I'm a bit amused because for all the attention on segregation academies, Northern private schools boomed following the busing desegregation of northern school districts too and/or suburban flights turning urban districts majority black .... so...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm black for what it's worth. If the school works well for my child now, why would I deprive them of the school based on whatever happened in the past?

I get that this calculation might be different for white families (and others) that don't want to condone the transgressions of the past. But certainly don't make any decisions based on what you think black folks "might" think.

Most of us don't care and the ones that might raise a ruckus are almost invariably outliers in view and disposition AMONG black folks.

Speak for yourself. I’m Black and I’m definitely judging you if you currently send your child to a former segregation academy. That is a different level of racism from a formerly segregated school that was founded pre-Brown vs. Board. Like many things, there are levels to this.

An elderly woman that I know was withdrawn from her own school and sent, as a 13 year old, to be a live in personal servant to a student at a private all boys boarding school in Virginia, so that she could help support her family after her father was run out of town by a lynch mob.

I think the fact that that school was founded before Brown doesn't mean that there isn't a horrifying level of racism in its past.

Boys' schools wouldn't allow young girls to be personal servants for their male students. Boys schools also didn't have personal servants for the students living on campus. These schools had school matrons and school staff. Southern boys schools tended to be military academies too.

The closest your story could be true would be a family moving to a school campus because a parent was a housekeeper or groundskeeper and the 13 year old was helping out in the kitchens or scrubbing the floors of the dormitories, both otherwise the schools would have kept the children of black domestic staff rigorously separated from their white students. Last but not least, there was no shortage of more experienced, older black domestic help either. I suspect whoever told you the story was a bit confused or embellished some of the details.

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Anonymous wrote:Things change. None of those people are involved. I wouldn’t think twice but I also would have looked into the school my kids attend far more than you appear to have done. How did you NOT know? I typically research things before entrusting my kids to them and spending tens of thousands.

It's the best-rated school in the area and was highly recommended by the transient crowd we hang around with (which explains why THEY didn't appear to know). Thought we couldn't go wrong.

“Best” by what metrics?

Chill, DCUM-er. This school is in Newport News and has very little local competition. It is known in the area as a good school. No one is trying to step on your DMV school's toes.

Segregation Academy’s were founded between 1956-1976. Several local schools discussed here would fit into the Segregation Academy description. Some still don’t seem to want Blacks and some provide a place where Black students have good experiences. The DMV isn’t excluded.

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Anonymous wrote:Former segregation academy in the south?

I mean, pretty much all private schools are segregation academies at heart. It’s curious to get upset about it after the fact.

A “segregation academy” formed in the 1950s and 1960s with the purpose of keeping Black students out.

That's why they said "at heart".

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Anonymous wrote:So, you are going to blame the current school admin and staff for something that happened 50-100 years ago when they weren't even alive and it was a very different time?

Are you unable to add and subtract?!? 1959 wasn’t 50-100 year ago. It was, clearly and specifically, 64 years ago. Many of the students who attended this particular segregation academy are alive and well…and their grandchildren currently attend the school.

Are you unable to add and subtract?!? 64 falls between 50 and 100.

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Anonymous wrote:Things change. None of those people are involved. I wouldn’t think twice but I also would have looked into the school my kids attend far more than you appear to have done. How did you NOT know? I typically research things before entrusting my kids to them and spending tens of thousands.

It's the best-rated school in the area and was highly recommended by the transient crowd we hang around with (which explains why THEY didn't appear to know). Thought we couldn't go wrong.

“Best” by what metrics?

Graduation and college attendance rates, plus reading scores. They're abysmal in the local public schools (85% 4-year graduation rate and 30% of 3rd graders reading at grade level).

Private schools don’t do reading assessments so you likely don’t know the reading levels. Also, since is a private school with families of privileged, you aren’t really comparing apples to apples. Do you really think sending your kids to a public school with some kids that are economically disadvantaged would somehow not allow them to read at grade level?

Did you not Google the school before you cut them a check?

You're really telling a parent to CHOOSE the district with those numbers?

Yes. Lots of kids go to the “district with those numbers.” Is your kid going to put on a college app that they were too good and too special to go school with THOSE KIDS, so they had “no choice” to attend a segregation academy instead?

[says the keyboard warrior typing from her home in the best pyramid in Bethesda]

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Anonymous wrote:Things change. None of those people are involved. I wouldn’t think twice but I also would have looked into the school my kids attend far more than you appear to have done. How did you NOT know? I typically research things before entrusting my kids to them and spending tens of thousands.

It's the best-rated school in the area and was highly recommended by the transient crowd we hang around with (which explains why THEY didn't appear to know). Thought we couldn't go wrong.

“Best” by what metrics?

Chill, DCUM-er. This school is in Newport News and has very little local competition. It is known in the area as a good school. No one is trying to step on your DMV school's toes.

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Anonymous wrote:Things change. None of those people are involved. I wouldn’t think twice but I also would have looked into the school my kids attend far more than you appear to have done. How did you NOT know? I typically research things before entrusting my kids to them and spending tens of thousands.

Yeah, it’s hard to miss. Here’s the Wikipedia page for Hampton Roads Academy in Newport News: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_Roads_Academy

“The school was founded in 1959, in the context of massive resistance, as a segregation academy.”[3]

“Hampton Roads Academy was founded in 1959 as a segregation academy with a student body of sixty all white students in grades seven through eleven.[3] The school's founder, Hampton physician Russell von Lehn Buxton, who became the first chairman of the Board of Trustees, explained that the school was established to avoid the "limitations and constraints imposed on the public school system."[4]

I know kids who go to HRA (and NSA) and had no idea they were both former segregation schools!

