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Anonymous wrote:Unless you tell us what you said, you are a racist. Bcs not posting what you said means you know it was wrong.

No, it’s protecting my identity. What I said was NOT wrong.

Of course it was. Thank you for being the poster child for racists that never believe they are racist. It’s too bad you haven’t taken the time to reflect on your bigotry.

Jesus, are you a right-wing troll trying to make the left look foolish? Because you are succeeding. You sound like an idiot, PP. Stop your knees from jerking uncontrollably before you post again.

+1. Ironically, these posters are proving OP’s point.

I’m sorry that happened to you, OP, and I 100% believe it could.

These posters jumping on the cancellation bandwagon without even knowing what was said are what’s wrong with this country.
There’s a big change coming, and I honestly can’t wait. This ridiculousness can’t last much longer.

Anonymous wrote:I know someone who could have written this post. It’s true that the comment was not intentionally racist but it was definitely offensive. But the real reason this person got cancelled was because they had made a LOT of enemies with their underhanded ways, and so nobody intervened.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless you tell us what you said, you are a racist. Bcs not posting what you said means you know it was wrong.

No, it’s protecting my identity. What I said was NOT wrong.

Of course it was. Thank you for being the poster child for racists that never believe they are racist. It’s too bad you haven’t taken the time to reflect on your bigotry.

Jesus, are you a right-wing troll trying to make the left look foolish? Because you are succeeding. You sound like an idiot, PP. Stop your knees from jerking uncontrollably before you post again.

+1. Ironically, these posters are proving OP’s point.

I’m sorry that happened to you, OP, and I 100% believe it could.

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This is where the refusal to discuss meaning, context and intent is tragic. For some people and generations the concepts”we are all immigrants” is meant to signal resistance and refute to the concept that “real Americans “ are white Christians who are not recent immigrants. A response to “go back to where you came from,” a reminder that migration, whether forced or chosen, has defined this country. No less than Obama used this quote multiple times.

As a recent immigrant, you feel there should be a distinction between your experience and the experience of the white person you describe as a colonist; that is a good discussion to have and could be a teachable moment, on both sides, to explain intent and discuss the gap between the two of you. Why from your perspective your experiences are different, without resorting to calling him a bigot. You can explain that for you this coming cost erases the distinction of those who came to exploit and those who came to flee. But is what he said bigoted? Or does he lack an understanding of your perspective and what is a relatively recent critical stance in academic writing? Do you understand why he said what he did and the intent behind it? You assume he’s trying to claim a status you feel he does not deserve but is it possible he meant it in the Barack Obama way?What he trying to hide his actions or signal some kind of solidarity? ? Is it that you feel erased by his comments? Finally you are also assuming this man is a colonist descendant. Is that the case of his family? What about Irish immigrants during the potato famine? Jewish immigrants in the 1890s? The incredibly crude identity politics I see now is not really reflective of most peoples lives, families, pathways.

Finally to OP. I would stop posting here. I completely understand that what you describe is possible. I work in a very “woke” environment with a lot of white people who use virtual signaling to try to maintain their positions of power in a rapidly changing field. I have seen some very prominent people cancelled (even though extensive investigations showed no racist remarks or behavior) and have seen how they were abandoned by coworkers and colleagues. Some because they were afraid to be lumped in the same category and some because it was a power move. One of these canceled people was ultimately the subject of a very long piece in a magazine which illuminated the sordid story (and showed the accuser was mentally unwell) but it didn’t matter. They had been professionally and personally made invisible and it really didn’t matter what the reality was once perception rumor took hold. No one wants to be I. The wrong side of race and will throw colleagues under the bus if their own position is threatened.

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Excellent. The only thing I would add is that some of those "colonists" were fleeing religious persecution themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I completely see why you don’t want to provide details OP. But you aren’t going to get a bunch of people rushing to support you without details.

I am an employment discrimination lawyer. The certainty with which people believe they have been wronged bears absolutely no relation to whether they have actually been wronged. On both sides of of the equation— the victims and the accusers.

Not looking for support, just trying to get people to understand that a person being cancelled is not evidence of them deserving it. Sometimes deeply unfair things happen to people.

But it becomes a self-reinforcing belief: if they were cancelled, they must have deserved it, and if they deserved it, we shouldn’t listen to anything else they say.

I also get tired of people conflating the “cancellation” of rich and powerful people who committed public or well known wrongs (most of these people are never truly cancelled because they are rich and powerful, so unless they wind up in prison, they’ll be ok).

And private people who are cancelled on the basis of a rumor or unproven allegation. They aren’t the same. There was no formal investigation into my situation (I wish there had been, as it would have vindicated me) and most of the people who canceled me knew nothing more about it than they had been told third or fourth hand. Very different than a public investigation.

I was compelled to post because the thread about the teen reminded me of how easily rumors and an eager audience can destroy a person’s life.

The way “cancelled” is thrown around in these threads is baffling to me. Like the way every act of rudeness/meanness/unfriendliness is now called “bullying.”

I thought cancellation was a conservative grievance term for the removal of a public platform, like his show/commercial/book publication was cancelled. How is that even possible in the context of a private person? If OP was dropped from a friend or work group for something they said, are we calling that being “cancelled’ now?

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This is where the refusal to discuss meaning, context and intent is tragic. For some people and generations the concepts”we are all immigrants” is meant to signal resistance and refute to the concept that “real Americans “ are white Christians who are not recent immigrants. A response to “go back to where you came from,” a reminder that migration, whether forced or chosen, has defined this country. No less than Obama used this quote multiple times.

As a recent immigrant, you feel there should be a distinction between your experience and the experience of the white person you describe as a colonist; that is a good discussion to have and could be a teachable moment, on both sides, to explain intent and discuss the gap between the two of you. Why from your perspective your experiences are different, without resorting to calling him a bigot. You can explain that for you this coming cost erases the distinction of those who came to exploit and those who came to flee. But is what he said bigoted? Or does he lack an understanding of your perspective and what is a relatively recent critical stance in academic writing? Do you understand why he said what he did and the intent behind it? You assume he’s trying to claim a status you feel he does not deserve but is it possible he meant it in the Barack Obama way?What he trying to hide his actions or signal some kind of solidarity? ? Is it that you feel erased by his comments? Finally you are also assuming this man is a colonist descendant. Is that the case of his family? What about Irish immigrants during the potato famine? Jewish immigrants in the 1890s? The incredibly crude identity politics I see now is not really reflective of most peoples lives, families, pathways.

Finally to OP. I would stop posting here. I completely understand that what you describe is possible. I work in a very “woke” environment with a lot of white people who use virtual signaling to try to maintain their positions of power in a rapidly changing field. I have seen some very prominent people cancelled (even though extensive investigations showed no racist remarks or behavior) and have seen how they were abandoned by coworkers and colleagues. Some because they were afraid to be lumped in the same category and some because it was a power move. One of these canceled people was ultimately the subject of a very long piece in a magazine which illuminated the sordid story (and showed the accuser was mentally unwell) but it didn’t matter. They had been professionally and personally made invisible and it really didn’t matter what the reality was once perception rumor took hold. No one wants to be I. The wrong side of race and will throw colleagues under the bus if their own position is threatened.

Anonymous wrote:Actually, some of the Native Americans did quite a lot to help the early colonists, as did, for instance, the Wampanoag in New England.

what IS racist about that?

Just BCS, you don't know you are racist does not make you any less racist. The guy at work is a bigot. Plus, way to showcase your lack of knowledge about discrimination. There is a reason he said that, to prove that he is just as disadvantaged!!!! as those immigrants. Plus, to showcase his hate for new immigrants.
Way to go bigots of the world.