Anonymous
09/24/2023 22:11
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
This is the dumbest post and such narrow minded thinking l. The world needs people with all kinds of skills and talents. Engineers may have built the iPhone but would it have been so wildly successful without the designers who made it appealing and the marketing teams who sold it to the public? Vaccine researchers may develop a vaccine but without people with the know how to manufacture it at scale and people who can communicate its safety and efficacy and lawyers to see it through the regulatory process, it won’t get made or used. Surely engineers wear clothing someone who went to fashion school designed and listen to music and read books and watch tv shows created by musicians and artists and writers. They send their kids to schools to be taught by education majors, and when their kids are showing signs of ADHD send them to neuropsych testing run by people who were probably psychology undergrads. They dine at restaurants run by culinary school grads and travel to places they only know about because they read about them blogs or articles written by English majors. They go hiking on trails kept safe by forest rangers who were environmental studies or forestry majors and their kids grandkids may have a shot at living on a planet fit for human habitation because of polysci and French double majors who work on global treaties to protect the environment.
If you value money above all else, do what you do. But to mock those who choose lower paid careers who produce things you use and benefit from all the time is really obnoxious.
If you value money above all else, do what you do. But to mock those who choose lower paid careers who produce things you use and benefit from all the time is really obnoxious.
Anonymous
09/24/2023 21:42
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.
Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.
The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.
Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.
Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:
Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education
The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.
Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html
These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250
Exactly. All these calls for STEM, STEM, STEM!!!!!! And then, lawyers and “comtractors” obviously making sooooo much more money. Engineering is difficult! If you’re smart it’s a good option and the baseline ceiling is much higher. Otherwise get a law degree, MBA, or whatever contractors come from. Just make sure the degree has a good reputation.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 16:28
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.
Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.
The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.
Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.
Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:
Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education
The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.
Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html
These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250
This may be true but think of the compounding effect of all those early years of making $100k+, if you do your savings right. Total assets would probably be comparable or more to the English major who has finally outpaced them many years later.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 16:04
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:I mean, it depends on the goal and the kid. If you are a LMC or less privileged college student without tons of connections at a non-top-tier school and you want career security.... engineering is almost surely your best bet if you have enough math skills to get the degree.
You can turn that into whatever you want depending on your goals. If you have the personality for it, you can do sales or management and your income can have the higher trajectory. If you just want a stable life, you can stay on a more traditional tech path and you may top out around $200k or something. Not shabby, but yeah, those successful in business/capitalism can easily beat you on money.
Agree.
Ppl who post here generally grew up lower middle class or very middle class and haven’t quite figured out how to climb up effectively.
As someone who grew up lower middle class and now has a household income of at least $5 million a year and a Net worth above $50 million, I am not at all focused on this list for my senior.
If you are focused on this list, you are barking up the wrong tree. And if you do t see it, you need to expose yourself to different things.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 16:03
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.
Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.
The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.
Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.
Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:
Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education
The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.
Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html
These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250
But only a few English majors will reach that level of success. Engineering is more of a sure thing, but not everyone can do it. It’s also a field biased towards males (no surprise).
you're wrong and misinformed. I know a woman who is CEO of a nonprofit. She is an english and women's studies major, with a salary of at least $400,000. I'm sure you are also someone who thinks that if you work in industries such as nonprofit, you are only going to make 60K as a CEO. People who are generally clueless should keep their opinions to themselves.
+100.
She had a connection for sure - in a vertical position.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 16:01
Subject: Re:These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
What about at 10 years post grad?
Anonymous
09/22/2023 15:57
Subject: Re:These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same after 10+ years
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/20/highest-paying-college-majors.html
The college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers
Top 10 majors by median salary for graduates who are 35-45 years old
The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers.
Chemical engineering $120K
Computer engineering $114K
Aerospace engineering $112K
Electrical engineering $109K
Computer science $105K
Mechanical engineering $105K
Miscellaneous physical sciences $104K
Industrial engineering $100K
Miscellaneous engineering $100K
Civil engineering $100K
And remember, folks, this is a list of undergrad degrees only. So, no need to post, "But I was an English major, and now I'm a lawyer earning 5x that much".
Actually 25x to 50x, but point taken.
Well, to move up in engineering beyond a technical role you've usually got to get a MEM or MBA.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 15:29
Subject: Re:These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Same after 10+ years
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/20/highest-paying-college-majors.html
The college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers
Top 10 majors by median salary for graduates who are 35-45 years old
The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers.
