I just spoke to a super liberal guy about what Allen said about the crash. That person who would have previously voted for Allen said “F$$$ that guy”

Every last shred of any consideration for Charles Allen gone. He is a despicable monster. He’s not just incompetent, he’s dangerous for DC

None of the stakeholders are 100% credible re: their assertions of how we got here.

Jeff, any chance you could embed this graphic?

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636795338706288641

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

And his rabid support of Elissa Silverman, and his very confident assertions that she would win reelection easily when the truth was that she had become very problematic -- going beyond the ethics issues against her -- and voters recognized that.

She was ultimately found innocent on all of the issues.

So what? DC voters have a long history of reelecting officials with legal/ethics issues (Barry, Evans, Graham, etc. etc. etc.) far more troublesome than the assertions lodged against Silverman, who was so weak an incumbent that she couldn't overcome hers. Perhaps if she had done her job better and crafted better relationships with voters (particularly Black and Brown voters, who had a host of problems with her patronizing attitude toward them), she'd still have a job.

Wait, is the implication that Allen is not patronizing? I find him excruciatingly patronizing

I have heard them both and Allen is better. He is extremely responsive in email to his consistituents.

Unless they are victims of violent crimes.

If you have a broken garbage can, Charles Allen is your guy. If you've been carjacked, you might want to look elsewhere because he doesn't give a damn, it's just part of city living in his eyes.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

And his rabid support of Elissa Silverman, and his very confident assertions that she would win reelection easily when the truth was that she had become very problematic -- going beyond the ethics issues against her -- and voters recognized that.

She was ultimately found innocent on all of the issues.

Guilty of being a terrible Councilmember (and an especially poor judge of staff hires) and the voters responded.
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He refuses to say “crime”. He ignores tough questions (look at the guy on Twitter asking him the same question each day — what metrics of success for the proposed criminal law bill — he’s on day 20+ of no response).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

And his rabid support of Elissa Silverman, and his very confident assertions that she would win reelection easily when the truth was that she had become very problematic -- going beyond the ethics issues against her -- and voters recognized that.

She was ultimately found innocent on all of the issues.

So what? DC voters have a long history of reelecting officials with legal/ethics issues (Barry, Evans, Graham, etc. etc. etc.) far more troublesome than the assertions lodged against Silverman, who was so weak an incumbent that she couldn't overcome hers. Perhaps if she had done her job better and crafted better relationships with voters (particularly Black and Brown voters, who had a host of problems with her patronizing attitude toward them), she'd still have a job.

Wait, is the implication that Allen is not patronizing? I find him excruciatingly patronizing

I have heard them both and Allen is better. He is extremely responsive in email to his consistituents.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

And his rabid support of Elissa Silverman, and his very confident assertions that she would win reelection easily when the truth was that she had become very problematic -- going beyond the ethics issues against her -- and voters recognized that.

She was ultimately found innocent on all of the issues.

So what? DC voters have a long history of reelecting officials with legal/ethics issues (Barry, Evans, Graham, etc. etc. etc.) far more troublesome than the assertions lodged against Silverman, who was so weak an incumbent that she couldn't overcome hers. Perhaps if she had done her job better and crafted better relationships with voters (particularly Black and Brown voters, who had a host of problems with her patronizing attitude toward them), she'd still have a job.

She was soooo patronizing in public forums. I couldn’t believe it. I’m a terrible public speaker and even I could have done better.

At this point DC Council has performed so badly that we need to rethink the governance

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

And his rabid support of Elissa Silverman, and his very confident assertions that she would win reelection easily when the truth was that she had become very problematic -- going beyond the ethics issues against her -- and voters recognized that.

She was ultimately found innocent on all of the issues.

So what? DC voters have a long history of reelecting officials with legal/ethics issues (Barry, Evans, Graham, etc. etc. etc.) far more troublesome than the assertions lodged against Silverman, who was so weak an incumbent that she couldn't overcome hers. Perhaps if she had done her job better and crafted better relationships with voters (particularly Black and Brown voters, who had a host of problems with her patronizing attitude toward them), she'd still have a job.

Wait, is the implication that Allen is not patronizing? I find him excruciatingly patronizing

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I'm glad that we agree that the MPD deserves some of the blame for the crime situation in DC. Given the similarity of our positions, I am surprised that you singled me out for criticism (which has proven invalid in any case). As for Charles Allen, he is not my Council Member and, as such, I don't follow him that closely. But, given that I have never encountered a politician with whom I was in complete agreement, I am sure there are positions he holds with which I disagree. But, generally, I think he is doing a terrific job.

I still wonder how much of the policing slowdown is intentional and by design. 10% drop in staffing and resourcing and they shriek "THEY DEFUNDED THE POLICE" as if MPD has been completely gutted and I wonder if the drop in policing is intended to punish us and make us call for massively funding MPD and not questioning or criticizing their methods.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

And his rabid support of Elissa Silverman, and his very confident assertions that she would win reelection easily when the truth was that she had become very problematic -- going beyond the ethics issues against her -- and voters recognized that.

She was ultimately found innocent on all of the issues.

So what? DC voters have a long history of reelecting officials with legal/ethics issues (Barry, Evans, Graham, etc. etc. etc.) far more troublesome than the assertions lodged against Silverman, who was so weak an incumbent that she couldn't overcome hers. Perhaps if she had done her job better and crafted better relationships with voters (particularly Black and Brown voters, who had a host of problems with her patronizing attitude toward them), she'd still have a job.

There may be strategic reasons USAO may not want to identify deficiencies re: an identified officer's conduct, veracity, evidence including that where camera footage creates opportunities to challenge by defense, rule breaking, etc in an email for Brady List reasons. Increasing the component of USAO in training cadets and in retraining generally would not pose this issue.

For those unfamiliar:

Brady list means any system, index, list, or other record containing the names of peace officers whose personnel files are likely to contain evidence of dishonesty or bias, which is maintained by a prosecutorial agency or office in accordance with the holding in Brady v. Maryland

The change in rates tracks closely with the time body cams were started in DC, I think that assertion is an important one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

And his rabid support of Elissa Silverman, and his very confident assertions that she would win reelection easily when the truth was that she had become very problematic -- going beyond the ethics issues against her -- and voters recognized that.

She was ultimately found innocent on all of the issues.