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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z lower level IT people have 2-3 jobs. My coworker said hid 34 year old nephew is all “bro upped”” with his 22-29 year old staff. He did performance review and all were Meets Expectations and coasting making 70-90k a year.

He then gave speech that could take on extra and work harder and make like a 30-40 percent. After a long pause. One guy goes dude you know we all have 2-3 Low level IT jobs paying 80-90k a year. We only want low bare minimum jobs.

He was pisses he was lowest paid person in department as he was only one with one job.

If this really is a thing, eventually there will be services to check employees status.

We are new into the WFH world, but that “credit check” is coming.

It already exists & is called the work number. You can freeze it.

My DD who is 1 year out of college works at an employer where you need approval to do any kind of second job (including Uber) & need to fill out a form detailing parents’ & hers (none yet) investments & jobs multiple times a year. This is a financial services org

They don’t want you to serve on the board of their portfolio companies where they may have conflict of interest.
No one cares if you want to Uber eat. 🤷‍♀️

Gen Z is way richer. They are inheriting millions their boomer parents!!

Do you think Alex Baldwin or Jerry Seinfeld gen Z kids are worried

I hope someone has pointed this out after 6 pages, OP, but it seems like he *does* care about career advancement, very much. It's just that he doesn't see his career as whatever you do - it's in gaming.

Don't confuse not loving what you do for day to day employment and benefits with lack of ambition.

You all sounds like a bunch of silent generation complaining about hippies. Just like then, gen Z isn't homogeneous and they'll figure out life over time.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z lower level IT people have 2-3 jobs. My coworker said hid 34 year old nephew is all “bro upped”” with his 22-29 year old staff. He did performance review and all were Meets Expectations and coasting making 70-90k a year.

He then gave speech that could take on extra and work harder and make like a 30-40 percent. After a long pause. One guy goes dude you know we all have 2-3 Low level IT jobs paying 80-90k a year. We only want low bare minimum jobs.

He was pisses he was lowest paid person in department as he was only one with one job.

If this really is a thing, eventually there will be services to check employees status.

We are new into the WFH world, but that “credit check” is coming.

Most companies do not check anything current employees. Unlike Europe or India where an employment contract is given and employees ask for proof of resignation that is not common in the US.

My CEO actually owns a second company he is also CEO of. Elon Musk works multiple companies. Lower level people door dash, Uber eats, instacart, people are adjunct professors, sit in paid boards, manage rental properties, do day trading. And yes has second part time or full time jobs.

Look at All in the Family Archie drive a cab after his first job.

However unless we get tax returns and pay 💰 a living wage how can you stop it?

PP is referring to two FULL TIME jobs simultaneously. Sure you can run your startup on the weekends or taxi in evenings. That's a different thing.

Anonymous wrote:Give them time. It's easy to turn down advancement ($$$) when you're single with no kids or mortgage.

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You don't need so much money to have kids and a mortgage. Look at DCUM. You've got loads of people saying their HHI is $500k and it's not enough. BS. You don't need $500k to have a family and a house.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z lower level IT people have 2-3 jobs. My coworker said hid 34 year old nephew is all “bro upped”” with his 22-29 year old staff. He did performance review and all were Meets Expectations and coasting making 70-90k a year.

He then gave speech that could take on extra and work harder and make like a 30-40 percent. After a long pause. One guy goes dude you know we all have 2-3 Low level IT jobs paying 80-90k a year. We only want low bare minimum jobs.

He was pisses he was lowest paid person in department as he was only one with one job.

If this really is a thing, eventually there will be services to check employees status.

We are new into the WFH world, but that “credit check” is coming.

It already exists & is called the work number. You can freeze it.

My DD who is 1 year out of college works at an employer where you need approval to do any kind of second job (including Uber) & need to fill out a form detailing parents’ & hers (none yet) investments & jobs multiple times a year. This is a financial services org

“Require” there is no law stating you can’t have a second full time job. Or third full time job. Or part time job. That is just a company policy to disclose.

So let’s say you DD makes 65k a year at her job. She takes a second Job at 75k. She does not disclose. Why would she as they would just say no.

Well let’s pretend she “gets caught” so what. She collected double pay and still has a job.

Most times I say 99 percent people don’t get “caught” they just have trouble juggling and get let go and burn a bridge.

And even if they do some companies just tell you quit other job. Plus some people create LLCs and “consult” for instance I could create LLC in wife’s name and consult.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z lower level IT people have 2-3 jobs. My coworker said hid 34 year old nephew is all “bro upped”” with his 22-29 year old staff. He did performance review and all were Meets Expectations and coasting making 70-90k a year.

He then gave speech that could take on extra and work harder and make like a 30-40 percent. After a long pause. One guy goes dude you know we all have 2-3 Low level IT jobs paying 80-90k a year. We only want low bare minimum jobs.

