Anonymous wrote:It must be some niche joke sport no self respecting athlete quits immediately

Not true. Certainly can happen in the case of a coaching change that occurs too late to switch schools in the current recruiting period. Also, a significant change in one's circumstances or one's family circumstances can affect any athlete.

Anonymous wrote:It must be some niche joke sport no self respecting athlete quits immediately

Ok. Give up a stem degree for sports. That is so genius and self respecting.

It must be some niche joke sport no self respecting athlete quits immediately

Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS did his homework by reaching out to former athletes on the team who graduated in the past eight years quite a few of them did major in STEM prior to arriving on campus but switched to easier majors because STEM didn’t work with practice and game schedule. Many of them expressed regrets about switching to easier majors. They advised DS to quit the team immediately if it interferes with academics. The athletic department and the coach essentially told them half truth.

Btw, please stop guessing about the sport because it is not relevant to the discussion.

That sounds like good advice. Why let a sport interfere with a career choice? The priority should be your education and career path.

OP here. DS did his homework by reaching out to former athletes on the team who graduated in the past eight years quite a few of them did major in STEM prior to arriving on campus but switched to easier majors because STEM didn’t work with practice and game schedule. Many of them expressed regrets about switching to easier majors. They advised DS to quit the team immediately if it interferes with academics. The athletic department and the coach essentially told them half truth.

Btw, please stop guessing about the sport because it is not relevant to the discussion.

Gymnastics?

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Anonymous wrote:Golf?

Yep 6-7 players on team gotta be it

I’m guessing cross country. Regardless of sport, have your kid try balancing both. If it’s too much, academics come first. But he shouldn’t quit the team before he even starts.

One of the very top XC/TF high school girls in the country did that a few years ago. Got admission to an Ivy & never ran a step again.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. If running fast gets a student access to an ivy, it is what is is. The student did not make that system and cannot change it. They are stupid not to play the game when that is everyone has to do

By senior years there will be considerable attrition on all college sports teams. It isn’t an unusual situation.

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Yep 6-7 players on team gotta be it

I’m guessing cross country. Regardless of sport, have your kid try balancing both. If it’s too much, academics come first. But he shouldn’t quit the team before he even starts.

One of the very top XC/TF high school girls in the country did that a few years ago. Got admission to an Ivy & never ran a step again.

Golfers are dumb?

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Anonymous wrote:Academics come first. No question.

However, the information you now have was available before. Your child has essentially taken away another child’s dream and scholarship, maybe someone who actually needs the money. Now you’re lighting that money on fire and keeping the dream prize, which is admission to the school. You should at least discuss the immorality of this choice and encourage your child to find a way in the future to pay it forward.

Give me a break...OP has repeatedly asked the coach if majoring is STEM will work...let's face it, coach is telling them what they want to hear because they want the recruit. Once the kid is at school, that's when they will increasingly encourage the kid to switch majors because the coach doesn't give a s**t about their major.

So, now because OP has done their DD and realized the coach, while technically isn't lying to them...for all intents and purposes is lying to them...it's OP's problem? The coach is 100% playing the game that they believe the kid cares more about their sport than their degree...so no way they quit the team to pursue their STEM degree.

The last 12 words of your post are confusing to me. Could you explain a bit more. Thanks.

The coach really wants their kid and is lying by omission. He is saying that "sure you can be a STEM major"...probably knowing full well they haven't had anyone graduate with a STEM degree in recent history. If the coach was honest, he would say that you can be a STEM major, however, the practice and competition routine is all-consuming so it will be difficult to remain a STEM major...and nobody on the team is able to graduate with one. The coach is further making the bet that deep down so many of these kids care more about playing their sport than their academics...10% of the time the kids find the sport too much and quit, but 90% of the time the kids find the academics too much and switch to an easier major.

If the coach was indifferent and would just take the next kid in line, he would tell you that he thinks it will be difficult/impossible to be an athlete on his team and a STEM-major. Some people find it offensive, but there are plenty of coaches that will not even spend much time trying to recruit a kid that wants to be a STEM major. At least they are honest about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Academics come first. No question.

However, the information you now have was available before. Your child has essentially taken away another child’s dream and scholarship, maybe someone who actually needs the money. Now you’re lighting that money on fire and keeping the dream prize, which is admission to the school. You should at least discuss the immorality of this choice and encourage your child to find a way in the future to pay it forward.

Give me a break...OP has repeatedly asked the coach if majoring is STEM will work...let's face it, coach is telling them what they want to hear because they want the recruit. Once the kid is at school, that's when they will increasingly encourage the kid to switch majors because the coach doesn't give a s**t about their major.

So, now because OP has done their DD and realized the coach, while technically isn't lying to them...for all intents and purposes is lying to them...it's OP's problem? The coach is 100% playing the game that they believe the kid cares more about their sport than their degree...so no way they quit the team to pursue their STEM degree.

The last 12 words of your post are confusing to me. Could you explain a bit more. Thanks.

Anonymous wrote:Academics come first. No question.

However, the information you now have was available before. Your child has essentially taken away another child’s dream and scholarship, maybe someone who actually needs the money. Now you’re lighting that money on fire and keeping the dream prize, which is admission to the school. You should at least discuss the immorality of this choice and encourage your child to find a way in the future to pay it forward.

Give me a break...OP has repeatedly asked the coach if majoring is STEM will work...let's face it, coach is telling them what they want to hear because they want the recruit. Once the kid is at school, that's when they will increasingly encourage the kid to switch majors because the coach doesn't give a s**t about their major.

So, now because OP has done their DD and realized the coach, while technically isn't lying to them...for all intents and purposes is lying to them...it's OP's problem? The coach is 100% playing the game that they believe the kid cares more about their sport than their degree...so no way they quit the team to pursue their STEM degree.

Anonymous wrote:Academics come first. No question.

However, the information you now have was available before. Your child has essentially taken away another child’s dream and scholarship, maybe someone who actually needs the money. Now you’re lighting that money on fire and keeping the dream prize, which is admission to the school. You should at least discuss the immorality of this choice and encourage your child to find a way in the future to pay it forward.

True very arrogant

Academics come first. No question.

However, the information you now have was available before. Your child has essentially taken away another child’s dream and scholarship, maybe someone who actually needs the money. Now you’re lighting that money on fire and keeping the dream prize, which is admission to the school. You should at least discuss the immorality of this choice and encourage your child to find a way in the future to pay it forward.