Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:56     Subject: Re:This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

sadly there were messages on social media, multiple reports online of the banker reportedly telling a friend he was feeling suicidal and would "shoot up the bank".
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:53     Subject: Re:This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where was bank security? Doesn’t every bank have armed security now? More proof that having armed security guards doesn’t stop mass shootings from happening.


Reports are that the shooting started in a conference room. Armed guards are not found in conference rooms.
And, the shooter was an employee.


Well, you can’t have armed security everywhere in any building/area. So it’s essentially not helpful, is it? Mall security guy is having lunch at the food court as a shooting starts in dept store at other end of the mall? No help. Bank guards are in lobby of bank as shooting starts in conference room? No help. School security guard is by front office as shooter comes in a different door of the school? No help. Etc. You simply can’t have someone armed and ready to shoot the shooter at all times. It’s impossible. So clearly having armed security is not preventing mass shootings.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:53     Subject: Re:This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

The shooter was live streaming the massacre on Instagram. so sick.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:51     Subject: This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reports of five dead and six injured by a shooter at a bank in Louisville. Maybe red states will start to change their view if more shootings happen in their states? Thoughts and prayers aren’t working, so it’s long past time to try something else.

I’m sorry for the victims and families (unless they’re anti gun control in which case you get what you get.)

How much worse will it get before it gets better? Columbine should have been enough, and definitely Sandy Hook. Maybe it’s time to start posting pictures of the carnage so people will start to understand the damage guns do, especially assault rifles. Nothing else is working.


I think you are misreading the political climate in red states. The answer in most will be to expand conceal carry and limit places that ban conceal carry. Not any other gun control.


Idiocy. More concealed carry DOES NOT reduce crime.


It does not increase crime.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:51     Subject: This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I ALSO THINK THESE MASS SHOOTINGS ARE A RESULT OF OUR COLD, CALLOUS SOCIETY.


The U.S. is the only country that has anything like this level of problem. We're not that much more cold or callous than most other places - in some cases, we're warmer and more welcoming. Where we really, really differ is the number of guns per capita that we have in private hands. I'm all for making this a kinder, gentler nation -- but, really, the guns are the biggest problem.



I think PP is referring to that lack of a social safety net, mental health services are for the rich because insurance isn’t taken by most practices and the ones who do take insurance have long waitlists. We live in a dog-eat-dog society. Inequality is sky high.


If we can get a bipartisan agreement for massive public funding of mental health care infrastructure, I'd call it a win -- even if I think that guns are the larger part of the mass killing problem. Independent of these shootings, we need better mental health care in this country.


OP doesn’t care.

She‘d rather tilt at windmills, screech “BAN GUNZ!!” and pretend there’s a chance at a constitutional convention to overturn the Bill of Rights.

Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:47     Subject: Re:This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:Where was bank security? Doesn’t every bank have armed security now? More proof that having armed security guards doesn’t stop mass shootings from happening.


Reports are that the shooting started in a conference room. Armed guards are not found in conference rooms.
And, the shooter was an employee.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:43     Subject: This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gov Beshear (a democrat) said he has a good friend who is one of the victims.

Sadly, I fear that will make the Rs in KY even more resolute to not let this change anything.

+1

But it doesn’t matter. Governor Lee’s wife had a friend who was killed in the Nashville shooting. Rep. Scalise almost died. They still don’t care.


It’s not about caring or not caring.
Yes we clearly need to enact more bans on access to guns and step up other protocols for identifying individuals who might be a risk.


But to get rid of guns all together isn’t going to happen.
Besides the 2nd amendment which other amendment are you ok with getting rid of?
Because that’s really the heart of the issue.
Neither political party is willing to alter an amendment bc once you start then it it’s a slippery slope.


That’s not the issue. The constitution was amended in the 90’s. The issue is that the bar for an amendment is high and amending the 2nd amendment to allow states to pass stricter gun control laws will not pass in the US.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:42     Subject: Re:This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Last month
Nashville, TN: an ex student goes on a shooting spree in their former school after purchasing guns legally.

This month
Louisville, Ky: an employee goes on a shooting spree in a bank they worked for after purchasing guns legally.

Republicans: "WE MUST STOP PRONOUNS!"
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:42     Subject: This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:It's taking them a long time to reveal the shooter's identity. All I've heard/read is that the shooter was an employee or former employee of the location.



His name and picture are everywhere. They've already located his house, family, social media. 25-year-old Connor Sturgeon, some say 23 years old.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:41     Subject: This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently a former employee of the bank.

Circumstances don’t matter, though, nothing will change.


Thanks, my initial guess had been a robbery.


The thing about these shootings is that they're all based on emotional and psychological issues.

and all involve guns


All involve CRIMINALS.

Why do you always ignore that part? Doesn’t fit your political agenda here on DCUM ?


I’m fine with that. Let them try to commit mass murder in two minutes with a pocket knife.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:39     Subject: Re:This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The shooter is dead too


The shooter always dies. It's become normalized. "I have big feelings. I'll go get a gun that I can buy very easily and shoot people, then myself, and/or get shot in the process." How does this help


If only they’d use those “big feelings” to kill only themselves.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:39     Subject: Re:This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Where was bank security? Doesn’t every bank have armed security now? More proof that having armed security guards doesn’t stop mass shootings from happening.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:38     Subject: This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reports of five dead and six injured by a shooter at a bank in Louisville. Maybe red states will start to change their view if more shootings happen in their states? Thoughts and prayers aren’t working, so it’s long past time to try something else.

I’m sorry for the victims and families (unless they’re anti gun control in which case you get what you get.)

How much worse will it get before it gets better? Columbine should have been enough, and definitely Sandy Hook. Maybe it’s time to start posting pictures of the carnage so people will start to understand the damage guns do, especially assault rifles. Nothing else is working.


Red states already have higher rates of gun violence and death: accident, homicide, and suicide. It doesn't matter, for several reasons: feelings about the second amendment, thinking they won't be affected (especially since blue cities in red states have a lot of the homicides and rural white voters distance themselves from that), huge campaign contributions from groups that oppose even very popular and minor changes to gun laws


That is a lot of statements with no support.


And yet, the death rates from firearms in red states are higher (do you dispute that?) and they are not passing laws to change that...if anything, going to more open carry.and easier permits for young adults or no permits required at all. To what do you attribute that?


I question everything when not supported.

California has had 25 mass shooting since 1982 - the most of any state. Last I checked it was not a red state.


Gee, how many people live in California versus Alabama?

Use your brain.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:37     Subject: This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently a former employee of the bank.

Circumstances don’t matter, though, nothing will change.


Thanks, my initial guess had been a robbery.


The thing about these shootings is that they're all based on emotional and psychological issues.


And guns.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 15:35     Subject: Re:This time it’s Louisville, KY with the shooter

Ted Cruz, the undisputed king of self-owns.