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Anonymous wrote:Don't understand the point of raising the cost that much if the vast majority get aid. Just keep the cost lower, and don't provide as much aid. It makes it more affordable for more people that way.

They’re taking from the rich and giving to the poor, aren’t they?

Yea. And those of us willing to pay $100k are willing to do so with the idea that it could boost chance of admission for our kid.

This country is failing.

The cost of a college education (even at state schools) has gotten way out of hand.

They sharp spike upward in cost which isn't even remotely close to the pace of salaries is crazy.

Once the fed loan program came in and schools found out people would just borrow, borrow and borrow some more...the tuitions started spiking. And colleges started to become like country clubs with huge sports centers and coffee bars and luxury dorms, etc. I had a dorm room without air conditioning, that was bare bones and the cafeteria which was equivalent to my public high school cafeteria. Now these kids can get health shakes and have 50 different lunch options.

Anonymous wrote:Don't understand the point of raising the cost that much if the vast majority get aid. Just keep the cost lower, and don't provide as much aid. It makes it more affordable for more people that way.

They’re taking from the rich and giving to the poor, aren’t they?

Anonymous wrote:Don't understand the point of raising the cost that much if the vast majority get aid. Just keep the cost lower, and don't provide as much aid. It makes it more affordable for more people that way.

Because low-income students wouldn’t be able to attend, then,

Don't understand the point of raising the cost that much if the vast majority get aid. Just keep the cost lower, and don't provide as much aid. It makes it more affordable for more people that way.

Anonymous wrote:The funniest thing about the varsity blues schedule was this idea that USC was coveted.

I thought that was an interesting thing that came out of the scandal. There's a real demand to send rich kids to a walled garden of the same, and not ASU, the horror. Not surprising, but very explicitly stated. Scandal aside, there are schools like USC that provide exactly this. Far more pronounced than a generation ago.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

Hardworking taxpaying middle class should be able to take some vacations, renovate old kitchen and at the same time should be able to send kids to whatever schools they are well qualified without losing arms and legs.

NYU and USC are rich kid schools. They give very little financial aid to anyone.

Honestly, so what? Why does this trigger people? It's not the end of the world if you can't afford two out of the thousands of four-year universities in the U.S. It's frankly a bit whiny and entitled (and delusional) to think your teen should be able to waltz in anywhere if you don't have the bucks to pay. I mean, can they just waltz into Sidwell too? Obviously not.

Because Americans, and American Universities like to pretend that college attendance is about merit and that getting into a great college is a reward for a kid who busts their ass in high school. NYU and USC are the last who want to admit that it's really about the ability to pay

You can bust your butt and get in, sure, but who says it's supposed to be free or cheap? Your kid can also bust their butt k-8th and get into Sidwell or Exeter, but unless you can pay, they can't go. How is this news to anyone or some horrific indictment of higher ed? You're all being super dramatic for no reason. Who freakin' cares.

Better job opportunities out of top schools.

Might be better job opportunities if you buy a Savile Row suit, too.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

Hardworking taxpaying middle class should be able to take some vacations, renovate old kitchen and at the same time should be able to send kids to whatever schools they are well qualified without losing arms and legs.

NYU and USC are rich kid schools. They give very little financial aid to anyone.

Honestly, so what? Why does this trigger people? It's not the end of the world if you can't afford two out of the thousands of four-year universities in the U.S. It's frankly a bit whiny and entitled (and delusional) to think your teen should be able to waltz in anywhere if you don't have the bucks to pay. I mean, can they just waltz into Sidwell too? Obviously not.

Because Americans, and American Universities like to pretend that college attendance is about merit and that getting into a great college is a reward for a kid who busts their ass in high school. NYU and USC are the last who want to admit that it's really about the ability to pay

Not all Americans pretend that. I couldn’t afford the best school I could get into either. That’s normal! Some schools have always been out of reach for most people, no matter their “merit.” I’m sorry you bought into the myth so long but it’s time to let it go.

25 years ago I vividly recall our salutatorian getting into Vanderbilt (and possibly Brown) and her family couldn't afford either, so she went to the state flagship. Nobody cared or cried about it. This is hardly a new phenom.

