Step-daughter got rejected from Brown ED. She was pretty crushed, especially as the clear valedictorian and frontrunner of her small private since kindergarten (ran out of math classes to take at school since Calc BC in 10th grade, dual-enrolled at local college for math thereafter). She's also just a brilliant human being in general (and I say this as a child developmental psychologist with teenage children of my own), gifted in writing, speech and debate, acting, and languages. I was a little worried for her application because she didn't have as many activities related to school. She felt discouraged from running for student council after losing an election early in high school and instead focused most of her energy in a few outside activities: rowing, Italian and Chinese self-study, and Shakespeare acting. She didn't exactly verbally broadcast her ED application but proudly and confidently wore Brown apparel, so it was common knowledge that she was applying. She took a couple days off of school after the rejection, not that other students applied but were celebrating their own ED admissions. Turns out that nobody really cared about her rejection in a mean spirited way but some did express their own disappointment for her (and what it might mean for their applications). She ended up at a WASP LAC and is happily double-majoring and studying abroad.

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Anonymous wrote:If so, to what school and what would you do differently?

Please don’t answer if your child’s ED was a success or ED wasn’t used.

I let DC use ED1 and ED2 for two schools that were very, VERY long shots for him. I am not sorry. He was enthused about those schools, but I didn't think they were good matches. I am much happier with the schools he got into RD and with the school that he picked. I think the school that he ultimately picked is kind of perfect for him.

Same. DC didn't get in ED1 or ED2 (high reaches). Decided recently to accept a waitlist spot at a school that will be perfect (but parents couldn't persuade DC to ED there). In the end, it all works out...

My niece applied ED1 to Davidson and ED2 to Colorado College and both didn't work out. She was a strong student academically (NMS Commended) but was pretty reserved and didn't have a lot of extracurricular involvement beside a one-season sport and babysitting. I didn't weigh in, of course, other to offer encouragement, but the results didn't surprise me a ton since SLACs tend to favor students with a history of extracurricular involvement at the school and in the community. Her parents are European immigrants and didn't understand the US system that well, other than also pushing their firstborn to apply to Ivies (they weren't familiar with LACs). She ended up at Case Western thru RD.

Anonymous wrote:If so, to what school and what would you do differently?

Please don’t answer if your child’s ED was a success or ED wasn’t used.

I let DC use ED1 and ED2 for two schools that were very, VERY long shots for him. I am not sorry. He was enthused about those schools, but I didn't think they were good matches. I am much happier with the schools he got into RD and with the school that he picked. I think the school that he ultimately picked is kind of perfect for him.

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Anonymous wrote:"The Ivies do not offer merit scholarships of any kind. This also applies to athletic awards, making Yale and its peers the only eight of the 350 total Division I schools to not offer financial awards to exceptional student athletes."

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2022/12/08/following-antitrust-expiration-merit-and-athletic-scholarships-become-an-option-for-the-ivy-league/

Maybe from an outside source enthusiastic about Yale but probably not directly from the university itself.

Yale does offer a little over 100 spots in their Hahn Scholars and YES Scholar programs though. Harvard and Princeton don’t have anything of the sort.

Which fund travel, research, and experiences, so not a true tuition scholarship. Harvard and Princeton also offer undergraduate research fellowships that provide funding for students, but not direct tuition support.

+1 the PP posted something similar on another thread with a list of scholar programs claiming they are scholarships. Apples and oranges. Just because the word “scholar” is used to describe the program doesn’t make it a scholarship that is commonly understood as money towards tuition and occasionally room and board.

Anyone reading this, google the scholar programs by name and you will see that the programs do not cover tuition. I was a scholar at Penn and it covered research and travel expenses. I had a friend that received a full scholarship from a private organization to attend but not from Penn directly.

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Anonymous wrote:"The Ivies do not offer merit scholarships of any kind. This also applies to athletic awards, making Yale and its peers the only eight of the 350 total Division I schools to not offer financial awards to exceptional student athletes."

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2022/12/08/following-antitrust-expiration-merit-and-athletic-scholarships-become-an-option-for-the-ivy-league/

Maybe from an outside source enthusiastic about Yale but probably not directly from the university itself.

Yale does offer a little over 100 spots in their Hahn Scholars and YES Scholar programs though. Harvard and Princeton don’t have anything of the sort.

Which fund travel, research, and experiences, so not a true tuition scholarship. Harvard and Princeton also offer undergraduate research fellowships that provide funding for students, but not direct tuition support.

Anonymous wrote:"The Ivies do not offer merit scholarships of any kind. This also applies to athletic awards, making Yale and its peers the only eight of the 350 total Division I schools to not offer financial awards to exceptional student athletes."

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2022/12/08/following-antitrust-expiration-merit-and-athletic-scholarships-become-an-option-for-the-ivy-league/

Maybe from an outside source enthusiastic about Yale but probably not directly from the university itself.

Yale does offer a little over 100 spots in their Hahn Scholars and YES Scholar programs though. Harvard and Princeton don’t have anything of the sort.

"The Ivies do not offer merit scholarships of any kind. This also applies to athletic awards, making Yale and its peers the only eight of the 350 total Division I schools to not offer financial awards to exceptional student athletes."

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2022/12/08/following-antitrust-expiration-merit-and-athletic-scholarships-become-an-option-for-the-ivy-league/

Maybe from an outside source enthusiastic about Yale but probably not directly from the university itself.

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Anonymous wrote:It was just another way for a sponsor to give him money, and take a tax deduction. Nathan could have gone to any university.

