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Anonymous wrote:Although it was a bit overhyped imo (the best episode ever in the history of tv!), it was a pleasure to watch.

Don’t read the thread before you watch.

It was all over social media—best tv episode EVER!!!!

Weird. I only saw that here.

Np. I saw several articles to that effect on Facebook and Insta.

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Anonymous wrote:Although it was a bit overhyped imo (the best episode ever in the history of tv!), it was a pleasure to watch.

Don’t read the thread before you watch.

It was all over social media—best tv episode EVER!!!!

Weird. I only saw that here.

Anonymous wrote:Regarding game spoilers, maybe the OP of this thread could ask Jeff to add "(No Game Spoilers)" to the thread title to make clear that people can talk about aired episodes here but not speculative game spoilers, and if people want to create a thread with game spoilers they can. That's how we used to handle it on Television Without Pity when I used to post there about television shows, so that people who just wanted to watch and discuss a show as it aired could do so without being spoiled by people talking about source material, casting news, and other external information.

I really don't understand how game spoilers is different than Game of Thrones, HOTD, Fleishman series, or any other movie/show based on a book. Plus I think I am the only one who thinks Bill is alive based on the game so it's not even a spoiler, it's just a theory. I asked Jeff to add in WITH game spoilers, so if you all want to start a thread with no game info in it, you may. - OP.

Regarding game spoilers, maybe the OP of this thread could ask Jeff to add "(No Game Spoilers)" to the thread title to make clear that people can talk about aired episodes here but not speculative game spoilers, and if people want to create a thread with game spoilers they can. That's how we used to handle it on Television Without Pity when I used to post there about television shows, so that people who just wanted to watch and discuss a show as it aired could do so without being spoiled by people talking about source material, casting news, and other external information.

It was a really wonderful episode. I was minorly spoiled for it because I follow Tom & Lorenzo and they'd seen it before it aired and posted several non-spoilers but rave comments about it before it aired with stills from the episode so I knew from the jump base don context clues that Murray Bartlett was going to show up and also that presumably they would have a relationship. So I think that dulled the emotional impact of the storyline a bit for me but it was still incredibly well done. Murray Bartlett was wonderful as always but I loved what Nick Offerman did with that role, which was in many ways the same role he always plays except in a very unique situation and getting to see that character become vulnerable the way he does was so touching. I would love to see these two actors in something else again. Just really amazing. "You were my purpose." Gut wrenching but yes, Frank, romantic.

Also just want to echo the sentiment that sometimes storylines like this feel shoehorned in to deliver some requisite diversity to a show and this didn't at all. It felt totally organic and it did not feel possible to imagine this storyline with any other characters than this. It didn't feel like a "gay storyline" so much as it just felt entirely like Bill & Frank's story and their gender and sexual orientation was secondary to their unique characters and relationship.

I also liked that we are seeing this love story between them unfold in full before we ever find out exactly what the nature of Joel and Tess's relationship was, even after Tess has died. It feels like this episode and others will continue to hint at what was between them, and we will continue to get flashbacks to when Joel and Tess were together, throughout the season until it is more clear what they had between them. And I like that way of telling their story because it allows us to see it through Ellie's eyes a bit, as she is also on the outside looking in, but unlike Ellie, we are also getting a Birdseye view via a parallel storyline like this that likely has some relationship to Joel and Tess (as is made clear in the scenes between the four of them and also in Bill's note to Joel, where it is made clear that there are parallels between Bill and Joel though also clear differences that I think bother Joel and he doesn't want to think about them).

Anyway, if this episode doesn't sell you on this show, not sure what will.

I'm a huge fan of the Walking Dead fan (Glenn my heart) - but just based on this last episode alone (and we're only 3 in!) - I would rank it better than TWD. So well done.

That was some wonderful TV. I kept waiting for something to go wrong, or for something to be not as it seemed, but it just kept being beautiful and loving and sweet.

This show is goooooooooood.

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Anonymous wrote:Although it was a bit overhyped imo (the best episode ever in the history of tv!), it was a pleasure to watch.

Don’t read the thread before you watch.

It was all over social media—best tv episode EVER!!!!

Anonymous wrote:Although it was a bit overhyped imo (the best episode ever in the history of tv!), it was a pleasure to watch.

Don’t read the thread before you watch.

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t post spoilers based on the game— even if they may not be actual spoilers since there will be differences.

If you want to discuss ways the show has been different til now that’s one thing but posting spoilers about future eps based on what you know about the game is not cool.

+1

Not cool.

Although it was a bit overhyped imo (the best episode ever in the history of tv!), it was a pleasure to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:I loved it. I knew nothing of this video game going in, and this was an amazing episode of television, probably up there with Ozymandias.

Same PP. I'm still thinking about it and Murray Bartlett. He's been in so many great things the past year or 2 - White Lotus, Chippendales, Physical. He is just so good. He and Nick Offerman played off each other so well. It was so good.

DP - OMG!!! I knew he looked familiar but had no clue he was the same guy from White Lotus! Mind Blown!

I’ve only seen him in White Lotus, Chippendales, and this, but I swear he looks completely different in every show he’s in. I pride myself on having a mini-IMDB in my head (can recognize actors and name where else they’ve appeared), but he stumps me every time.

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Anonymous wrote:I loved it. I knew nothing of this video game going in, and this was an amazing episode of television, probably up there with Ozymandias.

Same PP. I'm still thinking about it and Murray Bartlett. He's been in so many great things the past year or 2 - White Lotus, Chippendales, Physical. He is just so good. He and Nick Offerman played off each other so well. It was so good.

DP - OMG!!! I knew he looked familiar but had no clue he was the same guy from White Lotus! Mind Blown!

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t post spoilers based on the game— even if they may not be actual spoilers since there will be differences.

If you want to discuss ways the show has been different til now that’s one thing but posting spoilers about future eps based on what you know about the game is not cool.

Get over it. You can start your own boring thread. People post spoilers based on books all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Last night's episode was strange....but Bill likely isn't dead. The show has been very good about following the game to a tee. Bill, Ellie and Joel work together in the game. We never see Bill split the pills in the bottle of wine, but the baggy of pills looks as full as when Frank gave it to him (how do they even have access to pharmaceuticals that haven't expired). We don't see him die or his body. Why would they introduce this character, played by a famous actor, only to kill him immediately? The whole thing was strange.

https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Bill

I haven't played the game so I can't comment on that, but is most definitely dead. He left a suicide note.

+1. According to that wiki, the Bill character arch ends with Ellie and Joel getting a truck and leaving town. That's exactly what happens on the show, so I don't see how/why they'd reintroduce the Bill character later.

+2 And they dramatically changed the story of Frank's death as well. Agree they changed both characters' ending while getting Joel and Ellie where they needed to go.