Sure, but since then most even half way decent schools have spend large amounts of money marketing themselves as affordable for any accepted student

That wasn’t my takeaway. Seems like they’ve tried to make it affordable for any family who was willing to really prioritize school over anything else. Which, when I was a kid, wasn’t really the deal. No one middle class thought they could afford elite schools in my small rural town.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

Hardworking taxpaying middle class should be able to take some vacations, renovate old kitchen and at the same time should be able to send kids to whatever schools they are well qualified without losing arms and legs.

NYU and USC are rich kid schools. They give very little financial aid to anyone.

Honestly, so what? Why does this trigger people? It's not the end of the world if you can't afford two out of the thousands of four-year universities in the U.S. It's frankly a bit whiny and entitled (and delusional) to think your teen should be able to waltz in anywhere if you don't have the bucks to pay. I mean, can they just waltz into Sidwell too? Obviously not.

Because Americans, and American Universities like to pretend that college attendance is about merit and that getting into a great college is a reward for a kid who busts their ass in high school. NYU and USC are the last who want to admit that it's really about the ability to pay

Not all Americans pretend that. I couldn’t afford the best school I could get into either. That’s normal! Some schools have always been out of reach for most people, no matter their “merit.” I’m sorry you bought into the myth so long but it’s time to let it go.

25 years ago I vividly recall our salutatorian getting into Vanderbilt (and possibly Brown) and her family couldn't afford either, so she went to the state flagship. Nobody cared or cried about it. This is hardly a new phenom.

And today maybe they could but obviously not every single kid can afford Vanderbilt! It’s just silly to think otherwise and baffling so many people on this board are shocked by it.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

Hardworking taxpaying middle class should be able to take some vacations, renovate old kitchen and at the same time should be able to send kids to whatever schools they are well qualified without losing arms and legs.

NYU and USC are rich kid schools. They give very little financial aid to anyone.

Honestly, so what? Why does this trigger people? It's not the end of the world if you can't afford two out of the thousands of four-year universities in the U.S. It's frankly a bit whiny and entitled (and delusional) to think your teen should be able to waltz in anywhere if you don't have the bucks to pay. I mean, can they just waltz into Sidwell too? Obviously not.

Because Americans, and American Universities like to pretend that college attendance is about merit and that getting into a great college is a reward for a kid who busts their ass in high school. NYU and USC are the last who want to admit that it's really about the ability to pay

You can bust your butt and get in, sure, but who says it's supposed to be free or cheap? Your kid can also bust their butt k-8th and get into Sidwell or Exeter, but unless you can pay, they can't go. How is this news to anyone or some horrific indictment of higher ed? You're all being super dramatic for no reason. Who freakin' cares.

Better job opportunities out of top schools.

Sometimes. Sometimes not. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Your children's careers are not doomed by attending a less expensive college.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

Hardworking taxpaying middle class should be able to take some vacations, renovate old kitchen and at the same time should be able to send kids to whatever schools they are well qualified without losing arms and legs.

NYU and USC are rich kid schools. They give very little financial aid to anyone.

Honestly, so what? Why does this trigger people? It's not the end of the world if you can't afford two out of the thousands of four-year universities in the U.S. It's frankly a bit whiny and entitled (and delusional) to think your teen should be able to waltz in anywhere if you don't have the bucks to pay. I mean, can they just waltz into Sidwell too? Obviously not.

Because Americans, and American Universities like to pretend that college attendance is about merit and that getting into a great college is a reward for a kid who busts their ass in high school. NYU and USC are the last who want to admit that it's really about the ability to pay

Not all Americans pretend that. I couldn’t afford the best school I could get into either. That’s normal! Some schools have always been out of reach for most people, no matter their “merit.” I’m sorry you bought into the myth so long but it’s time to let it go.

25 years ago I vividly recall our salutatorian getting into Vanderbilt (and possibly Brown) and her family couldn't afford either, so she went to the state flagship. Nobody cared or cried about it. This is hardly a new phenom.

