Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 16:52     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The NVSL D1 starter was a mess - icing heat after heat of kids until an 8U finally false started and was walked off deck sobbing. I’m not sure if they replaced the starter or he just got his head right, but it was better after that.

Other than that, Tuckahoe ran a great meet.


“Icing”?


The pp is probably referencing the starter giving the “stand” command after “Take your marks” because someone isn’t getting set.


That’s what they are supposed to do. Otherwise, you have an even worse situation where you made them wait to long.


PP here.
Yes. I agree.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:48     Subject: Re:Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
A pool that has to do that has no business hosting.


I assume from this comment your pool regularly volunteers to host?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:15     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The NVSL D1 starter was a mess - icing heat after heat of kids until an 8U finally false started and was walked off deck sobbing. I’m not sure if they replaced the starter or he just got his head right, but it was better after that.

Other than that, Tuckahoe ran a great meet.


“Icing”?


The pp is probably referencing the starter giving the “stand” command after “Take your marks” because someone isn’t getting set.


That’s what they are supposed to do. Otherwise, you have an even worse situation where you made them wait to long.


Yes, I was thinking this is what the poster meant by icing .. making them hold the ready position too long.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 15:10     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The NVSL D1 starter was a mess - icing heat after heat of kids until an 8U finally false started and was walked off deck sobbing. I’m not sure if they replaced the starter or he just got his head right, but it was better after that.

Other than that, Tuckahoe ran a great meet.


“Icing”?


The pp is probably referencing the starter giving the “stand” command after “Take your marks” because someone isn’t getting set.


That’s what they are supposed to do. Otherwise, you have an even worse situation where you made them wait to long.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:49     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The NVSL D1 starter was a mess - icing heat after heat of kids until an 8U finally false started and was walked off deck sobbing. I’m not sure if they replaced the starter or he just got his head right, but it was better after that.

Other than that, Tuckahoe ran a great meet.


“Icing”?


The pp is probably referencing the starter giving the “stand” command after “Take your marks” because someone isn’t getting set.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:45     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:The NVSL D1 starter was a mess - icing heat after heat of kids until an 8U finally false started and was walked off deck sobbing. I’m not sure if they replaced the starter or he just got his head right, but it was better after that.

Other than that, Tuckahoe ran a great meet.


“Icing”?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:26     Subject: Divisionals
The NVSL D1 starter was a mess - icing heat after heat of kids until an 8U finally false started and was walked off deck sobbing. I’m not sure if they replaced the starter or he just got his head right, but it was better after that.

Other than that, Tuckahoe ran a great meet.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 14:12     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:Most tech suits only last a thousand yards or so until they start losing their effectiveness. Many swimmers wear a different suit for warmups and cool downs. Since it takes 30-45 minutes for girls to put on a well fitting kneeskin, they’ll often wear a practice suit over their tech suit. Depends on how much time they have to change between warmups and their first event.


30-45 minutes is a bit extreme. More like 5-10. Kids aren't spending 30-45 minutes in cabanas at the pool changing. Get real.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 11:49     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most tech suits only last a thousand yards or so until they start losing their effectiveness. Many swimmers wear a different suit for warmups and cool downs. Since it takes 30-45 minutes for girls to put on a well fitting kneeskin, they’ll often wear a practice suit over their tech suit. Depends on how much time they have to change between warmups and their first event.


I saw that. Can I ask what the purpose is for wearing a practice suit over the tech suit? It still is getting wet and stretched out.


DP. I only see kids do that so the suit is protected from sitting on concrete and to add drag. Given that the first sign of failure of my kids’ suits was from the areas where they were pulling it on (near waistband), I’ll take the lesser of two evils and tell them to stay in their suits between races. They warm up and cool down in practice suits.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 10:16     Subject: Re:Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:A changing cabana is basically a really tall narrow tent that a swimmer can stand in to change. A lot of kids choose to suit up at bigger meets and can use the tent to change into their racing suit and out of it before and between races


Thanks, that makes sense. I'm just surprised I haven't seen it before-- though maybe it is at the division A/B levels? Plenty of kids in tech suits at divisionals yesterday, but they didn't change.


