A kid w a 4.3 at Yorktown can’t get into uva anymore?

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Another Cherrydale resident here-- my kids are out of high school now, but I felt exactly the same. This topic used to make very angry, lol. If kids can't go to the high school that is less than 4 blocks from their home, then forget about zoned schools and go to a county- wide lottery.

Hilarious, now that your kids are out, you are all "burn it all down and go for a lottery". Typical. SF is lottery, not a model we should follow.

The extend of Yorktown zone is because they have supersized all the schools without building new ones, and density has increased in southern regions so Yorktown has to reach further south to share its load.

Further, the overall shenanigans of APS are driving many families to private, and the families that disproportionately go private are in YHS zone -- thus its zone has to increase further to fill its seats.

I really can't be bothered by some people upset about not being able to walk to a high school, of all the problems our district faces thats pretty minor and only impacts a sliver of people.

Sorry I wasn't clear. It was when my kids were in middle and high school that I felt APS should just go to a county-wide lottery if there was no way to draw boundaries that allowed kids to attend the high school 4 blocks from their house. I loved that my kids were able to walk to high school. (We were not close enough to our assigned elementary or middle schools for them to be walkers then.) But if other, more important goals can't be met while maximizing the number of walkers, then APS should forget about neighborhood schools and do what is best for achieving balanced enrollment across the three high schools, in terms of numbers and demographics. I thought that when my kids were in school, and I continue to think that now. I also strongly support increasing middle and low income housing in north Arlington.

My kids are out of school but my spouse is a teacher in APS, so I still have a rooting interest.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Another Cherrydale resident here-- my kids are out of high school now, but I felt exactly the same. This topic used to make very angry, lol. If kids can't go to the high school that is less than 4 blocks from their home, then forget about zoned schools and go to a county- wide lottery.

I like the idea of a county wide lottery for high school. but it would never get enough support

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Grudgingly I suppose. W-L zoned neighborhoods that supported increasing W-L’s capacity ended up being redistricted to Yorktown anyways. Some are still upset. The problem is that the current Yorktown boundary is now so close to W-L. Any remaining W-L zoned North Arlington neighborhoods that border the Yorktown zone like Lyon Village or those west of N Glebe Rd may put up a fight to stay at W-L.

But the problem is the uneven growth across the county. South Arlington schools are the ones that are growing.

All those WL neighborhoods upset about having to go to YHS should be pushing for missing middle upzoning housing north of Langston Blvd. As long as the density remains central and south, YHS will remain least crowded and more neighborhoods will need to be redistricted away from their beloved WL.

PP from Cherrydale. Yep, I'm a big supporter of missing middle housing being strategically placed for this very reason-- you want more diversity in your schools (and I do), this is the way to get it.

I’m not against missing middle but it won’t lead to more racial diversity. Once they nixed the 8 plexes (presuming those would have been built- which I doubt) the deeper affordability necessary to reach more people of color. This was all laid out by the NAACP. Goodness, I can’t believe anyone is still touting MM as a way to increase diversity with a straight face!

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Another Cherrydale resident here-- my kids are out of high school now, but I felt exactly the same. This topic used to make very angry, lol. If kids can't go to the high school that is less than 4 blocks from their home, then forget about zoned schools and go to a county- wide lottery.

Hilarious, now that your kids are out, you are all "burn it all down and go for a lottery". Typical. SF is lottery, not a model we should follow.

The extend of Yorktown zone is because they have supersized all the schools without building new ones, and density has increased in southern regions so Yorktown has to reach further south to share its load.

Further, the overall shenanigans of APS are driving many families to private, and the families that disproportionately go private are in YHS zone -- thus its zone has to increase further to fill its seats.

I really can't be bothered by some people upset about not being able to walk to a high school, of all the problems our district faces thats pretty minor and only impacts a sliver of people.

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Public school isn't provided for the convenience of parents (rich or poor). It's purpose is to educate and (should be) to educate every child to the best of its ability. Sometimes that means putting students on buses. Everyone can't be within walking distance of school their entire K-12 career. It's not practical, it's not necessary, and it's not an entitlement or "right." I'm so sick of this argument about walkability to avoid boundary changes, especially in a county that's 26 friggin' square miles. This isn't NYC, for cryin' out loud.

PREACH. It’s the smallest county in the country and people act like more bussing would be impossible. The excuses to keep segregation going would be laughable if it weren’t so sad.

