Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:27
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.
Obama proposed a federal pay raise and the Republican congress blocked it, forcing a pay freeze. But ok, his fault. Have you read anything that Trump or DeSantis has said about the deep state and federal employees? If you're a single issue voter on the federal workforce this is not a close call.
This is a rewriting of history. Obama preemptively offered the two-year pay freeze because he was a terrible negotiator. There was no proposal for a pay raise that was blocked. I was a federal employee at the time, and we were shocked by it.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:07
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.
I’m a fed who loves telework and think the RTO pitch is definitely driven by private sector financial interests. And I’m not some huge fan of Biden either, but there’s no way I’m voting Republican when women’s reproductive rights are being taken away and guns are one of the top killers of children in this country. I’m not giving up my morals in some total gamble that maybe a Republican will be more telework friendly. Also, remember which party is trying to decrease the power of unions, which have a huge part in negotiating telework agreements at many agencies.
It’s just such a bizarre take to vote R over this.
1. Reproductive rights aren't changing for the better anytime soon. That battle is lost. The Supreme Court is 6-3.
2. Gun deaths are out of control in DC. What have Biden and Boswer done to prevent these gun deaths?
3. How is Biden honoring unions when he seems to believe that he can single-handedly force federal employees back to the office?
Maybe you should start demanding that Biden actually show some results for your vote.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:04
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.
Obama proposed a federal pay raise and the Republican congress blocked it, forcing a pay freeze. But ok, his fault. Have you read anything that Trump or DeSantis has said about the deep state and federal employees? If you're a single issue voter on the federal workforce this is not a close call.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:03
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.
You are out of your damn mind. Rs hate the federal workforce and would like nothing better than to make it as miserable of a job as possible to tank productivity so that they can scuttle as much as possible, or at least the parts that don’t kill foreigners.
Are you so out of it that you completely missed that the “show up” act passed almost entirely on a party-line vote with Rs voting for it? They wanted to completely rewind to 2019 as of earlier this year.
If you think Rs are better for the federal workforce, you are as stupid as they come.
WASHINGTON—House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer today applauded House passage of the Stopping Home Office Work’s Unproductive Problems (SHOW UP) Act (H.R. 139), a bill he introduced to prevent the Biden Administration from cementing heightened pandemic-era telework policies until it proves the efficacy of remote work.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:03
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Biden will lose the state of Virginia. NoVa voters will turn on him in a heartbeat. Not sure why he is throwing away his re-election just because Bowser needs a lifeline for the crime-ridden city that she can't control.
So, you’re going to vote Biden out because he makes you RTO a couple DOW to elect a lunatic that will do the same and more? Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face!
Yes, these angry civil servants will vote against Biden because they have to return to the office 2 or 3 days a week, and if Trump / DeSantis wins they will be back 4 or 5 days a week. So logical!
Can you direct us to where Trump/DeSantis have said that they will mandate 4-5 days per week?
Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:01
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.
I’m a fed who loves telework and think the RTO pitch is definitely driven by private sector financial interests. And I’m not some huge fan of Biden either, but there’s no way I’m voting Republican when women’s reproductive rights are being taken away and guns are one of the top killers of children in this country. I’m not giving up my morals in some total gamble that maybe a Republican will be more telework friendly. Also, remember which party is trying to decrease the power of unions, which have a huge part in negotiating telework agreements at many agencies.
It’s just such a bizarre take to vote R over this.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:01
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Biden will lose the state of Virginia. NoVa voters will turn on him in a heartbeat. Not sure why he is throwing away his re-election just because Bowser needs a lifeline for the crime-ridden city that she can't control.
So, you’re going to vote Biden out because he makes you RTO a couple DOW to elect a lunatic that will do the same and more? Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face!
Yes, these angry civil servants will vote against Biden because they have to return to the office 2 or 3 days a week, and if Trump / DeSantis wins they will be back 4 or 5 days a week. So logical!
Anonymous
08/06/2023 21:00
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Biden will lose the state of Virginia. NoVa voters will turn on him in a heartbeat. Not sure why he is throwing away his re-election just because Bowser needs a lifeline for the crime-ridden city that she can't control.
So, you’re going to vote Biden out because he makes you RTO a couple DOW to elect a lunatic that will do the same and more? Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face!
IDK, maybe this is important to PP?
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:57
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Biden will lose the state of Virginia. NoVa voters will turn on him in a heartbeat. Not sure why he is throwing away his re-election just because Bowser needs a lifeline for the crime-ridden city that she can't control.
So, you’re going to vote Biden out because he makes you RTO a couple DOW to elect a lunatic that will do the same and more? Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face!
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:56
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.
Single issue voter
Maybe Biden shouldn't take one of his core constituencies for granted?
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:53
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Biden will lose the state of Virginia. NoVa voters will turn on him in a heartbeat. Not sure why he is throwing away his re-election just because Bowser needs a lifeline for the crime-ridden city that she can't control.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:52
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.
Single issue voter
Yet, PP's vote counts as much as yours and mine.
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:52
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Bring it on Biden!
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:51
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.
Single issue voter
Anonymous
08/06/2023 20:34
Subject: Biden wants RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re now seriously arguing that if Trump were president he wouldn’t be ordering federal workers back to the office? Really?
No Ms. Strawman, we are not arguing that because Trump is not in office and its irrelevant.
Really.
Only replying to the poster who said they wouldn’t vote Biden 2024 because of RTO. Republicans are much more hellbent on making life difficult for Feds.
This is not as clear an issue as you'd think, and I'll take my chances with a Republican if Biden continues this nonsense. For example, the former chair of FDIC was a Republican and was very pro-WFH, then she quit and now her successor, who is a Democrat, has been endlessly trying to find ways to undercut WFH, even though the CBA allows full-time WFH for most employees. The Republican former chair was pro-WFH because she thought it was good for cutting costs associated with expensive building leases.
Also, if you look back historically, pay raises for federal employees have been more generous under Republican administrations. Remember all those pay freezes under Obama? (Don't rely on the pay raise that happened in the past year, which was an anomaly in the grand scheme.)
I'm a Democrat, but while most stuff that happens at the national level really doesn't impact me, forcing me to go back to the office absolutely does, and so for the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republican president if Biden continues this effort.