Anonymous
07/19/2023 14:12
Subject: Re:“Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
One of the problems that I think Dems are going to run into in the next election is the sense that there's nothing we can do. Sure, I can vote blue for candidates who are more radical than I want because I'm mad about SCOTUS and I don't want my kids to get shot in school. But given the absolute f*ing partisan gridlock of our government, I have very little faith that we're going to get abortion rights legislation or see any gun legislation (in Virginia or on a national level).
I'm going to vote anyway, but I could see this leading to a lot of apathetic moderate Dems who just decide to stay home.
I'm going to vote anyway, but I could see this leading to a lot of apathetic moderate Dems who just decide to stay home.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 14:02
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:I've never read this blog.
There are jerks at every point on the political spectrum. My views are based on what policies I think are right, morally or practically. I don't pick my politics to avoid jerks, because they're unavoidable.
+1.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:52
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
I've never met a kid who didn't walk past what they weren't interested in to get to what they wanted. Doesn't matter if the display is science books, Harry Potter or banned books.
You do realize that there are a fair number of parents out there who want to van Harry Potter because they are "satanic"?
But why is gender the most important topic to the librarians? Sure the kids can walk past it, but they can't completely ignore it because it is right in their face. "Read banned books!" They can have a section for gender the same as everything else but they don't need to push it non-stop. The funny thing is that the only books on the topic that are really banned are the ones discouraging medication and surgery for kids.
Your perception that librarians are "pushing gender non-stop" says a lot about your perceptions.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:52
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
The left is going too far left here in VA and clearly from the last governor election it's back firing!!!! The need to come back a little center right now. Stop scaring people off lol.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:23
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
I've never met a kid who didn't walk past what they weren't interested in to get to what they wanted. Doesn't matter if the display is science books, Harry Potter or banned books.
You do realize that there are a fair number of parents out there who want to van Harry Potter because they are "satanic"?
But why is gender the most important topic to the librarians? Sure the kids can walk past it, but they can't completely ignore it because it is right in their face. "Read banned books!" They can have a section for gender the same as everything else but they don't need to push it non-stop. The funny thing is that the only books on the topic that are really banned are the ones discouraging medication and surgery for kids.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:15
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
This is what pisses me off about the banned book stuff - it's that the left does it too and they don't acknowledge it. I'm against censorship on both sides.
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Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:13
Subject: Re:“Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:You keep using that terminology to dismiss posters without even trying to dismiss the facts. I'm sorry, but you're the one down that proverbial rabbit hole.
I'll assume you're unable or unwilling to argue in good faith, so I'll just say "have a nice day."
I agree - I am going to stop responding to that person too - thank you.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:13
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also didn't like how the mainstream media tried to hide the Biden laptop story. I think that was shady - so makes me trust them less - on top of the "ministry of truth" covid stuff - blocking stuff that actually wasn't wrong.
You, also, are not a person who votes for Democrats, but rather a person who is way, way down the right-wing media rabbit hole.
Everything the PP you responded to was factually correct. I see why you chose the "putdown" route rather than the "address facts" route on this one.
This was factually correct?! "I also didn't like how the mainstream media tried to hide the Biden laptop story. I think that was shady - so makes me trust them less - on top of the "ministry of truth" covid stuff - blocking stuff that actually wasn't wrong."
Yeah, no. Even the PP their own self was presenting it as opinion.
The bolded parts are factual. There is no way you can dispute that. Even CBS and the NYT wouldn't dispute those two facts at this point.
Evidently, when I say "facts", and when you say "facts", we are referring to different things.
Gotcha.... so the media didn't try to hide the laptop story and folks were not censored at the request of the government for espousing contrarian views about Covid (including the origins as well as any potential detriments from the vaccine). It must be nice down in the sand.
One of us is way down a rabbit hole. One of us is not.
It's definitely you who has got their head in the sand.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:11
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also didn't like how the mainstream media tried to hide the Biden laptop story. I think that was shady - so makes me trust them less - on top of the "ministry of truth" covid stuff - blocking stuff that actually wasn't wrong.
