Tpes/ESS

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Yes. That is why forced diversity in SES does not work. The realities are just too different.
What these schools need is more funding and more social workers to help with the conversations that matter to them. Immigrant and single parent households, working-class parents and involvement with children, food security, childcare after hours, tutoring, mentoring.
Simple statistics do nothing, the student body looks diverse on paper but the scores tell the real story. Low SES children need help, not quotas. That is real equity, not a mixing that makes inequalities so obvious that it becomes a problem no one talks about and which is not fixed at the core.

Voluntary self-segregation is so much better!

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Anonymous wrote:I am moving to Maryland soon and I’d like to know which schools have the most diversity. Also, I’m looking for something that has high test scores as well.

Depends what you mean by diverse. My child's school is racially diverse. He's white and 12% of the student population is white. But it also comes with a low SES so it is a pretty miserable school.

Contrast to the very diverse small private school he came from, where he was also a racial minority. But everyone obviously was middle class and higher. That was an amazing experience and I wish we could have continued it.

If I could have changed anything, I would have avoided low SES schools like the plague.

Op, listen to this pp.

AKA, "I got mine and to hell with everyone else."

Serious question, what good is my child's presence in a failing school? Yes, I contribute to PTSA and volunteer, but one person doesn't make a difference. 25 people don't make difference. And that's about the size of the active PTSA members, who are all white and Asian/South Asian. In a predominately Latino and Black school.

The causes of the problems are much bigger than the school community. They are things the schools cannot fix.

Yes. That is why forced diversity in SES does not work. The realities are just too different.
What these schools need is more funding and more social workers to help with the conversations that matter to them. Immigrant and single parent households, working-class parents and involvement with children, food security, childcare after hours, tutoring, mentoring.
Simple statistics do nothing, the student body looks diverse on paper but the scores tell the real story. Low SES children need help, not quotas. That is real equity, not a mixing that makes inequalities so obvious that it becomes a problem no one talks about and which is not fixed at the core.

I'm almost afraid to read the comments but in case no one has suggested it, College Garden es! Diverse school, diverse neighborhood, many kids going to Eastern magnet afterwards and the IB magnet at RMHS

Anonymous wrote:Rock Creek Forest, on the edge of Chevy Chase and Silver Spring. 35% Hispanic/Latino, 31% White, 22% Black and 6% Asian. It’s also socioeconomically diverse, with some Chevy Chase parents with disposable time and income to give to the school and lower income families who live in the apartments on Grubb. It’s a wonderful community.

+1

amazing community too

Rock Creek Forest ES

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Anonymous wrote:Look at silver spring and takoma park

Many of these schools have a nearly even balance racially and include SES diversity.

+1. We're at Highland View which has a diverse student body. I'm not sure what the test scores are like, I've only ever looked at my own kid's scores, but we've been very happy.

Anonymous wrote:Rock Creek Forest, on the edge of Chevy Chase and Silver Spring. 35% Hispanic/Latino, 31% White, 22% Black and 6% Asian. It’s also socioeconomically diverse, with some Chevy Chase parents with disposable time and income to give to the school and lower income families who live in the apartments on Grubb. It’s a wonderful community.

This is ideal.

Anonymous wrote:Hey op: you can search for “at a glance” fact sheets on each mcps school on their site. You’ll see recent data on demographics, farms (which indicates low income), special Ed, test scores, etc.

Search crime rates and sex offender registries by zip code.

Thanks!

I am a parent of a child who is at a title 1 school. I am involved on my DD's PTA and we have about 10-15 members that is a diverse mix. However, it is hard to make any changes and get anything done with so little support. Also, many of the title 1 schools don't have the best after care programs and limited clubs available - like my DD's school. The school itself has good teachers so far however the kids who misbehave get more attention then the kids that are doing good. My child is doing well academically and gets some enrichment but I don't think she would if she were in a lower farms school.

I think the strength and involvement of the PTA shows the involvement of the community so this is what I am looking for when I move. You can have a title 1 school like Viers Mill with a 60's farm rate but still have good programming for the kids. They don't have the best after care program but they have club offerings, and a strong PTA that offers school wide events.

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Anonymous wrote:I am moving to Maryland soon and I’d like to know which schools have the most diversity. Also, I’m looking for something that has high test scores as well.

Depends what you mean by diverse. My child's school is racially diverse. He's white and 12% of the student population is white. But it also comes with a low SES so it is a pretty miserable school.

Contrast to the very diverse small private school he came from, where he was also a racial minority. But everyone obviously was middle class and higher. That was an amazing experience and I wish we could have continued it.

If I could have changed anything, I would have avoided low SES schools like the plague.

Op, listen to this pp.

AKA, "I got mine and to hell with everyone else."

Serious question, what good is my child's presence in a failing school? Yes, I contribute to PTSA and volunteer, but one person doesn't make a difference. 25 people don't make difference. And that's about the size of the active PTSA members, who are all white and Asian/South Asian. In a predominately Latino and Black school.

The causes of the problems are much bigger than the school community. They are things the schools cannot fix.

This sounds similar to the school I work at. It is “only” about 60% FARMS but the PTA is only 5 members strong- and 4/5 white (even though the school is less than 10% white). They tried to support the community and were amazing considering the lack of support, but for things to truly change, whole neighborhoods would need to be added to the school. Based on my experience teaching at this school, I agree that a school with under 50% FARMS is more desirable.

*Also, I’ve worked at this school for 10+ years and I used to love it and encourage friends to send kids to focus schools (schools just under Title 1), but no longer. The behaviors are out of control and there’s not enough staff to meet the high needs of our students.

OP, please tell us what you means "diverse"

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Anonymous wrote:But this school has less than 5% white, it must be "diverse"

No, that is not how it works.

Anonymous wrote:But this school has less than 5% white, it must be "diverse"

No, that is not how it works.

But this school has less than 5% white, it must be "diverse"

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Anonymous wrote:https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02777.pdf

Is this school diverse?

81.7% Hispanic

High FARMS

This is one of the neighborhoods Latinos are ditching for whiter areas.

No, the student population of Weller Road ES is not diverse.

Your comment is a variation of "it's so crowded, nobody goes there."