Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:23
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But doesn’t he have a right to be an unmedicated mental patient?
He has not actually injured anyone (yet).
It is time to restore the inpatient mental asylum system, though in a companionate way with ample safeguards.
Oh, it’s you again. You didn’t get enough attention on the other thread?
I'm sure that there are many of us who think long-term hospitalization is appropriate for some mentally ill individuals.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:22
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
No, statistically those posters are correct and you are not.
PP here. You can quote statistics, but it's not a rare occurrence for unmedicated individuals with schizophrenia to experienced paranoia and become aggressive. (I didn't say most.)
A. This poster actually has no idea whether or not her neighbor is unmedicated. None. Zip. Zero. I realize the armchair mental health warriors here strongly believe that if people with schizophrenia just took their meds, they would act normal. That is not the case.
B. It is nowhere near common enough to justify calling the police just because a person is behaving in an unseemly way in public. What exactly do you think the cops are going to do?
I never said to call the police. I'm making a statement about the potential for aggressive behavior. If a person with schizophrenia is screaming and talking to himself/herself in the front yard unattended, then the meds (if being taken) are not effective. This individual with schizophrenia does not sound stable.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:22
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But doesn’t he have a right to be an unmedicated mental patient?
He has not actually injured anyone (yet).
It is time to restore the inpatient mental asylum system, though in a companionate way with ample safeguards.
Oh, it’s you again. You didn’t get enough attention on the other thread?
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:21
Subject: Re:Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
“Do?” It’s not illegal to live in a house and step outside that house while having a mental illness.
If at some point in the future he commits a crime, call the police.
If at some point in the future he commits a crime, call the police.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:17
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
No, statistically those posters are correct and you are not.
PP here. You can quote statistics, but it's not a rare occurrence for unmedicated individuals with schizophrenia to experienced paranoia and become aggressive. (I didn't say most.)
A. This poster actually has no idea whether or not her neighbor is unmedicated. None. Zip. Zero. I realize the armchair mental health warriors here strongly believe that if people with schizophrenia just took their meds, they would act normal. That is not the case.
B. It is nowhere near common enough to justify calling the police just because a person is behaving in an unseemly way in public. What exactly do you think the cops are going to do?
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:15
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Up until this year my son was a typical college student. He moved home after his second year, and I fear he will never launch. This could happen to any of your children, it certainly came out of the blue for us (no trauma or family history).
We (he, my spouse and I, plus his psychiatrist) are doing everything we can to find the right balance of medications and therapy. It's such a difficult road, you cannot even imagine. The vast majority of those diagnosed with a severe mental illness are no harm to you, your family or your neighborhood.
I am so sorry for your situation. Far more common than folks realize. Is am wishing you strength!
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:13
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
+1. This is the primary concern. Sorry for the parents and family but OP should be concerned about the safety of her own family. If you can afford to move, do it. Your children do not have to live next door to a schizophrenic who could potentially be violent to learn about mental illness. Safety first.
Note all the PPs advising that OP care for the neighbors mental state, call parents to offer support, and essential dismiss her own safety are typing away from the safety and comfort of their own homes - where they are likely not living next door to potential risks to their families.
What a bizarre idea. I have a severely mentally ill person in my home with me; that's the basis for my advice. Clutch your pearls all you want about it, I guess.
Don't call the cops.
If there is ever an unstable, mentally ill human who could potentially cause harm to my family wreaking havoc in the streets, I am absolutely calling the police.
This isn’t that.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:07
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
+1. This is the primary concern. Sorry for the parents and family but OP should be concerned about the safety of her own family. If you can afford to move, do it. Your children do not have to live next door to a schizophrenic who could potentially be violent to learn about mental illness. Safety first.
Note all the PPs advising that OP care for the neighbors mental state, call parents to offer support, and essential dismiss her own safety are typing away from the safety and comfort of their own homes - where they are likely not living next door to potential risks to their families.
What a bizarre idea. I have a severely mentally ill person in my home with me; that's the basis for my advice. Clutch your pearls all you want about it, I guess.
Don't call the cops.
