birth control and IVF but a lot of Catholics ignore both. The fact that you equated IVF to abortion says a lot.

Jess sits on the right side of the Lord and shall judge the quick and the dead.


What the Nicene forgot to mention....
....and DCUM sits on the left side and shall judge everyone...

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Anonymous wrote:Well your relative would have hated my college priest who allowed me to take communion at mass as a Lutheran. It wasn’t about man’s rules for him. It was about my relationship with Christ that he was happy to help foster. So Jesus of him.

There are narrow circumstances in which non-Catholics are permitted to receive communion in a Catholic Church, if they share the Catholic belief in the Real Presence (via transubstantiation) and cannot reasonably access their own ministers.

To the extent those circumstances do not apply, a priest distributing the Eucharist to a non-Catholic would be following his own (i.e., “man’s”) rules, not the regulations of the divinely instituted Church.

I didn’t and I don’t. Still think that he was following the spirit rather than the letter of the “law”. The spirit is what’s important. Do you think Jesus would deny anyone willing communion?

NP. Ofc he wouldn't but therein lies the problem many have with the Word and how some (many, ime) who practice interpret and apply.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the best advice I received from my very religious (Catholic) mother regarding the religious beliefs of others - specifically to my question of why my uncle did not go to church - was that that was between him and god.

Every thinking Catholics relationship with the Church is complicated and usually not static.

Smart woman. I wish this person who is constantly triggered here would heed this. Focus on your own path.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll go ahead and get flamed and say yes it bothers me although judge is a strong word. It's between them and God, but it feels disrespectful to me and my faith. When the priest or EMHC holds up the Host and says "The Body of Christ", the response of "Amen" is saying "yes, so be it", meaning you agree and acknowledge that statement.

Disrespectful to you?
It isn't about you. Not at all.

Anonymous wrote:One of my friends had a kid out of wedlock. Never had to stop receiving communion and got married in the catholic church by a priest in the area with the child there. How many people in the church take communion and had an abortion or had ivf and destroyed embryos? Pp has no idea that woman's relationship with God. She went to another church so she stayed religious.

Maybe your friend went to confession and was reconciled? Maybe a lot of women who experienced the trauma of abortion or participated in IVF did the same? All are sinners and grace through confession is available to everyone.

My friend also got married in the Catholic Church at five months pregnant but I couldn’t because my husband was divorced. Seems strange.

One of my friends had a kid out of wedlock. Never had to stop receiving communion and got married in the catholic church by a priest in the area with the child there. How many people in the church take communion and had an abortion or had ivf and destroyed embryos? Pp has no idea that woman's relationship with God. She went to another church so she stayed religious.

Anonymous wrote:Some of the best advice I received from my very religious (Catholic) mother regarding the religious beliefs of others - specifically to my question of why my uncle did not go to church - was that that was between him and god.

Every thinking Catholics relationship with the Church is complicated and usually not static.

Smart woman. I wish this person who is constantly triggered here would heed this. Focus on your own path.

Why did my response about how at least 50 percent of priests arr homosexual go away? There must be 30 plus articles on this not to mention the stat about how 9 out of 10 at the Vatican are gay. It's an important point because this woman was culturally a practicing catholic but then went against the church in this one area so she is being discriminated against by her faith while these priests who are discriminating more than half the time have the same behavior just in secret. They are hypocrites becausethey are not scrutinizing otehrs to the same level. This is not a debatable fact at this point that somewhere in the vicinity of half of the priests in the US are homosexual. There is a lot of data on this. Photos, conversations, priests leaving the church because of relationships, crimes reported. There are even catholic extremist groups out there now that track cell phone use of priests.

I’m Catholic and don’t receive communion. I know others who receive it, but probably, if you follow what the church says, shouldn’t receive. This doesn’t bother me one bit and is none of my business- absolutely no judgement.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a parish that was recently in the news for the priest having denied a parishioner communion for being in homosexual relationship (civilly married in fact). She flaunted this and after numerous attempts to correct her, the priest was left with no alternative to deny her Communion as her actions and continued apostasy were not in accord with the faith. The local Bishop very publicly supported the priest. She and her partner left the Church for a denomination that fit with her lifestyle. The vast majority of parishioners supported the Church is denying her Communion.

did this priest also deny communion to all the divorced, cohabitating, remarried people? did he quiz everyone on their masturbation habits? focusing only on the gay couple demonstrates bigotry, nothing less.

