Anonymous
08/02/2023 11:27
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I went to a Jesuit college and Notre Dame for grad school. There wasn’t much of a different with respect to the Catholic thing. Jesuit school graduates and parents of students routinely overstate this.
Grad school and undergrad are not comparable when all undergrads live on campus for 3 to 4 years.
I understand that. But I studied on the Notre Dame campus for three years and had many friends there who also went to Notre Dame as undergraduates. It’s a very tight knit and cohesive community. I had about as thorough an exposure to the ND undergrad experience as any non ND undergrad could have. Certainly a lot more of an exposure than you.
People are just envious about the fact that a school has such a wonderful community feel and family environment. It is unique among the many top universities. My daughter loves it. They can avoid if that's not for them.
Never really looked into ND much (not my thing) but I was just looking at some pictures of the campus after seeing some images on here and it looks absolutely beautiful.
It really is a stunningly beautiful campus.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 21:13
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
No worries about ND. It'll continue to do great.
My kid was like T20 overall T10 undergrad business, phenomenal opportunities, who cares about religion.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
I don’t see ND listed here.
It only shows for premium members, but I believe ND is right after #8 there.
In reality, few school can claim better than ND for undergrad business - maybe about 3-4 including schools like UPenn Wharton.
ND is #10 here for finance target
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
NOTE: it's not just among undergrad business program. It's among all the top schools/programs.
#16 overall for consulting target, but #7 among schools with undergrad business
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools
#9 overall #6 among undergrad business here
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
Anonymous
08/01/2023 20:56
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
No worries about ND. It'll continue to do great.
My kid was like T20 overall T10 undergrad business, phenomenal opportunities, who cares about religion.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
I don’t see ND listed here.
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/2/
Oh ok I thought you were serious about the rankings.
Oh seems like you don't know much about the field.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 18:52
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
No worries about ND. It'll continue to do great.
My kid was like T20 overall T10 undergrad business, phenomenal opportunities, who cares about religion.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
I don’t see ND listed here.
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/2/
Oh ok I thought you were serious about the rankings.
US News ranks ND #6 in Accountancy. The rank for business overall is locked, so maybe someone with a subscription can share. My guess is that it is at least top 20 in USN, but I don't know. Here are all the rankings for ND in US News.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 18:41
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
No worries about ND. It'll continue to do great.
My kid was like T20 overall T10 undergrad business, phenomenal opportunities, who cares about religion.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
I don’t see ND listed here.
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/2/
Oh ok I thought you were serious about the rankings.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 18:29
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
No worries about ND. It'll continue to do great.
My kid was like T20 overall T10 undergrad business, phenomenal opportunities, who cares about religion.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
I don’t see ND listed here.
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/2/
Anonymous
08/01/2023 17:53
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
No worries about ND. It'll continue to do great.
My kid was like T20 overall T10 undergrad business, phenomenal opportunities, who cares about religion.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
I don’t see ND listed here.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 17:34
Subject: Re:Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Traditional Catholic
Other fabulous ND icons:
Mary on top of the golden dome:
The Grotto:
First Down Moses:
Statue of Jesus in "God Quad" with Basilica of the Sacred Heart in the background:
Anonymous
08/01/2023 17:16
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
I do not get what you think this "more traditional Catholic" means to the average kid attending college and studying, say chemical engineering. They all drink the same gross beer out the same kegs and pull all nighters before finals.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 16:46
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
No worries about ND. It'll continue to do great.
My kid was like T20 overall T10 undergrad business, phenomenal opportunities, who cares about religion.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 16:45
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
What I CAN say is that Georgetown has for generations quite deliberately has set itself apart from other Catholic schools and is without question the least Catholic of any major Catholic university in this country.
BC, on the other hand, is much more Catholic than Georgetown and is located in a very Catholic city. And you’re right - not every student who applies to BC also applies to ND. But many, many students apply to both schools, and there are many BC students who did not get into ND. Fact.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 16:20
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.
You can’t refute the opinion that ND is more traditional Catholic than Georgetown/BC or that lots of kids will apply to BC but not ND.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 16:16
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
Yep
Anonymous
08/01/2023 14:53
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha).[i][u] Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
And this is why ND is better than your Jesuit undergrad.... Sunday NIGHT masses in the dorms at ND, so that you don't waste Saturday evening pre-partying time at church, and you're no longer hung over by the time mass rolls around Sunday night
And it wasn't at all unusual to see kids in pajamas at those Sunday night dorm masses. About as casual and far from hair shirts as you could get.
But yeah - I have a sibling who went to BC and I went to ND. From the Catholic point of view for your average undergrad, there's really no difference that either of us could detect.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 14:48
Subject: Notre Dame as non-typical student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m the Jesuit undergrad / Notre Dame grad school poster. When I was an undergrad I’d say 4 out of 5 of my better friends went to Sunday Mass (or Saturday evening Mass in the fine Catholic tradition of “getting it over with” ha ha). Sure they were usually hung over, but they went. I never did.
No different at Notre Dame, really. Part of the reason for high attendance is that the school holds Masses everywhere so it’s very easy to go.
This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day is so silly. Yes, it’s a Catholic school. Yes, the majority of its students are Catholic. Yes, it has a more moderate student body overall than UC-Berkeley. But it is as mainstream a school as they come. So long as you are minimally tolerant of religion - as opposed to anti-religion - you’re fine.
My own kids went to UVA. So far as I can tell, basically UVA is Notre Dame without required religion classes.
You’re the only one with this idea.
Actually, my siblings and I and our kids would agree. Some of us went to UVa and some to ND (and some to other schools). Lots of similarities.
"This idea that the ND student body wears hair shirts and flagellates itself all day"
You are really dense. My point was only that the school is not nearly as religious as so many people make it out to be.
No one made the argument you’re pretending. So you’re refuting nothing. Good on you.
What are you talking about? The knock on Notre Dame is always that it’s super Catholic,
that you have to be a practicing Catholic to fit in, and that Jesuit colleges are sooo different.
That argument has very much been made on this very thread, and so yes, I am refuting it.