Anonymous wrote:TJ has the best college acceptances in the country in pure numbers. About 30% to top 25, about 80% to top 35 and they receive one of the most merit based scholarships about $180,000 per student on average including some universities that do not give out much merit scholarships to OOS students.

Seems inflated. Can you share the source for these numbers please?

Anonymous wrote:TJ has the best college acceptances in the country in pure numbers. About 30% to top 25, about 80% to top 35 and they receive one of the most merit based scholarships about $180,000 per student on average including some universities that do not give out much merit scholarships to OOS students.

And yet your college prospects would be better if you stay at your home school....go figure.

TJ has the best college acceptances in the country in pure numbers. About 30% to top 25, about 80% to top 35 and they receive one of the most merit based scholarships about $180,000 per student on average including some universities that do not give out much merit scholarships to OOS students.

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I'm not sure most TJ kids "end up where they're supposed to be." In 7th grade, most of these future-TJ kids were far above their peers in terms of STEM and had MIT et al. in their sights. Half of them ended up being less-than-average TJ kids (there has to be a bottom 250) who then went to less prestigious schools. It's impossible to know where these kids would have landed had they stayed at their home school. Certainly, a 1480 SAT valedictorian from a rural school has a much better chance of getting into HYPSM than that same student who's ranked 300+ at TJ?

That said, most TJ students probably are more successful in college given that they've doing college-level work since 9th grade.

I think the PP meant to say "TJ kids end up where they would have even if they had not gone to TJ". Where they are supposed to have ended up is affected by too many external factors outside the control of the student, starting with our corrupt higher ed systems..

PP here. My reply addressed that interpretation. I'm saying that the bottom half of TJ kids (by whatever arbitrary ranking) would end up at a higher ranked school if they stayed at their base high school where their 1480 SAT would stand out. TJ doesn't get kids into better colleges - about half of the students end up at worse colleges than their counterfactual twin back at the base high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Please do not go to TJ because of college admissions. Yes, 25% of the class goes to Top 20 schools. But the 4 years is brutal. Been there, done that. DC is at a top 15 school and very happy, but can honestly say I think DC would have ended up there no matter where DC went to HS.

As a current TJ parent I agree. Most TJ kids will end up where they are supposed to college admission wise whether they went to TJ or not. A lot happens to a kid between when they are 14yrs old to when they are 17+ yrs old. Before you decide to send your kids to TJ take account of their maturity level. A child can be performing at an advanced level academically but may not be mature enough to juggle TJ workload, teen issues and the intense nature of the environment they will be in at TJ. Overall our experience is mixed. We are happy with the group of kids and education or DC has received but we were unaware how much coping skills and maturity they needed.

I'm not sure most TJ kids "end up where they're supposed to be." In 7th grade, most of these future-TJ kids were far above their peers in terms of STEM and had MIT et al. in their sights. Half of them ended up being less-than-average TJ kids (there has to be a bottom 250) who then went to less prestigious schools. It's impossible to know where these kids would have landed had they stayed at their home school. Certainly, a 1480 SAT valedictorian from a rural school has a much better chance of getting into HYPSM than that same student who's ranked 300+ at TJ?

That said, most TJ students probably are more successful in college given that they've doing college-level work since 9th grade.

I think the PP meant to say "TJ kids end up where they would have even if they had not gone to TJ". Where they are supposed to have ended up is affected by too many external factors outside the control of the student, starting with our corrupt higher ed systems..

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Anonymous wrote:Please do not go to TJ because of college admissions. Yes, 25% of the class goes to Top 20 schools. But the 4 years is brutal. Been there, done that. DC is at a top 15 school and very happy, but can honestly say I think DC would have ended up there no matter where DC went to HS.

As a current TJ parent I agree. Most TJ kids will end up where they are supposed to college admission wise whether they went to TJ or not. A lot happens to a kid between when they are 14yrs old to when they are 17+ yrs old. Before you decide to send your kids to TJ take account of their maturity level. A child can be performing at an advanced level academically but may not be mature enough to juggle TJ workload, teen issues and the intense nature of the environment they will be in at TJ. Overall our experience is mixed. We are happy with the group of kids and education or DC has received but we were unaware how much coping skills and maturity they needed.

I'm not sure most TJ kids "end up where they're supposed to be." In 7th grade, most of these future-TJ kids were far above their peers in terms of STEM and had MIT et al. in their sights. Half of them ended up being less-than-average TJ kids (there has to be a bottom 250) who then went to less prestigious schools. It's impossible to know where these kids would have landed had they stayed at their home school. Certainly, a 1480 SAT valedictorian from a rural school has a much better chance of getting into HYPSM than that same student who's ranked 300+ at TJ?

That said, most TJ students probably are more successful in college given that they've doing college-level work since 9th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Please do not go to TJ because of college admissions. Yes, 25% of the class goes to Top 20 schools. But the 4 years is brutal. Been there, done that. DC is at a top 15 school and very happy, but can honestly say I think DC would have ended up there no matter where DC went to HS.

As a current TJ parent I agree. Most TJ kids will end up where they are supposed to college admission wise whether they went to TJ or not. A lot happens to a kid between when they are 14yrs old to when they are 17+ yrs old. Before you decide to send your kids to TJ take account of their maturity level. A child can be performing at an advanced level academically but may not be mature enough to juggle TJ workload, teen issues and the intense nature of the environment they will be in at TJ. Overall our experience is mixed. We are happy with the group of kids and education or DC has received but we were unaware how much coping skills and maturity they needed.