Chemical engineering $120K
Computer engineering $114K
Aerospace engineering $112K
Electrical engineering $109K
Computer science $105K
Mechanical engineering $105K
Miscellaneous physical sciences $104K
Industrial engineering $100K
Miscellaneous engineering $100K
Civil engineering $100K
And remember, folks, this is a list of undergrad degrees only. So, no need to post, "But I was an English major, and now I'm a lawyer earning 5x that much".
Actually 25x to 50x, but point taken.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 13:05
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.
Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.
The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.
Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.
Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:
Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education
The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.
Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html
These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250
But only a few English majors will reach that level of success. Engineering is more of a sure thing, but not everyone can do it. It’s also a field biased towards males (no surprise).
you're wrong and misinformed. I know a woman who is CEO of a nonprofit. She is an english and women's studies major, with a salary of at least $400,000. I'm sure you are also someone who thinks that if you work in industries such as nonprofit, you are only going to make 60K as a CEO. People who are generally clueless should keep their opinions to themselves.
+100.
neither of you two PPs understand what statistics mean. You must've been an English major.
-BBA grad
Anonymous
09/22/2023 13:03
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.
Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.
The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.
Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.
Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:
Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education
The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.
Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html
These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250
But only a few English majors will reach that level of success. Engineering is more of a sure thing, but not everyone can do it. It’s also a field biased towards males (no surprise).
you're wrong and misinformed. I know a woman who is CEO of a nonprofit. She is an english and women's studies major, with a salary of at least $400,000. I'm sure you are also someone who thinks that if you work in industries such as nonprofit, you are only going to make 60K as a CEO. People who are generally clueless should keep their opinions to themselves.
+100.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 12:58
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.
Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.
The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.
Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.
Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:
Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education
The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.
Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html
Did you just copy and paste this entire post?
Anonymous
09/22/2023 12:46
Subject: Re:These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Many find it a tedious field with little upward projection and not much intellectual challenge after you know what you're doing
The government keeps wanting new and improved warplanes so I've never gotten bored.
Very few engineers work for the DOD or adjacent where there are endless budgets for endless improvements. Many work on optimizing tiny aspects of tiny problems that they figured out long ago, or spec-ing out things they know will never be put into production.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 12:37
Subject: These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
I mean, it depends on the goal and the kid. If you are a LMC or less privileged college student without tons of connections at a non-top-tier school and you want career security.... engineering is almost surely your best bet if you have enough math skills to get the degree.
You can turn that into whatever you want depending on your goals. If you have the personality for it, you can do sales or management and your income can have the higher trajectory. If you just want a stable life, you can stay on a more traditional tech path and you may top out around $200k or something. Not shabby, but yeah, those successful in business/capitalism can easily beat you on money.
You can turn that into whatever you want depending on your goals. If you have the personality for it, you can do sales or management and your income can have the higher trajectory. If you just want a stable life, you can stay on a more traditional tech path and you may top out around $200k or something. Not shabby, but yeah, those successful in business/capitalism can easily beat you on money.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 10:49
Subject: Re:These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Many find it a tedious field with little upward projection and not much intellectual challenge after you know what you're doing
The government keeps wanting new and improved warplanes so I've never gotten bored.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 10:44
Subject: Re:These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People in my extended family have tended to be good at math and attracted to engineering. But every engineer but one in my family eventually got sick of it and quit to do something else. Sometimes they went on to higher paying things, sometimes they went to lower paying things. The one who didn't quit feels stuck but doesn't know what else to do. Many find it a tedious field with little upward projection and not much intellectual challenge after you know what you're doing--and that can be a real bummer for someone who is smart. It's great the first few years--but many didn't even last ten.
Sounds like any other jobs.
Engineers usually move up to project manager, tech lead, chief engineer, architect, director, VP, etc. management positions
Yeah, those engineers who are good with people and like to manage others can do that. There's a lot of technical folks who have no such skills/desires and there's a limited path upward without them. Even chief engineers need to manage. Tech lead isn't quite as bad--but it's capped out in most places and there's still some management. I'm just saying that for a field that pays high and attracts bright people it's got a shelf life unless you've got broader skills. Whereas if you are a humanities or social science grad and take a lower-paying job in HR or wherever and develop your skills there, you can move up higher in admin and they are really drawing a similar set of skills and you can easily pivot to positions that draw on similar managerial soft skills. Engineering is a very pointy set of valuable skills and it's hard to move up just by being technically good--you can keep your job, you are valuable but it gets tedious. At least that's the experience of many of the people in my family and others they know.