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Anonymous wrote:Yale isn’t even in fashion anymore due to not being strong in all subjects like HPSM, and with STEM becoming increasingly relevant.

Harvard isn’t particularly strong in Engineering either.

Cornell is the strongest Ivy for engineering and CS and is the only one my kid considered. Penn and Columbia also have good programs, but DC didn’t want a city school. The rest of the Ivies are not top for engineering and CS undergrad and most top candidates look elsewhere. So it’s not always Ivy or bust for top students.

I think that really bright kids who can live without investment-banking-type connections will generally prefer non-Ivy top 15 schools because of a sense that, aside from Cornell, the Ivy League admissions frenzy favors ferocious networking and cynical resume-building over intelligence, curiosity and seriousness of purpose.

The Ivy League schools seem to be for the kids who could read Plato for fun but would never do such a thing, because it would never produce a good ROI.

Anonymous wrote:Yale isn’t even in fashion anymore due to not being strong in all subjects like HPSM, and with STEM becoming increasingly relevant.

The kinds of lemming kids you’re talking about deserve to be at Lemming Jerk U., not at any serious university. If they avoid Yale, that’s a plus for Yale.

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Anonymous wrote:This kind of a kid. She is in Stanford now https://www.youthassembly.org/2021/09/21/natalie-hampton/#:~:text=She%20is%20a%20counselor%20for,campus%20of%20Children's%20Institute%20Inc.

Another kid I know attended MOP twice, he is going to MIT to study CS

More on MOP

In 2021, 60+ students were invited to this selective program from a pool of over 132,000 AMC 10/12 participants.

https://www.maa.org/the-mathematical-olympiad-program-mop

The first one is the kind of fake profile you pay a consultant for. Good for her that it worked. If you think she’s genuine, search for her app in the App Store

Colleges don't want "smart" people. The want "successful" people. Nepo babies whose parents hire consultants to build junk apps for publicists to promote, and go on stage to shill at TEDx, are "successful", because they have powerful people in their corner.

*Ivy colleges.

FIFY.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know who is a billionaire did not go to an Ivy and neither did their kids.

Are you counting the bllionaires that dropped out? You clearly don't know many...Zuckerberg, Bezos, Gates, Sam Altman, Citadel and Blackstone founders...the list of billionaires is massively weighted towards grads or drop-outs from top 10 schools.

As DP pointed out...I doubt you know any billionaires, so not really relevant.

DP only admitted to +500 million earners. The two billionaires I know went to Big Ten schools.