He was pisses he was lowest paid person in department as he was only one with one job.

If this really is a thing, eventually there will be services to check employees status.

We are new into the WFH world, but that “credit check” is coming.

It already exists & is called the work number. You can freeze it.

My DD who is 1 year out of college works at an employer where you need approval to do any kind of second job (including Uber) & need to fill out a form detailing parents’ & hers (none yet) investments & jobs multiple times a year. This is a financial services org

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gen Z lower level IT people have 2-3 jobs. My coworker said hid 34 year old nephew is all “bro upped”” with his 22-29 year old staff. He did performance review and all were Meets Expectations and coasting making 70-90k a year.

He then gave speech that could take on extra and work harder and make like a 30-40 percent. After a long pause. One guy goes dude you know we all have 2-3 Low level IT jobs paying 80-90k a year. We only want low bare minimum jobs.

He was pisses he was lowest paid person in department as he was only one with one job.

If this really is a thing, eventually there will be services to check employees status.

We are new into the WFH world, but that “credit check” is coming.

It already exists & is called the work number. You can freeze it.

They care a out advancement. They don't care tondo more work for not a lot more $ and give up personal time to advance a company. Thats fine. Managing people sucks and is hard and stressful. much more fun to be a good individual contributor with few responsibilities besides their own work. Im an older millenial and manage a big team. Many of same age employees have no desire so manage even small teams and be responsible for others. Noone liked group projects in school.

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Anonymous wrote:Give them time. It's easy to turn down advancement ($$$) when you're single with no kids or mortgage.

They won’t be marrying, having kids or getting mortgages. Not sure why that’s so hard for many of you to grasp.

None of them? LMAO

You're an idiot.

Gen Z exists outside of your bubble.

Birthrates & marriage rates are at an all time low

Homeownership rates are down too, and housing in job centers isn’t getting any cheaper

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z lower level IT people have 2-3 jobs. My coworker said hid 34 year old nephew is all “bro upped”” with his 22-29 year old staff. He did performance review and all were Meets Expectations and coasting making 70-90k a year.

He then gave speech that could take on extra and work harder and make like a 30-40 percent. After a long pause. One guy goes dude you know we all have 2-3 Low level IT jobs paying 80-90k a year. We only want low bare minimum jobs.

He was pisses he was lowest paid person in department as he was only one with one job.

If this really is a thing, eventually there will be services to check employees status.

We are new into the WFH world, but that “credit check” is coming.

Most companies do not check anything current employees. Unlike Europe or India where an employment contract is given and employees ask for proof of resignation that is not common in the US.

My CEO actually owns a second company he is also CEO of. Elon Musk works multiple companies. Lower level people door dash, Uber eats, instacart, people are adjunct professors, sit in paid boards, manage rental properties, do day trading. And yes has second part time or full time jobs.

Look at All in the Family Archie drive a cab after his first job.

However unless we get tax returns and pay 💰 a living wage how can you stop it?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give them time. It's easy to turn down advancement ($$$) when you're single with no kids or mortgage.

They won’t be marrying, having kids or getting mortgages. Not sure why that’s so hard for many of you to grasp.

None of them? LMAO

You're an idiot.

Gen Z exists outside of your bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:Give them time. It's easy to turn down advancement ($$$) when you're single with no kids or mortgage.

They won’t be marrying, having kids or getting mortgages. Not sure why that’s so hard for many of you to grasp.

Seriously. Gen Z grew up with the looking threat of climate change, and things have only gotten worse.

Imagine if in the 60s, instead of a series of arms agreements about nuclear weapons, every country kept testing bigger and bigger nuclear bombs, maybe using them tactically? That’s where we are with climate change — a childhood of wary and warning, and now we see increasing CO2, extreme weather, wildfire smoke chocking cities, etc. who wants to have kids if the world is ending? Who even worries about retirement? And for MANY adults, they only want a SFH for stability for the kids and schools — as an adult pre kids I loved being able to move closer to my new job or leave if my neighborhood got dicey — way less rooted and free to #vanlife etc

Anonymous wrote:Gen Z lower level IT people have 2-3 jobs. My coworker said hid 34 year old nephew is all “bro upped”” with his 22-29 year old staff. He did performance review and all were Meets Expectations and coasting making 70-90k a year.

He then gave speech that could take on extra and work harder and make like a 30-40 percent. After a long pause. One guy goes dude you know we all have 2-3 Low level IT jobs paying 80-90k a year. We only want low bare minimum jobs.

He was pisses he was lowest paid person in department as he was only one with one job.

If this really is a thing, eventually there will be services to check employees status.

We are new into the WFH world, but that “credit check” is coming.