So do I. In fact I thought I was reading about him in the OP except he is not schizophrenic. Agree with your advice.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:06
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
+1. This is the primary concern. Sorry for the parents and family but OP should be concerned about the safety of her own family. If you can afford to move, do it. Your children do not have to live next door to a schizophrenic who could potentially be violent to learn about mental illness. Safety first.
Note all the PPs advising that OP care for the neighbors mental state, call parents to offer support, and essential dismiss her own safety are typing away from the safety and comfort of their own homes - where they are likely not living next door to potential risks to their families.
What a bizarre idea. I have a severely mentally ill person in my home with me; that's the basis for my advice. Clutch your pearls all you want about it, I guess.
Don't call the cops.
If there is ever an unstable, mentally ill human who could potentially cause harm to my family wreaking havoc in the streets, I am absolutely calling the police.
Well, may you be so lucky as to never be in PP’s (and OP’s neighbors’, and many other’s) situation. Just remember, that’s what it is…luck.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:02
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
No, statistically those posters are correct and you are not.
PP here. You can quote statistics, but it's not a rare occurrence for unmedicated individuals with schizophrenia to experienced paranoia and become aggressive. (I didn't say most.)
Anonymous
04/13/2023 17:01
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
+1. This is the primary concern. Sorry for the parents and family but OP should be concerned about the safety of her own family. If you can afford to move, do it. Your children do not have to live next door to a schizophrenic who could potentially be violent to learn about mental illness. Safety first.
Note all the PPs advising that OP care for the neighbors mental state, call parents to offer support, and essential dismiss her own safety are typing away from the safety and comfort of their own homes - where they are likely not living next door to potential risks to their families.
What a bizarre idea. I have a severely mentally ill person in my home with me; that's the basis for my advice. Clutch your pearls all you want about it, I guess.
Don't call the cops.
If there is ever an unstable, mentally ill human who could potentially cause harm to my family wreaking havoc in the streets, I am absolutely calling the police.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 16:52
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
You could move or lock yourself in your home out of fear or fence the home out of fear or MYOB and go about your life.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 16:51
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
+1. This is the primary concern. Sorry for the parents and family but OP should be concerned about the safety of her own family. If you can afford to move, do it. Your children do not have to live next door to a schizophrenic who could potentially be violent to learn about mental illness. Safety first.
Note all the PPs advising that OP care for the neighbors mental state, call parents to offer support, and essential dismiss her own safety are typing away from the safety and comfort of their own homes - where they are likely not living next door to potential risks to their families.
What a bizarre idea. I have a severely mentally ill person in my home with me; that's the basis for my advice. Clutch your pearls all you want about it, I guess.
Don't call the cops.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 16:49
Subject: Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is that schizophrenics can become paranoid and violent. I would be very worried if I were the neighbors. Set up cameras, fence, etc, and help out the parents with county information and resources.
+1 Posters saying they're rarely paranoid and harm others are incorrect.
No, statistically those posters are correct and you are not.
Anonymous
04/13/2023 16:48
Subject: Re:Neighbor is unmediated schizophrenic; anything to do?
Anonymous wrote:If there is an active concern, call the crisis center - https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/HHS-Program/Program.aspx?id=BHCS/BHCS24hrcrisiscenter-p204.html
24 Hour Crisis Center
The Crisis Center provides free crisis services 24 hours a day/ 365 days a year. Services are provided by telephone (240-777-4000) or in person at 1301 Piccard Drive in Rockville (no appointment needed). Mobile Crisis Team (MCT) provides emergency crisis evaluations for individuals who are experiencing a mental health crisis. Full crisis assessments and treatment referrals are provided for all crises, both psychiatric and situational. In addition, the program has four crisis beds as an alternative to hospitalization for those who are uninsured or are insured within the public mental health system.
Service(s): In Person Crisis Intervention
Crisis Intervention Hotlines/Helplines
Target Population:
Information Number: 240-777-4000
Location(s):
MidCounty DHHS Building
1301 Piccard Drive, Rockville, MD 20850
This is the correct answer. DO NOT call the police; you could get this person killed in an escalation that doesn't need to happen in the first place.
IDK how "Bethesda-like" comes into it.