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I know you're trolling because you find this out when doing research into schools when applying to them. And people who get upset enough at a past history that bothers them aren't the kind of people who accidentally enroll their children into a former segregation academy. Try better next time.

Get over yourself. I grew up in the Midwest and had no idea this was a thing. And yeah, the only research I did was, "Wow, highly ranked school that was open during covid and will take my children transferring mid-year because of a military PCS? Sign me up."

No excuse.

Pretty much any private school founded before the 1960s was explicitly racist and also quite often discriminated against Jews or even Catholics.

Moaning about a former segregation academy in a southern state while shrugging at the racist past of most DC privates? Ok....

What’s your actual goal Pp?
And if you achieve it will you shut up or ask for more?

They are only speaking truth. Many of them are still racist.

There just seemed to be a higher demand for private school after that Supreme Court’s case that tried to force integration. All the white supremacists couldn’t send their kids to the existing schools that were not allowing Blacks in.

Now I’m curious too, what’s your actual goal here?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm black for what it's worth. If the school works well for my child now, why would I deprive them of the school based on whatever happened in the past?

I get that this calculation might be different for white families (and others) that don't want to condone the transgressions of the past. But certainly don't make any decisions based on what you think black folks "might" think.

Most of us don't care and the ones that might raise a ruckus are almost invariably outliers in view and disposition AMONG black folks.

Speak for yourself. I’m Black and I’m definitely judging you if you currently send your child to a former segregation academy. That is a different level of racism from a formerly segregated school that was founded pre-Brown vs. Board. Like many things, there are levels to this.

Well, your kids will be in a crappy public school and subsequently a crappy college (if they make it), so your opinion doesn't really matter, does it? We'll never cross paths.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I know you're trolling because you find this out when doing research into schools when applying to them. And people who get upset enough at a past history that bothers them aren't the kind of people who accidentally enroll their children into a former segregation academy. Try better next time.

Get over yourself. I grew up in the Midwest and had no idea this was a thing. And yeah, the only research I did was, "Wow, highly ranked school that was open during covid and will take my children transferring mid-year because of a military PCS? Sign me up."

No excuse.

Pretty much any private school founded before the 1960s was explicitly racist and also quite often discriminated against Jews or even Catholics.

Moaning about a former segregation academy in a southern state while shrugging at the racist past of most DC privates? Ok....

What’s your actual goal Pp?
And if you achieve it will you shut up or ask for more?

They are only speaking truth. Many of them are still racist.

There just seemed to be a higher demand for private school after that Supreme Court’s case that tried to force integration. All the white supremacists couldn’t send their kids to the existing schools that were not allowing Blacks in.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I know you're trolling because you find this out when doing research into schools when applying to them. And people who get upset enough at a past history that bothers them aren't the kind of people who accidentally enroll their children into a former segregation academy. Try better next time.

Get over yourself. I grew up in the Midwest and had no idea this was a thing. And yeah, the only research I did was, "Wow, highly ranked school that was open during covid and will take my children transferring mid-year because of a military PCS? Sign me up."

No excuse.

Pretty much any private school founded before the 1960s was explicitly racist and also quite often discriminated against Jews or even Catholics.

Moaning about a former segregation academy in a southern state while shrugging at the racist past of most DC privates? Ok....

What’s your actual goal Pp?
And if you achieve it will you shut up or ask for more?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm black for what it's worth. If the school works well for my child now, why would I deprive them of the school based on whatever happened in the past?

I get that this calculation might be different for white families (and others) that don't want to condone the transgressions of the past. But certainly don't make any decisions based on what you think black folks "might" think.

Most of us don't care and the ones that might raise a ruckus are almost invariably outliers in view and disposition AMONG black folks.

Speak for yourself. I’m Black and I’m definitely judging you if you currently send your child to a former segregation academy. That is a different level of racism from a formerly segregated school that was founded pre-Brown vs. Board. Like many things, there are levels to this.

An elderly woman that I know was withdrawn from her own school and sent, as a 13 year old, to be a live in personal servant to a student at a private all boys boarding school in Virginia, so that she could help support her family after her father was run out of town by a lynch mob.

I think the fact that that school was founded before Brown doesn't mean that there isn't a horrifying level of racism in its past.

Anonymous wrote:If the local public is majority black and the local private is majority white I would have a problem with that. It’s self segregation. There are towns in the US where this is the case.
Assuming your school is diverse OP and you otherwise like it, I wouldn’t pull your kids out.

As an example, Washington, DC would be a city where the private schools are much whiter than the public school.

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Anonymous wrote:Former segregation academy in the south?

I mean, pretty much all private schools are segregation academies at heart. It’s curious to get upset about it after the fact.

A “segregation academy” formed in the 1950s and 1960s with the purpose of keeping Black students out.

The demand for private schools went up because the whites supremacists didn’t want their kids mixing with Blacks and there was no longer space at these privates that were there prior to the 1950’s. They may as well be segregation academies too too since they weren’t letting many Blacks in either. Many of them are still segregation academies.

“They may as well be segregation academies too too since they weren’t letting many Blacks in either.”

Nope. Despite the lie you’re trying to tell yourself and others, segregation academies are an evil entity unto itself.

Stop trying to make excuses for these despicable institutions that were founded EXPRESSLY to exclude Black people.