Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 07:05     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very poor news article. It should not have interviewed a Wakefield parent, since it was not at Wakefield.


Does anyone know which school these kids go to?

I haven’t seen a single article or school announcement about the incident that details the school nor how the children are doing, etc.


This has a video clip from Fox 5. Evidently there was another community meeting at WL. Parents who were interviewed said the school had not notified parents regarding the overdoses. Fox 5 also reported that the condition of the children remains unknown.

Outrageous that details of this very serious public safety issue isn’t being communicated to anyone.

https://news.yahoo.com/arlington-teens-treated-possible-overdoses-144723063.html
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 06:55     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:Very poor news article. It should not have interviewed a Wakefield parent, since it was not at Wakefield.


Does anyone know which school these kids go to?

I haven’t seen a single article or school announcement about the incident that details the school nor how the children are doing, etc.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 21:26     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Very poor news article. It should not have interviewed a Wakefield parent, since it was not at Wakefield.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 20:13     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents of WL kids: did the high school announce anything or address the issue of the ODs with the WL students skipping school yesterday---or the drinking during school hours?

I'm curious if anything is being said to address all of these crises going on. Or if anything is planned in the future in terms of prevention and safe reporting, more monitoring, etc.


Nothing was said about last week's incident. I'll have to wait until my kid comes home today to find out if anything was said about yesterday's incident.


So…if nothing was said by WL about the three kids nearly dying from a fentanyl overdose during school hours, albeit off-campus, are we sure the kids are from WL????


Are the kids from Wakefield?

[twitter]https://wjla.com/news/local/fentanyl-opioids-drugs-arlington-narcan-kids-treated-taken-to-hospital-overdosing-overdose-ballston-mall-police-virginia-dmv-dc-maryland-[/twitter]

Wakefield is where the community conversation was held
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 19:53     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents of WL kids: did the high school announce anything or address the issue of the ODs with the WL students skipping school yesterday---or the drinking during school hours?

I'm curious if anything is being said to address all of these crises going on. Or if anything is planned in the future in terms of prevention and safe reporting, more monitoring, etc.


Nothing was said about last week's incident. I'll have to wait until my kid comes home today to find out if anything was said about yesterday's incident.


So…if nothing was said by WL about the three kids nearly dying from a fentanyl overdose during school hours, albeit off-campus, are we sure the kids are from WL????


Are the kids from Wakefield?

[twitter]https://wjla.com/news/local/fentanyl-opioids-drugs-arlington-narcan-kids-treated-taken-to-hospital-overdosing-overdose-ballston-mall-police-virginia-dmv-dc-maryland-[/twitter]
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 19:48     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents of WL kids: did the high school announce anything or address the issue of the ODs with the WL students skipping school yesterday---or the drinking during school hours?

I'm curious if anything is being said to address all of these crises going on. Or if anything is planned in the future in terms of prevention and safe reporting, more monitoring, etc.


Nothing was said about last week's incident. I'll have to wait until my kid comes home today to find out if anything was said about yesterday's incident.


So…if nothing was said by WL about the three kids nearly dying from a fentanyl overdose during school hours, albeit off-campus, are we sure the kids are from WL????
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 16:44     Subject: another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:I love this place. Blame the schools when the issues clearly begin at home.

Schools are not here to parent your kids.


EXACTLY.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 14:32     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:How do parents who’d have kids who do this stuff afford Arlington?


You win for the most racist comment of the day.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 14:11     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:Parents of WL kids: did the high school announce anything or address the issue of the ODs with the WL students skipping school yesterday---or the drinking during school hours?

I'm curious if anything is being said to address all of these crises going on. Or if anything is planned in the future in terms of prevention and safe reporting, more monitoring, etc.


Nothing was said about last week's incident. I'll have to wait until my kid comes home today to find out if anything was said about yesterday's incident.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 12:04     Subject: another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:I love this place. Blame the schools when the issues clearly begin at home.

Schools are not here to parent your kids.


The wisteria around here is fantastic. Oh, I'm rich, I'm protected. No, you are not. My kids don't skip school. Well, maybe they just are extra savvy. This can only happen to them. You are them ffs.