The bathrooms were reserved for officials, so they provided a bank of cabanas for kids to change into tech suits. But they weren’t like the cheap, narrow pop up tents that you see at all stars. They were like the nice changing cabanas at Metro Swim. My DD actually preferred it to changing in the bathroom.


In MCSL swimmers are allowed to swim 4 strokes, not 2 like NVSL. Which means there are fewer swimmers per team. I'm guessing this is why you had to get porta potties? So many more swimmers and families? Our mcsl divisional pool bathroom was never crowded. Fwiw I like the NVSL method better--more kids get to swim in divisionals.


?? MCSL has a 3 event per swimmer limit (+1 for IM) for all A and divisional meets .(actually rule is total 5 and not all 4 individual events, but you almost never have the same swimmer swim the open medley relay + the end of meet 175 freestyle relay since there's no 15-18 slot in that relay , so its usually easier to think of 3 out of 4 + 1 IM http://mcsl.org/documents/2023-handbook.pdf page 52). For individual all stars the limit is 2 total, I believe including IM
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:49     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:Most tech suits only last a thousand yards or so until they start losing their effectiveness. Many swimmers wear a different suit for warmups and cool downs. Since it takes 30-45 minutes for girls to put on a well fitting kneeskin, they’ll often wear a practice suit over their tech suit. Depends on how much time they have to change between warmups and their first event.


I saw that. Can I ask what the purpose is for wearing a practice suit over the tech suit? It still is getting wet and stretched out.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:29     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The tshirt vendor is ridiculous. The line was several hours long. I couldn’t believe how many parents were willing to wait hours in line for overpriced tshirts.


Ours didn't have an hours long line, but it was consistently busy and was definitely overpriced. Under prepared, too, since they seemed surprised to be so busy and by mid way through IMs they were already out of a decent number of items/sizes. The meet itself was well run, IMO, and only a bit behind the anticipated schedule. Plus my kid dropped time and was happy with her performance (especially since she hadn't even expected to swim Divisionals this year) so I give a thumbs up to the host pool and the experience as a whole.


Ours didn't even have t-shirts ("the vendor fell through").


Division 13?


Yes. All else was well-run (signage could have been better for spectator entrance and exit vs swimmers) and the parking situation was great!
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 07:16     Subject: Divisionals
Most tech suits only last a thousand yards or so until they start losing their effectiveness. Many swimmers wear a different suit for warmups and cool downs. Since it takes 30-45 minutes for girls to put on a well fitting kneeskin, they’ll often wear a practice suit over their tech suit. Depends on how much time they have to change between warmups and their first event.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 23:06     Subject: Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:I was very impressed with division 6. Very well organized. Great food. Took care of their volunteers. Parking was smooth and efficient. Everyone was friendly and welcoming. Loved the changing cabanas for the swimmers- nice to have if you didn’t lug your own. Lots of shaded spectator seating. Nice signage. They put a lot of effort into it and it showed. Thank you Pinecrest!


I have to agree. Pinecrest did a great job at divisionals. They had so many volunteers. The pop up tents were a great idea and the spectator area was very shady and well laid out. Thanks a bunch for all your hard work.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 23:05     Subject: Re:Divisionals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A changing cabana is basically a really tall narrow tent that a swimmer can stand in to change. A lot of kids choose to suit up at bigger meets and can use the tent to change into their racing suit and out of it before and between races



Whaaaat?!?! Doesn’t this just stretch out the suit faster? In MCSL we come dressed ready to swim. Get in and get out.

I do not understand the changing in and out during the course of a meet. My 11-12 kid is a club swimmer and even at the PVS champs meets the kids are not running to a bathroom to change suits between events, it’s so absurd. According to my DD her 12U tech suit is so tight that getting it on and off while wet would be a giant PITA. Apparently the 13+ kids (girls anyway) who can wear an actual tech suit will bring a bikini top to wear so that they can take the straps down.


My kid changes out of the suit right after the last event. The suit is too expensive to hang out in.