Anonymous
05/09/2023 09:08
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
The bottom line is, this guy identified with white supremacy; he was discharged from the US Military with mental issues, and because of very lax to non-existent Texas gun laws, he was able to get guns and kill people.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 09:03
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people think Hispanic people aren’t white? Some are, some aren’t.
None of them are WASPs. Also they are not regarded as white by WASPs.
They think of themselves as white but are not generally thought of as white by non-hispanic white people.
They are white. They are white with a Spanish surname. Spaniards are European white. Hispanic is a race the USA made up in the 1950’s when so many Puerto Ricans were leaving the island for NY. The census had to find a way to distinguish them. Ted Cruz is an all white man whose Italian/Spaniard father was born in Cuba.
So they are brown people when it’s convenient for the left, and white people when it’s convenient to the left.
If they hate Blacks and Jews and women and gays and anything woke, your guys think they are white enough.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 08:50
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Let me be literal here.
This Mexican (Mexican american?) guy shoots up the mall in Allen Texas. He kills what, 8 or 9 people- seems like many were white.
So we don’t know if shooter thinks of himself as white. Victims are white in large part.
Washington post says he’s a white supremacist?
Is that in the khendi sense like you’re a racist if you aren’t an anti-racist?
Otherwise, I just don’t get it.
Why would a white supremacist kill white people?
Anonymous
05/09/2023 06:21
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
I think the point is that what was broadly true in the south was not universal then or today.
But they are trying their damnedest right now to make it true. And if people aren't seeing that, then they are being incredibly ignorant of what is happening. Trump made this all ok.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 06:19
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
I think the point is that what was broadly true in the south was not universal then or today.
In your white fantasies. It’s real in Mississippi and Alabama and Florida and Texas and Tennessee and a lot more states. Those state legislatures would pass segregation tomorrow if they could get away with it.
You are incredibly uninformed if you think the TX state legislature could pass segregation today. I'm not sure if you heard about the Latino and black populations here but Texas has some of the most diverse cities in the US. And not the economic segregation diversity of DC, but various racial groups actually living and working together.
DP, you are being ignorant. Where there are racists in control, the racists would pass the legilsation if they could get away with it. Shooting like this are essentially a civil war, just without armies like the union and confederacy. The racists are at war in the USA right now.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 05:22
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:This is an excuse/rationalization invented by the media. The DNC narrative isn't flying. Might as well try something else.
Did they invent this guys social media accounts?
Anonymous
05/08/2023 18:33
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
I’m Latina and racism is quite prevalent in Latin America. Not necessarily KKK overt racism. But there’s definitely discrimination based on skin color. And even amongst Latinos, some have a hierarchy. I’ve talked to South Americans who feel offended about being lumped with Central Americans for instance. There’s very much a “well but we are not like them.” Im not sure this is different than what other Europeans experienced—-it seems like the last group in is always scapegoated. And it’s all ridiculous if you are paying attention and sane. Like sorry Cubans and Mexicans, the dudes in the pointy hats or AKs with all the hate rhetoric won’t be able to tell you apart when the poop hits the fan. I’m afraid it’s going to get worse. And I don’t think it’s just a white supremacist problem, it’s an angry men+access to guns problem.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 18:14
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:It was interesting: we lived near a guy (in the military, no less) who flew a large confederate flag and then had all his brown Hispanic buddies from the military come over the party. It was the weirdest thing I had ever seen, as they all apparently thought they were white, but no white person in the Klan would have thought they were white.
Some of these folks are going to get a real surprise one day.
White supremacy is like that, though. That's why Richard Spencer parties with Tila Tequila and the head of Proud Boys isn't white.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 17:30
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
I think the point is that what was broadly true in the south was not universal then or today.
In your white fantasies. It’s real in Mississippi and Alabama and Florida and Texas and Tennessee and a lot more states. Those state legislatures would pass segregation tomorrow if they could get away with it.
You are incredibly uninformed if you think the TX state legislature could pass segregation today. I'm not sure if you heard about the Latino and black populations here but Texas has some of the most diverse cities in the US. And not the economic segregation diversity of DC, but various racial groups actually living and working together.