Well she left the Church so the point is moot.

maybe to you. I'm sure she and others still feel it's going on and certainly this isn't the last homosexual person the priest will have to deal with. The problem the catholic church has is that the majority of their priests are homosexual and engage in relations.

It certainly isn’t the last person with homosexual desires that the priest will try to help. The issue was the scandal it was causing via the parishioner’s very visible denial of the Church’s doctrine. The priest simply validated her already displayed denial of the faith.

Completely true, but now another person is lost to the Catholic faith and still people pretend that there aren't closeted married people cheating on their spouses and closeted priests cheating on God. It was "public". That was the only fault.

“Another person is lost to the Catholic faith.” That’s not true. The person involved has the rest of their life to make a firm purpose of amendment, seek reconciliation and return to active practice, and they will be welcomed if they decide to take that path. If they choose not to, it is hard to see them as “lost,” as compared to having self-navigated away.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a parish that was recently in the news for the priest having denied a parishioner communion for being in homosexual relationship (civilly married in fact). She flaunted this and after numerous attempts to correct her, the priest was left with no alternative to deny her Communion as her actions and continued apostasy were not in accord with the faith. The local Bishop very publicly supported the priest. She and her partner left the Church for a denomination that fit with her lifestyle. The vast majority of parishioners supported the Church is denying her Communion.

did this priest also deny communion to all the divorced, cohabitating, remarried people? did he quiz everyone on their masturbation habits? focusing only on the gay couple demonstrates bigotry, nothing less.

Well she left the Church so the point is moot.

maybe to you. I'm sure she and others still feel it's going on and certainly this isn't the last homosexual person the priest will have to deal with. The problem the catholic church has is that the majority of their priests are homosexual and engage in relations.

There are more than 37,000 Catholic priests in the United States, and you’ve defamed them with absolutely no foundation. “The majority” of Catholic priests do not have a homosexual orientation, and even among those who do “the majority” are not engaging in sexual relations. There are plenty of sexual sinners among all denominations and their clergy.

And replying to a different poster, yes, the public and openly contumacious nature of the behavior in the cited case was what justified a public response. The person who approached the Eucharist had no interest in “communion,” and was looking for a way to blame others for their own decision to live a non-Catholic life. It is extremely unlikely that the public denial of the Eucharist was not preceded by multiple events of consultation, counsel, listening, accompaniment and cautioning.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a parish that was recently in the news for the priest having denied a parishioner communion for being in homosexual relationship (civilly married in fact). She flaunted this and after numerous attempts to correct her, the priest was left with no alternative to deny her Communion as her actions and continued apostasy were not in accord with the faith. The local Bishop very publicly supported the priest. She and her partner left the Church for a denomination that fit with her lifestyle. The vast majority of parishioners supported the Church is denying her Communion.

did this priest also deny communion to all the divorced, cohabitating, remarried people? did he quiz everyone on their masturbation habits? focusing only on the gay couple demonstrates bigotry, nothing less.

Well she left the Church so the point is moot.

maybe to you. I'm sure she and others still feel it's going on and certainly this isn't the last homosexual person the priest will have to deal with. The problem the catholic church has is that the majority of their priests are homosexual and engage in relations.

It certainly isn’t the last person with homosexual desires that the priest will try to help. The issue was the scandal it was causing via the parishioner’s very visible denial of the Church’s doctrine. The priest simply validated her already displayed denial of the faith.

Completely true, but now another person is lost to the Catholic faith and still people pretend that there aren't closeted married people cheating on their spouses and closeted priests cheating on God. It was "public". That was the only fault.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a parish that was recently in the news for the priest having denied a parishioner communion for being in homosexual relationship (civilly married in fact). She flaunted this and after numerous attempts to correct her, the priest was left with no alternative to deny her Communion as her actions and continued apostasy were not in accord with the faith. The local Bishop very publicly supported the priest. She and her partner left the Church for a denomination that fit with her lifestyle. The vast majority of parishioners supported the Church is denying her Communion.

did this priest also deny communion to all the divorced, cohabitating, remarried people? did he quiz everyone on their masturbation habits? focusing only on the gay couple demonstrates bigotry, nothing less.

Well she left the Church so the point is moot.

maybe to you. I'm sure she and others still feel it's going on and certainly this isn't the last homosexual person the priest will have to deal with. The problem the catholic church has is that the majority of their priests are homosexual and engage in relations.

It certainly isn’t the last person with homosexual desires that the priest will try to help. The issue was the scandal it was causing via the parishioner’s very visible denial of the Church’s doctrine. The priest simply validated her already displayed denial of the faith.