My kid graduated 2 years ago. While he was there, we felt the same way.. not worth the stress. We also felt the education was not broad-based enough (too much focus on tech, but duh, it's a tech school). Now that they are in college, I think TJ was a huge blessing! Sure they could have gotten into the school they are attending now and may have done somewhat better but where TJ helped was with the ability to juggle multiple things, work hard, and stay on top of classes. In most classes, they are among the top kids academically and generally feel that "college is so much easier than high school". And this is from a kid who almost quit TJ in 9th grade because they expected kids to have done some reading before school started and had a couple of quizzes in week 1! Hang in there.

Anonymous wrote:Please do not go to TJ because of college admissions. Yes, 25% of the class goes to Top 20 schools. But the 4 years is brutal. Been there, done that. DC is at a top 15 school and very happy, but can honestly say I think DC would have ended up there no matter where DC went to HS.

As a current TJ parent I agree. Most TJ kids will end up where they are supposed to college admission wise whether they went to TJ or not. A lot happens to a kid between when they are 14yrs old to when they are 17+ yrs old. Before you decide to send your kids to TJ take account of their maturity level. A child can be performing at an advanced level academically but may not be mature enough to juggle TJ workload, teen issues and the intense nature of the environment they will be in at TJ. Overall our experience is mixed. We are happy with the group of kids and education or DC has received but we were unaware how much coping skills and maturity they needed.

Please do not go to TJ because of college admissions. Yes, 25% of the class goes to Top 20 schools. But the 4 years is brutal. Been there, done that. DC is at a top 15 school and very happy, but can honestly say I think DC would have ended up there no matter where DC went to HS.

Anonymous wrote:Much more likely for unhooked kid to be admitted to HYPSM(CalTech) from TJ compared with a large competitive non-magnet FCPS high school. TJ is an HYPSM, etc., feeder!

Much less likely to get in to UVA or VTech from TJ for students who are interested in those.

Slightly more likely to get into other t20/25 schools from TJ.

The difficulty is that quite a few Nova families have household income between $250,000 and $300,000. Do you stay at local school and go for cheap UVA and Tech or aim for and pay for HYPSM?

UVA in-state cost of attendance for Computer Science is 45K, not cheap at all. Georgia Tech OOS is around 50K. My kid would rather prefer Georgia Tech over UVA for CS.

Anonymous wrote:Much more likely for unhooked kid to be admitted to HYPSM(CalTech) from TJ compared with a large competitive non-magnet FCPS high school. TJ is an HYPSM, etc., feeder!

Much less likely to get in to UVA or VTech from TJ for students who are interested in those.

Slightly more likely to get into other t20/25 schools from TJ.

The difficulty is that quite a few Nova families have household income between $250,000 and $300,000. Do you stay at local school and go for cheap UVA and Tech or aim for and pay for HYPSM?

I've never gotten the impression VT is that big of a destination from TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Should be "Data never lie" but you miss the point - the thread was talking about superior scores. That is unsurprising when the admissions test is based on being able to score well on standardized tests. Deemphasizing that will mean lower scores in the future. Some are ok with that; some are not. But you can't ignore it and just cry about the "right wing."

Dear grammar police, last time I checked data can be used as singular or as plural. But sure I am the one who missed the point. Are you going to tell me I can't start a sentence with "But" next?

I am curious to know - is it your assumption, spite or some data driven research that makes you confident to say that in 2 years standardized score for TJ will decrease because the admission test was eliminated? If you are going to make a claim please back it up!

And BTW, I didn't cry about "right wing", I cried about "disinformation machine". Then again what is the difference between them these days anyways? Cheers!

You are bad at punctuation as well.

My bad, sorry I’m not a Wall Street journalist. But thanks for letting me know. Next time I will run my posts through ChatGPT and Grammarly just for you.

Much more likely for unhooked kid to be admitted to HYPSM(CalTech) from TJ compared with a large competitive non-magnet FCPS high school. TJ is an HYPSM, etc., feeder!

Much less likely to get in to UVA or VTech from TJ for students who are interested in those.

Slightly more likely to get into other t20/25 schools from TJ.

The difficulty is that quite a few Nova families have household income between $250,000 and $300,000. Do you stay at local school and go for cheap UVA and Tech or aim for and pay for HYPSM?

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Anonymous wrote:Should be "Data never lie" but you miss the point - the thread was talking about superior scores. That is unsurprising when the admissions test is based on being able to score well on standardized tests. Deemphasizing that will mean lower scores in the future. Some are ok with that; some are not. But you can't ignore it and just cry about the "right wing."

Dear grammar police, last time I checked data can be used as singular or as plural. But sure I am the one who missed the point. Are you going to tell me I can't start a sentence with "But" next?

I am curious to know - is it your assumption, spite or some data driven research that makes you confident to say that in 2 years standardized score for TJ will decrease because the admission test was eliminated? If you are going to make a claim please back it up!

And BTW, I didn't cry about "right wing", I cried about "disinformation machine". Then again what is the difference between them these days anyways? Cheers!

You are bad at punctuation as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear getting into UVA, VT is really tough from TJ. A large majority of TJ kids go out of state (with parents footing the bill!)

DS was a senior at TJ last year. Getting into UVA isn't easy for anyone, but I wouldn't say that TJ has it harder, unless you're expecting the vast majority of applicants to get in. DS and about 60 other kids from his year went from TJ to UVA just fine. VT was more of a problem: lots of kids got WL -> R at TJ, including DS and some of his friends. Only about a dozen TJ kids went to VT in the 2022 batch.

Out of state is probably the majority outcome for TJ kids, but the most common schools for TJ kids last year were apparently UVA (in-state), W+M (in-state), and UMD (out-of-state, but not that far and they're pretty generous with scholarships). Make of that what you will, I guess.

UVA ls a safety for most TJ grads except for the bottom 10 percent.

Do the numbers show that?