Didn't read the tread but remember, for those of you who's kids take adhd meds or depression or anxiety meds, those too get laced so tell you kids not to take anybody's drug. Even if it look slike yours.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 11:53     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Parents of WL kids: did the high school announce anything or address the issue of the ODs with the WL students skipping school yesterday---or the drinking during school hours?

I'm curious if anything is being said to address all of these crises going on. Or if anything is planned in the future in terms of prevention and safe reporting, more monitoring, etc.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 11:20     Subject: Re:another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WL (N Arlington) and Wakefield are very diverse. Your kids would have been one of many of their kind. Christ


Yorktown has a drug problem too

No one can name a high school that doesn’t have a drug problem. Our kids our in crisis.

Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 09:15     Subject: another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Guys. Yes fentanyl is scary but believing ever rumor that comes out about fentanyl is not a way to get across to your kids not to try drugs. Your kid is going to dismiss that because it all sounds ridiculous. Just like I dismissed similar statements about other drugs in the 90s. Learn the facts and be real with your kids.

Also alcohol is more of a gateway drug than Marijuana so be open with your kids about that too.

And for those who blame it on a certain race or income class. I am white. I hade straight As, top of my class in HS, college, and law school. I am an addict (sober since 2003). No one is immune.

What sounds ridiculous?


Other posters already pointed them out. But stuff like police officers ODing from being in the same room or touching one single granule. Or candy being laced with drugs. And I even put Marijuana laced with fent on this list because the sources have been sketchy.

Yes, fentanyl is scary and can be deadly but we have to be honest with kids and not jump to these rumors because it will turn them off from listening at all.

Sorry, but I personally witnessed the video where a cop keeled over due to fentanyl that she had not touched. Thanks to narcan, a colleague saved her life. It’s not a myth. Maybe you can find it if you want to.


You do realize doctors and pharmacists are around fent every day. I gave it to my mom when she was dying. Videos can be faked or not be accurate.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/media/fentanyl-exposures-reliable-sources/index.html

Wen explained that opioids "are not well-absorbed through the skin except through prolonged exposure" and, outside biowarfare situations, are "not aerosolized and inhaled through the air."

Data also suggests that first responders featured in such stories have likely not suffered a fentanyl overdose. A 2021 research paper published in the International Journal of Drug Policy said the symptoms described in hundreds of accounts of first responders who reportedly overdosed on opioids tend to match the symptoms of panic or anxiety attacks, rather than those associated with fentanyl overdoses. And, critically, it found there are no confirmed cases of an officer having an overdose after touching fentanyl.

Reports involving first responders who sought medical care following exposure generally did not find opioids in their system," Wen said. "Much of the time, their symptoms were consistent with panic attacks (i.e. shortness of breath manifesting as gasping for breath--versus opioid overdose results in loss of consciousness that then depresses respiration)."

Another article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html

Last month, a 33-year-old clinical toxicologist and emergency-medicine pharmacist named Ryan Feldman co-published a case study about the time he accidentally spilled a mammoth dose of pure liquid fentanyl all over himself at work; he simply washed it off, with no adverse effects.

It’s not that the symptoms seen on video are feigned. Some psychologists suggest a kind of “mass psychogenic illness” is afoot, or a form of conversion disorder — neurological symptoms without a clear physical cause — or, potentially, simple panic attacks. Police officers have been told, by authorities including the Drug Enforcement Administration, that microscopic amounts of fentanyl can be deadly; they are taught to fear this substance. Their bodies may react accordingly, exhibiting symptoms, like rapid breathing, that are indicative of distress and panic. (Fentanyl produces the exact opposite effect; high doses result in slow and shallow breaths.)





Yes, this here.

Seriously, some of the law enforcement personnel have had full blown panic attacks. We've seen it in the ER. And like the PP wrote, the symptoms are very different.

This is all distracting from what the message should be:

Yes, one pill can kill! (Don't ingest anything that is not prescribed to you, not in a factory sealed package from the pharmacy/store.)
But it is safe to render first aid, give Narcan, give chest compressions. (Wash your hands well, that is enough!)
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2023 07:46     Subject: another near fatal overdose(s) for APS..3/1/23

I love this place. Blame the schools when the issues clearly begin at home.

Schools are not here to parent your kids.