Sure, but since then most even half way decent schools have spend large amounts of money marketing themselves as affordable for any accepted student

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

Hardworking taxpaying middle class should be able to take some vacations, renovate old kitchen and at the same time should be able to send kids to whatever schools they are well qualified without losing arms and legs.

NYU and USC are rich kid schools. They give very little financial aid to anyone.

Honestly, so what? Why does this trigger people? It's not the end of the world if you can't afford two out of the thousands of four-year universities in the U.S. It's frankly a bit whiny and entitled (and delusional) to think your teen should be able to waltz in anywhere if you don't have the bucks to pay. I mean, can they just waltz into Sidwell too? Obviously not.

Because Americans, and American Universities like to pretend that college attendance is about merit and that getting into a great college is a reward for a kid who busts their ass in high school. NYU and USC are the last who want to admit that it's really about the ability to pay

Not all Americans pretend that. I couldn’t afford the best school I could get into either. That’s normal! Some schools have always been out of reach for most people, no matter their “merit.” I’m sorry you bought into the myth so long but it’s time to let it go.

25 years ago I vividly recall our salutatorian getting into Vanderbilt (and possibly Brown) and her family couldn't afford either, so she went to the state flagship. Nobody cared or cried about it. This is hardly a new phenom.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

Hardworking taxpaying middle class should be able to take some vacations, renovate old kitchen and at the same time should be able to send kids to whatever schools they are well qualified without losing arms and legs.

NYU and USC are rich kid schools. They give very little financial aid to anyone.

Honestly, so what? Why does this trigger people? It's not the end of the world if you can't afford two out of the thousands of four-year universities in the U.S. It's frankly a bit whiny and entitled (and delusional) to think your teen should be able to waltz in anywhere if you don't have the bucks to pay. I mean, can they just waltz into Sidwell too? Obviously not.

Because Americans, and American Universities like to pretend that college attendance is about merit and that getting into a great college is a reward for a kid who busts their ass in high school. NYU and USC are the last who want to admit that it's really about the ability to pay

Not all Americans pretend that. I couldn’t afford the best school I could get into either. That’s normal! Some schools have always been out of reach for most people, no matter their “merit.” I’m sorry you bought into the myth so long but it’s time to let it go.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

Hardworking taxpaying middle class should be able to take some vacations, renovate old kitchen and at the same time should be able to send kids to whatever schools they are well qualified without losing arms and legs.

NYU and USC are rich kid schools. They give very little financial aid to anyone.

Honestly, so what? Why does this trigger people? It's not the end of the world if you can't afford two out of the thousands of four-year universities in the U.S. It's frankly a bit whiny and entitled (and delusional) to think your teen should be able to waltz in anywhere if you don't have the bucks to pay. I mean, can they just waltz into Sidwell too? Obviously not.

Because Americans, and American Universities like to pretend that college attendance is about merit and that getting into a great college is a reward for a kid who busts their ass in high school. NYU and USC are the last who want to admit that it's really about the ability to pay

You can bust your butt and get in, sure, but who says it's supposed to be free or cheap? Your kid can also bust their butt k-8th and get into Sidwell or Exeter, but unless you can pay, they can't go. How is this news to anyone or some horrific indictment of higher ed? You're all being super dramatic for no reason. Who freakin' cares.

Better job opportunities out of top schools.

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Anonymous wrote:If you take simple vacations, skip Starbucks, and don't renovate your kitchen, you can save to pay for four years at a school like this for multiple kids. There is no such thing as the donut hole.

Just ask DCUM, they'll tell you.

I have done all that and more (drive 15 yr old cars, cheap clothes, no restaurants, small house, …) so we can save for retirement and now we are expected to blow our life savings if kids want to attend the selective colleges.

Nobody is forcing you to send your kid to ritzy private universities ranked 20 to 30. They can get the same degree for much cheaper at more economical schools, many which may offer some merit as well to sweeten the deal. Obviously USC and NYU have plenty of people willing to pay, so why do you care how they blow their money? Move on and stop wasting mindshare on such trivial perceived slights.