And yeah- the public school doesn’t exist for anyone’s personal convenience. It’s to educate the students and that should be the primary focus.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Grudgingly I suppose. W-L zoned neighborhoods that supported increasing W-L’s capacity ended up being redistricted to Yorktown anyways. Some are still upset. The problem is that the current Yorktown boundary is now so close to W-L. Any remaining W-L zoned North Arlington neighborhoods that border the Yorktown zone like Lyon Village or those west of N Glebe Rd may put up a fight to stay at W-L.

But the problem is the uneven growth across the county. South Arlington schools are the ones that are growing.

All those WL neighborhoods upset about having to go to YHS should be pushing for missing middle upzoning housing north of Langston Blvd. As long as the density remains central and south, YHS will remain least crowded and more neighborhoods will need to be redistricted away from their beloved WL.

PP from Cherrydale. Yep, I'm a big supporter of missing middle housing being strategically placed for this very reason-- you want more diversity in your schools (and I do), this is the way to get it.

MM won't get your more diversity; but it will start filling Yorktown so that the WL planning units won't have to be redistricted to Yorktown because there wouldn't be any room. However, if you're so into diverse schools, you should be lobbying now for boundaries that make Yorktown more diverse instead of hoping housing patterns will change over the next 50 years.

6 plexes were approved in Portland a few years ago and very few if any have been built so far. Expectations for lots of new density and reality don’t often align.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Another Cherrydale resident here-- my kids are out of high school now, but I felt exactly the same. This topic used to make very angry, lol. If kids can't go to the high school that is less than 4 blocks from their home, then forget about zoned schools and go to a county- wide lottery.

Hilarious, now that your kids are out, you are all "burn it all down and go for a lottery". Typical. SF is lottery, not a model we should follow.

The extend of Yorktown zone is because they have supersized all the schools without building new ones, and density has increased in southern regions so Yorktown has to reach further south to share its load.

Further, the overall shenanigans of APS are driving many families to private, and the families that disproportionately go private are in YHS zone -- thus its zone has to increase further to fill its seats.

I really can't be bothered by some people upset about not being able to walk to a high school, of all the problems our district faces thats pretty minor and only impacts a sliver of people.

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Public school isn't provided for the convenience of parents (rich or poor). It's purpose is to educate and (should be) to educate every child to the best of its ability. Sometimes that means putting students on buses. Everyone can't be within walking distance of school their entire K-12 career. It's not practical, it's not necessary, and it's not an entitlement or "right." I'm so sick of this argument about walkability to avoid boundary changes, especially in a county that's 26 friggin' square miles. This isn't NYC, for cryin' out loud.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Haven't laughed so hard in years!

Why is this funny? I thought the orange t shirts originated about WL Pu moving to YHS?

Wrong directions:

The orange shirts were a group of parents who showed up at the High School boundary discussion, all wearing orange shirts (Arlington Forest Pool colors) and argued that their neighborhood needed to stay together at W&L b/c theoretically their kids biked to W&L- but could not bike to the wasteland that is Wakefield.

Maddening. You know every one of those kids gets driven to W-L each morning.

Curious, how many bikes are in bike racks every morning... especially on hot/rainy days.

or cold, snowy/icy days? or days when they need to transport their lacrosse sticks, etc....

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Grudgingly I suppose. W-L zoned neighborhoods that supported increasing W-L’s capacity ended up being redistricted to Yorktown anyways. Some are still upset. The problem is that the current Yorktown boundary is now so close to W-L. Any remaining W-L zoned North Arlington neighborhoods that border the Yorktown zone like Lyon Village or those west of N Glebe Rd may put up a fight to stay at W-L.

But the problem is the uneven growth across the county. South Arlington schools are the ones that are growing.

All those WL neighborhoods upset about having to go to YHS should be pushing for missing middle upzoning housing north of Langston Blvd. As long as the density remains central and south, YHS will remain least crowded and more neighborhoods will need to be redistricted away from their beloved WL.

PP from Cherrydale. Yep, I'm a big supporter of missing middle housing being strategically placed for this very reason-- you want more diversity in your schools (and I do), this is the way to get it.

