Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 08:01     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

I would like to see Montgomery county reach out to their council members and push back against us. If anybody has been paying attention to crime, carjackings, car theft, this bill is going to accelerate crime in the county.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 08:00     Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:According to Adam Pugnucco- they offered the bill up to the rest of the council and couldnt get anyone else to sign on as co-sponsors. That makes me think it’s DOA.

Adam Pagnucco has a disturbing pattern of heavily criticizing Black politicians and politicians who garner significant Black support in Montgomery County. While at the same time excusing and promoting white politicians who have engaged in unethical behavior. It’s important to keep in mind that he seems to have an issue with Black people when you read his posts. Not to say that this bill will pass, it won’t.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 07:51     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is Jawando and Mink’s long term game plan? Jawando ran for like 20 offices before finally winning something.


rumor has it he wants to run for Cardin’s Senate seat if Cardin retires

Everyone wants to run for Cardin’s seat. Not exactly breaking news.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2023 07:45     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:What is Jawando and Mink’s long term game plan? Jawando ran for like 20 offices before finally winning something.


rumor has it he wants to run for Cardin’s Senate seat if Cardin retires
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 18:04     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:What is Jawando and Mink’s long term game plan? Jawando ran for like 20 offices before finally winning something.


To stay relevant in a world where they shouldn't be relevant
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 17:59     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

What is Jawando and Mink’s long term game plan? Jawando ran for like 20 offices before finally winning something.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 17:50     Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

For being one of the most educated counties in the country, moco really votes for morons
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:51     Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:All I knew about the SRO debate is every single Principal wanted them.

And there arent exactly a lot of white males as principals in MCPS. It's a super diverse group, and they unianimously thought the SROs did a good job and were needed.


The council decided to ignore the principals, the very people who worked directly with SROs. They’ll ignore county voices on this, as well. People are calling for more enforcement, not less. This is severely misguided.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:49     Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

All I knew about the SRO debate is every single Principal wanted them.

And there arent exactly a lot of white males as principals in MCPS. It's a super diverse group, and they unianimously thought the SROs did a good job and were needed.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:45     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:How exactly does preventing cops from pulling people over who don't have functional cars address racial disparities?

It makes it more likely to encourage everyone not to maintain their vehicles because laws won't be enforced. It will damage the environment because no one has to get their tags updated that would require up to date emissions and maintenance of your car. So much more hazardous for pedestrians and other drivers when you can driver around now with no functional headlights or tail lights.

As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. No one these days is capable do thinking in complex nuanced terms, but only in binary. Everything is good or bad with no room for nuance. Maybe racial disparities in traffic stops are bad, but that doesn't mean all traffic stops are bad and banning cops from pulling over cars that don't have headlights seems like a really asinine idea that does nothing to address racial disparities. Of course using more than two brain cells to come up with more targeted policy to reduce racial disparities in traffic stops would be far too much to ask of this council.


I feel he’s gone a step too far this time. This bill simply doesn’t make sense, and it seems to contradict county efforts to improve road and pedestrian safety. There’s simply no logic behind this one. None.

I can’t imagine it will pass. In the bizarre chance it does, I give it a short time before it is reversed. It reminds me of his call to remove SROs, just to see them reinstated a short time later.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:39     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

How exactly does preventing cops from pulling people over who don't have functional cars address racial disparities?

It makes it more likely to encourage everyone not to maintain their vehicles because laws won't be enforced. It will damage the environment because no one has to get their tags updated that would require up to date emissions and maintenance of your car. So much more hazardous for pedestrians and other drivers when you can driver around now with no functional headlights or tail lights.

As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. No one these days is capable do thinking in complex nuanced terms, but only in binary. Everything is good or bad with no room for nuance. Maybe racial disparities in traffic stops are bad, but that doesn't mean all traffic stops are bad and banning cops from pulling over cars that don't have headlights seems like a really asinine idea that does nothing to address racial disparities. Of course using more than two brain cells to come up with more targeted policy to reduce racial disparities in traffic stops would be far too much to ask of this council.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 16:10     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Jawando is trying to imply white supremacy but manipulating thr data. Note he compares to whites and not Asians. I guarantee you whites get pulled over more than Asians both my number and per capita https://twitter.com/cmjawando/status/1630591116025159681?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 10:09     Subject: Re:Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I dont think it will pass. Not with the current uptick in crime.

The fact that they floated the bill to the other council members and couldnt get any other sponsors shows where the rest of the council is leaning on this IMO
democrats are insane. There’s an uptick in crime in dc and what do Dems do? Lower penalties for violent crime


And congress embarrassed them for their own goal.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 10:05     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It will pass.


Not a chance. Logic will prevail this time. I’m sure of it.
sarcasm ?


No. Hope? I can’t allow myself to accept that people are overwhelmingly this short-sighted.
they are but I wouldn’t say short sighted. They simply don’t care. Equity is more important than safety
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2023 09:55     Subject: Mink and Jawando propose to limit pull over offenses in Moco

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It will pass.


Not a chance. Logic will prevail this time. I’m sure of it.
sarcasm ?


No. Hope? I can’t allow myself to accept that people are overwhelmingly this short-sighted.