You, also, are not a person who votes for Democrats, but rather a person who is way, way down the right-wing media rabbit hole.
Everything the PP you responded to was factually correct. I see why you chose the "putdown" route rather than the "address facts" route on this one.
This was factually correct?! "I also didn't like how the mainstream media tried to hide the Biden laptop story. I think that was shady - so makes me trust them less - on top of the "ministry of truth" covid stuff - blocking stuff that actually wasn't wrong."
Yeah, no. Even the PP their own self was presenting it as opinion.
It's my opinion that I didn't like it. It's a fact that they did it.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:09
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also didn't like how the mainstream media tried to hide the Biden laptop story. I think that was shady - so makes me trust them less - on top of the "ministry of truth" covid stuff - blocking stuff that actually wasn't wrong.
You, also, are not a person who votes for Democrats, but rather a person who is way, way down the right-wing media rabbit hole.
No - I am correct and I've spoken to many doctors. You literally cannot prove me wrong with any data, esp. on the covid points and natural immunity, for example. You are drinking the left wing koolaid instead of using your own brain - and that's the entire problem.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:06
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
I've never met a kid who didn't walk past what they weren't interested in to get to what they wanted. Doesn't matter if the display is science books, Harry Potter or banned books.
You do realize that there are a fair number of parents out there who want to van Harry Potter because they are "satanic"?
Anonymous
07/19/2023 13:03
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
The banned book stuff is what gets me. I'm all for having books in schools but when I go to the middle or high school the very first display I see is "Books people don't want you to read" with all of the gender stuff. Why do my kids need to walk past all of that to get a copy of Harry Potter?
Anonymous
07/19/2023 12:38
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know anything re Blue Virginia but people in NOVA live in a serious bubble and seem to not comprehend that the rest of Virginia doesn't live or think like NOVA.
Virginia, IMO, has always been purple, moderate. I was born and raised in Richmond, I have extended family all over Virginia (from Martinsville to Surry to the NN). I have lived up here for 20 years now. The average Virginian is a decent, nice person who cares about their family, their neighbors, their community and the world in general. They live by doing what they think is right. They are not extreme, on either end. They don't like policies or things that are severe. They are not crass, or showy and are not attracted to politicians who are (like Trump).
Virginia is socially center left (live and let live) and fiscally center right. Today I would consider myself what we used to call a GDI (god damn independent) because the term moderate these days seems to have negative connotations in NOVA.
A third of Virginians live in northern Virginia. That's a big bubble.
And according to your stats 2/3 live outside of it. It’s a big state. Go explore.
Anonymous
07/19/2023 12:31
Subject: Re:“Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
You keep using that terminology to dismiss posters without even trying to dismiss the facts. I'm sorry, but you're the one down that proverbial rabbit hole.
I'll assume you're unable or unwilling to argue in good faith, so I'll just say "have a nice day."
I'll assume you're unable or unwilling to argue in good faith, so I'll just say "have a nice day."
Anonymous
07/19/2023 12:27
Subject: “Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also didn't like how the mainstream media tried to hide the Biden laptop story. I think that was shady - so makes me trust them less - on top of the "ministry of truth" covid stuff - blocking stuff that actually wasn't wrong.
You, also, are not a person who votes for Democrats, but rather a person who is way, way down the right-wing media rabbit hole.
Everything the PP you responded to was factually correct. I see why you chose the "putdown" route rather than the "address facts" route on this one.
This was factually correct?! "I also didn't like how the mainstream media tried to hide the Biden laptop story. I think that was shady - so makes me trust them less - on top of the "ministry of truth" covid stuff - blocking stuff that actually wasn't wrong."
Yeah, no. Even the PP their own self was presenting it as opinion.
The bolded parts are factual. There is no way you can dispute that. Even CBS and the NYT wouldn't dispute those two facts at this point.
Evidently, when I say "facts", and when you say "facts", we are referring to different things.
Gotcha.... so the media didn't try to hide the laptop story and folks were not censored at the request of the government for espousing contrarian views about Covid (including the origins as well as any potential detriments from the vaccine). It must be nice down in the sand.
One of us is way down a rabbit hole. One of us is not.