No, the scholarship was specific to Yale. The school really wanted him to attend and offered daily private ice time for him on their campus rink.

Really? Can you cite? A google of "Nathan Chen Yale Scholarship" turned up a lot of results but all I found was this:

– Michael Weiss Foundation Scholarship Recipient (2009-2015)
– Ron and Gayle Hershberger Award (2012)
– Athlete Alumni Ambassador Award (2011)
– Cecilia Colledge Memorial Fund Award (2010 & 2011)
– U.S. Figure Skating Memorial Fund Recipient (2018 – 2012)

None of those are Yale-related awards that I could see.

I think you might be mistaken.

It’s a private scholarship, and he has also received other scholarships/awards in the past 8 years. The figure skating world is quite small and not all info is on Google. You don’t have to believe it, but he did receive a full scholarship to Yale.

It also sounds like this private scholarship was specifically for Nathan Chen. It’s not like any Yale student could apply for this scholarship.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was just another way for a sponsor to give him money, and take a tax deduction. Nathan could have gone to any university.

No, the scholarship was specific to Yale. The school really wanted him to attend and offered daily private ice time for him on their campus rink.

Really? Can you cite? A google of "Nathan Chen Yale Scholarship" turned up a lot of results but all I found was this:

– Michael Weiss Foundation Scholarship Recipient (2009-2015)
– Ron and Gayle Hershberger Award (2012)
– Athlete Alumni Ambassador Award (2011)
– Cecilia Colledge Memorial Fund Award (2010 & 2011)
– U.S. Figure Skating Memorial Fund Recipient (2018 – 2012)

None of those are Yale-related awards that I could see.

I think you might be mistaken.

It’s a private scholarship, and he has also received other scholarships/awards in the past 8 years. The figure skating world is quite small and not all info is on Google. You don’t have to believe it, but he did receive a full scholarship to Yale.

Your quote was "No, the scholarship was specific to Yale". But there is no evidence of that, and evidence to the contrary was shown. Even on a yale page: https://schwarzman.yale.edu/artist/nathan-chen-24-0

He did not receive a scholarship to Yale from Yale. Yale only offers need based aid.

You have to cite claims that go against evidence with other evidence, or they can be easily dismissed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was just another way for a sponsor to give him money, and take a tax deduction. Nathan could have gone to any university.

No, the scholarship was specific to Yale. The school really wanted him to attend and offered daily private ice time for him on their campus rink.

Really? Can you cite? A google of "Nathan Chen Yale Scholarship" turned up a lot of results but all I found was this:

– Michael Weiss Foundation Scholarship Recipient (2009-2015)
– Ron and Gayle Hershberger Award (2012)
– Athlete Alumni Ambassador Award (2011)
– Cecilia Colledge Memorial Fund Award (2010 & 2011)
– U.S. Figure Skating Memorial Fund Recipient (2018 – 2012)

None of those are Yale-related awards that I could see.

I think you might be mistaken.

It’s a private scholarship, and he has also received other scholarships/awards in the past 8 years. The figure skating world is quite small and not all info is on Google. You don’t have to believe it, but he did receive a full scholarship to Yale.

NP. But, sounds like it wasn't from Yale. That is the point PPs are making. Ivies themselves don't offer merit scholarships. Perhaps some alum funded something, but it doesn't seem it was the university.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was just another way for a sponsor to give him money, and take a tax deduction. Nathan could have gone to any university.

No, the scholarship was specific to Yale. The school really wanted him to attend and offered daily private ice time for him on their campus rink.

Really? Can you cite? A google of "Nathan Chen Yale Scholarship" turned up a lot of results but all I found was this:

– Michael Weiss Foundation Scholarship Recipient (2009-2015)
– Ron and Gayle Hershberger Award (2012)
– Athlete Alumni Ambassador Award (2011)
– Cecilia Colledge Memorial Fund Award (2010 & 2011)
– U.S. Figure Skating Memorial Fund Recipient (2018 – 2012)

None of those are Yale-related awards that I could see.

I think you might be mistaken.

It’s a private scholarship, and he has also received other scholarships/awards in the past 8 years. The figure skating world is quite small and not all info is on Google. You don’t have to believe it, but he did receive a full scholarship to Yale.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was just another way for a sponsor to give him money, and take a tax deduction. Nathan could have gone to any university.

No, the scholarship was specific to Yale. The school really wanted him to attend and offered daily private ice time for him on their campus rink.

Really? Can you cite? A google of "Nathan Chen Yale Scholarship" turned up a lot of results but all I found was this:

– Michael Weiss Foundation Scholarship Recipient (2009-2015)
– Ron and Gayle Hershberger Award (2012)
– Athlete Alumni Ambassador Award (2011)
– Cecilia Colledge Memorial Fund Award (2010 & 2011)
– U.S. Figure Skating Memorial Fund Recipient (2018 – 2012)

None of those are Yale-related awards that I could see.

I think you might be mistaken.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was just another way for a sponsor to give him money, and take a tax deduction. Nathan could have gone to any university.

No, the scholarship was specific to Yale. The school really wanted him to attend and offered daily private ice time for him on their campus rink.

+1 people think the ivys don't do scholarships but they have many programs and catered offers to people they want while keeping it lowkey. I think the only ivies that really don't do anything extra to convince students to attend are Harvard and Princeton.

Anonymous wrote:It was just another way for a sponsor to give him money, and take a tax deduction. Nathan could have gone to any university.

No, the scholarship was specific to Yale. The school really wanted him to attend and offered daily private ice time for him on their campus rink.