MM won't get your more diversity; but it will start filling Yorktown so that the WL planning units won't have to be redistricted to Yorktown because there wouldn't be any room. However, if you're so into diverse schools, you should be lobbying now for boundaries that make Yorktown more diverse instead of hoping housing patterns will change over the next 50 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Another Cherrydale resident here-- my kids are out of high school now, but I felt exactly the same. This topic used to make very angry, lol. If kids can't go to the high school that is less than 4 blocks from their home, then forget about zoned schools and go to a county- wide lottery.

Hilarious, now that your kids are out, you are all "burn it all down and go for a lottery". Typical. SF is lottery, not a model we should follow.

The extend of Yorktown zone is because they have supersized all the schools without building new ones, and density has increased in southern regions so Yorktown has to reach further south to share its load.

Further, the overall shenanigans of APS are driving many families to private, and the families that disproportionately go private are in YHS zone -- thus its zone has to increase further to fill its seats.

I really can't be bothered by some people upset about not being able to walk to a high school, of all the problems our district faces thats pretty minor and only impacts a sliver of people.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Haven't laughed so hard in years!

Why is this funny? I thought the orange t shirts originated about WL Pu moving to YHS?

Wrong directions:

The orange shirts were a group of parents who showed up at the High School boundary discussion, all wearing orange shirts (Arlington Forest Pool colors) and argued that their neighborhood needed to stay together at W&L b/c theoretically their kids biked to W&L- but could not bike to the wasteland that is Wakefield.

Maddening. You know every one of those kids gets driven to W-L each morning.

Curious, how many bikes are in bike racks every morning... especially on hot/rainy days.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Haven't laughed so hard in years!

Why is this funny? I thought the orange t shirts originated about WL Pu moving to YHS?

Wrong directions:

The orange shirts were a group of parents who showed up at the High School boundary discussion, all wearing orange shirts (Arlington Forest Pool colors) and argued that their neighborhood needed to stay together at W&L b/c theoretically their kids biked to W&L- but could not bike to the wasteland that is Wakefield.

Maddening. You know every one of those kids gets driven to W-L each morning.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Grudgingly I suppose. W-L zoned neighborhoods that supported increasing W-L’s capacity ended up being redistricted to Yorktown anyways. Some are still upset. The problem is that the current Yorktown boundary is now so close to W-L. Any remaining W-L zoned North Arlington neighborhoods that border the Yorktown zone like Lyon Village or those west of N Glebe Rd may put up a fight to stay at W-L.

But the problem is the uneven growth across the county. South Arlington schools are the ones that are growing.

All those WL neighborhoods upset about having to go to YHS should be pushing for missing middle upzoning housing north of Langston Blvd. As long as the density remains central and south, YHS will remain least crowded and more neighborhoods will need to be redistricted away from their beloved WL.

PP from Cherrydale. Yep, I'm a big supporter of missing middle housing being strategically placed for this very reason-- you want more diversity in your schools (and I do), this is the way to get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Another Cherrydale resident here-- my kids are out of high school now, but I felt exactly the same. This topic used to make very angry, lol. If kids can't go to the high school that is less than 4 blocks from their home, then forget about zoned schools and go to a county- wide lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Haven't laughed so hard in years!

Why is this funny? I thought the orange t shirts originated about WL Pu moving to YHS?

Wrong directions:

The orange shirts were a group of parents who showed up at the High School boundary discussion, all wearing orange shirts (Arlington Forest Pool colors) and argued that their neighborhood needed to stay together at W&L b/c theoretically their kids biked to W&L- but could not bike to the wasteland that is Wakefield.

Yes....the biking route to Wakefield being a straight shot down George Mason and probably less dangerous than their route to WL. Not that that many were actually biking anyway.

That neighborhood (Arlington Forest n of 50) likely would have been rezoned back to W-L anyways with the new additional seats at W-L and overcrowding at Wakefield. (The walk or bike ride to W-L is actually pretty safe since the pedestrian infrastructure is good around Ballston. George Mason and Glebe are the busiest intersections.)

Unfortunately APS doesn’t take into account demographics when re zoning schools. So the school system has actually become more segregated over the years

Correction: parents won't let APS use demographics to create socioeconomically diverse schools. APS has tried to incorporate socioeconomic diversity in the past and diversity is technically one of the "consideration" factors in its boundary policy. It is more accurate to state that APS refuses to prioritize socioeconomical diversity in order to avoid community pushback when establishing school boundaries.