Texas big cities aren’t the problem but they don’t control the state government. The Governor and legislature pander to the reactionaries in the suburbs and small cities and rural areas. Abbott is to the right of George Wallace.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 17:09
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
I think the point is that what was broadly true in the south was not universal then or today.
In your white fantasies. It’s real in Mississippi and Alabama and Florida and Texas and Tennessee and a lot more states. Those state legislatures would pass segregation tomorrow if they could get away with it.
You are incredibly uninformed if you think the TX state legislature could pass segregation today. I'm not sure if you heard about the Latino and black populations here but Texas has some of the most diverse cities in the US. And not the economic segregation diversity of DC, but various racial groups actually living and working together.[/quote]
Spoken like a white well off texan
Anonymous
05/08/2023 17:01
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
I think the point is that what was broadly true in the south was not universal then or today.
In your white fantasies. It’s real in Mississippi and Alabama and Florida and Texas and Tennessee and a lot more states. Those state legislatures would pass segregation tomorrow if they could get away with it.
You are incredibly uninformed if you think the TX state legislature could pass segregation today. I'm not sure if you heard about the Latino and black populations here but Texas has some of the most diverse cities in the US. And not the economic segregation diversity of DC, but various racial groups actually living and working together.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 16:47
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people think Hispanic people aren’t white? Some are, some aren’t.
None of them are WASPs. Also they are not regarded as white by WASPs.
They think of themselves as white but are not generally thought of as white by non-hispanic white people.
They are white. They are white with a Spanish surname. Spaniards are European white. Hispanic is a race the USA made up in the 1950’s when so many Puerto Ricans were leaving the island for NY. The census had to find a way to distinguish them. Ted Cruz is an all white man whose Italian/Spaniard father was born in Cuba.
Spaniards aren’t White in the sense of long history.
Iberia was under Islamic rule for centuries whereas carolingian europe wasn’t.
So? Do you consider Ethiopians white?
No
Anonymous
05/08/2023 16:45
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me be literal here.
This Mexican (Mexican american?) guy shoots up the mall in Allen Texas. He kills what, 8 or 9 people- seems like many were white.
So we don’t know if shooter thinks of himself as white. Victims are white in large part.
Washington post says he’s a white supremacist?
Is that in the khendi sense like you’re a racist if you aren’t an anti-racist?
Otherwise, I just don’t get it.
Yep, total mystery whether this guy is a white supremacist.
Notorious right winger Nick Fuentes is also of Mexican descent.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 16:45
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people think Hispanic people aren’t white? Some are, some aren’t.
None of them are WASPs. Also they are not regarded as white by WASPs.
They think of themselves as white but are not generally thought of as white by non-hispanic white people.
They are white. They are white with a Spanish surname. Spaniards are European white. Hispanic is a race the USA made up in the 1950’s when so many Puerto Ricans were leaving the island for NY. The census had to find a way to distinguish them. Ted Cruz is an all white man whose Italian/Spaniard father was born in Cuba.
Spaniards aren’t White in the sense of long history.
Iberia was under Islamic rule for centuries whereas carolingian europe wasn’t.
So? Do you consider Ethiopians white?
Anonymous
05/08/2023 16:42
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is it hard to understand? Do you know anything about the history of Latin America? The US did not have a monopoly on slavery or racial hatred or discriminatory racial caste systems. Violence by angry delusion men is not new here or there.
Seriously. The Spanish Empire did a lot of horrific stuff and was worse than the British Empire.
Neither empire was benevolent and you're ignorant if you think the British Empire was less bad. History shows no empire is ever benevolent. But frankly told, I would never want to be at the tender mercies of a Chinese empire. Would you?
No, I wouldn't either. And duh an imperialistic empire is never benevolent. But if I had to choose between the Spanish and British ones then the British one is an easy choice.
As an Indian American, if india was colonized by Spain, it would be 100x worse off.
No colonization would be the best but if one was to be colonized, British colonization is factually much better than Spanish colonization