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Anonymous wrote:Yes, 5pm Friday 2/10/2023!
Good luck all students!

Anonymous wrote:Are we thinking 5 pm for announcements to come out today?

Also said Accepted students will be mailed a letter.....and OF COURSE....my normal USPS Informed Delivery email (that shows mail that will come to my house each day) is mysteriously absent in my emails today! It normally comes before 8am and I thought I might get an early tipoff if they mailed early enough to arrive on announcement day.

Good luck all!

There's no way they have 30,000 letters printed and mailed between Wednesday and today. Even if they did, there's certainly no way the USPS in its current state is more efficient than the online notification.

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See chart at 22:00 -
https://youtu.be/Hw8MRaw3i98

2002 Admit rates: W&M 35%, UVA 39%
2022 Admit rates: W&M 33&, UVA 19%

Huge change for UVA

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- I’m surprised she got into W&M. A few years ago she probably wouldn’t have. It’s gotten easier.

- Can you show us some data to prove that W&M, or any other reputable college, has become LESS selective in recent years?
Because I seriously doubt it.


- Well, maybe not easier, but until the 2010s William & Mary was a more difficult admit than UVA - especially for girls. Not anymore. It’s been reversed.

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- I’m surprised she got into W&M. A few years ago she probably wouldn’t have. It’s gotten easier.

- Can you show us some data to prove that W&M, or any other reputable college, has become LESS selective in recent years?
Because I seriously doubt it.


- Well, maybe not easier, but until the 2010s William & Mary was a more difficult admit than UVA - especially for girls. Not anymore. It’s been reversed.

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers are inline with expectations based on the known number of apps this year. Until/unless UVA increases the capacity of the school the acceptance numbers will continue to decline as more applications are sent every year with a limited number of available seats. It's why many kids just self select to other schools right from the get go.

What does this mean?

Take my kid. High ACT, but low freshman year grades, so GPA was in the 25%. And she strongly specialized in humanities. She was likely top 5% in her class on the humanities side. But, no STEM APs and took standard Calc, not AP. UVA wants most rigorous classes across the 5, core areas. She never seriously considered UVA because she knew it was a huge long shot. Instead, she did ED at WM (and was admitted), B/c WM likes quirky kids and specialists. She self selected to WM and never applied to UVA— because she knew she wouldn’t get in.

Many kids in the top 20% of the class do this— don’t even bother with UVA because their transcript isn’t perfect. They don’t show up in the rejection numbers.

I’m surprised she got into W&M. A few years ago she probably wouldn’t have. It’s gotten easier.

Can you show us some data to prove that W&M, or any other reputable college, has become LESS selective in recent years?
Because I seriously doubt it.

Well, maybe not easier, but until the 2010s William & Mary was a more difficult admit than UVA - especially for girls. Not anymore. It’s been reversed.

Data please?
Thank you!!!

Anonymous wrote:Can you guys start another UVA vs. W&M thread and argue tht out over there? Looking here for some actually discussion on Virginia's decisions about to come out today. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers are inline with expectations based on the known number of apps this year. Until/unless UVA increases the capacity of the school the acceptance numbers will continue to decline as more applications are sent every year with a limited number of available seats. It's why many kids just self select to other schools right from the get go.

What does this mean?

Take my kid. High ACT, but low freshman year grades, so GPA was in the 25%. And she strongly specialized in humanities. She was likely top 5% in her class on the humanities side. But, no STEM APs and took standard Calc, not AP. UVA wants most rigorous classes across the 5, core areas. She never seriously considered UVA because she knew it was a huge long shot. Instead, she did ED at WM (and was admitted), B/c WM likes quirky kids and specialists. She self selected to WM and never applied to UVA— because she knew she wouldn’t get in.

Many kids in the top 20% of the class do this— don’t even bother with UVA because their transcript isn’t perfect. They don’t show up in the rejection numbers.

I’m surprised she got into W&M. A few years ago she probably wouldn’t have. It’s gotten easier.

Can you show us some data to prove that W&M, or any other reputable college, has become LESS selective in recent years?
Because I seriously doubt it.

You can if you go to SCHEV and see the quality of student per GPA and test score of enrolled students last year across the 75th percentile, mean and 25th percentile. It all but two categories the enrolled UVA students are higher. But since you sound snarky I’m not going to do that work for you.

DP
No skin in this game as my kid got into both but chose to attend OOS. So, I actually did what you said and cannot see an earth-shattering difference. Yes they are a bit higher, but it is not like a sea of a difference.
Is this so you can retain your feeling of superiority?

UVA:
SAT (75/Median/25) - 1520-/1470/1400
ACT (75/Median/25) - 34/33/32
GPA (75/Median/25) - 4.53/4.40/4.24

W&M
SAT (75/Median/25) - 1520/1460/1375
ACT (75/Median/25) - 34/33/32
GPA (75/Median/25) - 4.51/4.33/4.15

UVA’s stats ARE higher in five out of the nine categories. A year ago it was seven out of 9 but that’s only because the reported numbers keep going up. As the number of quality applicants increase each year, and test optional continues (allows lower scoring students who would not submit get accepted and enrolled) the stats at all schools will continue to climb as you see here.

What I hear is: We cannot be equal! One has to be better and I will nitpick and blow up any differences in my favor to show you into your lowly place. I rank supreme!

Seems many Virginians are unable to take pride in the good universities we are lucky to have in this state. All of them.

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers are inline with expectations based on the known number of apps this year. Until/unless UVA increases the capacity of the school the acceptance numbers will continue to decline as more applications are sent every year with a limited number of available seats. It's why many kids just self select to other schools right from the get go.

What does this mean?

Take my kid. High ACT, but low freshman year grades, so GPA was in the 25%. And she strongly specialized in humanities. She was likely top 5% in her class on the humanities side. But, no STEM APs and took standard Calc, not AP. UVA wants most rigorous classes across the 5, core areas. She never seriously considered UVA because she knew it was a huge long shot. Instead, she did ED at WM (and was admitted), B/c WM likes quirky kids and specialists. She self selected to WM and never applied to UVA— because she knew she wouldn’t get in.

Many kids in the top 20% of the class do this— don’t even bother with UVA because their transcript isn’t perfect. They don’t show up in the rejection numbers.

I’m surprised she got into W&M. A few years ago she probably wouldn’t have. It’s gotten easier.

Can you show us some data to prove that W&M, or any other reputable college, has become LESS selective in recent years?
Because I seriously doubt it.

Well, maybe not easier, but until the 2010s William & Mary was a more difficult admit than UVA - especially for girls. Not anymore. It’s been reversed.

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers are inline with expectations based on the known number of apps this year. Until/unless UVA increases the capacity of the school the acceptance numbers will continue to decline as more applications are sent every year with a limited number of available seats. It's why many kids just self select to other schools right from the get go.

What does this mean?

Take my kid. High ACT, but low freshman year grades, so GPA was in the 25%. And she strongly specialized in humanities. She was likely top 5% in her class on the humanities side. But, no STEM APs and took standard Calc, not AP. UVA wants most rigorous classes across the 5, core areas. She never seriously considered UVA because she knew it was a huge long shot. Instead, she did ED at WM (and was admitted), B/c WM likes quirky kids and specialists. She self selected to WM and never applied to UVA— because she knew she wouldn’t get in.

Many kids in the top 20% of the class do this— don’t even bother with UVA because their transcript isn’t perfect. They don’t show up in the rejection numbers.

I’m surprised she got into W&M. A few years ago she probably wouldn’t have. It’s gotten easier.

Can you show us some data to prove that W&M, or any other reputable college, has become LESS selective in recent years?
Because I seriously doubt it.