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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/07/new-college-florida-desantis-rufo/

New College is the honors college of Florida, and its progressive education and approach to life is on the verge of being squashed by DeSantis and his cronies.

Sad.

Hardly an honors college, or even great. Just another mid tier liberal arts college, with the notable fact being that it is VERY liberal in a state that is not. U of F is a much better school. (no dog in this fight, kids are in colleges elsewhere)

SAT Range*

1120-1340

ACT Range*

23-29

High School GPA*

3.9

Why? Why did you have to post this? Is it contributing to the conversation, or are you just trying to make someone feel bad? My child did not consider this school, but it is a well-respected school that continually gets kudos from college counselors and experts. It is one of the Fiske Guide's Best Buys for public schools (from a short list of 10 schools) in 2022 and 2023. It is consistently ranked one of the best public liberal arts colleges in the nation. I'm sorry it doesn't pass your snuff test, but it is an Honors College for Florida. It's also stunning and would be a great school for the right student (or could have been.... i"m not sure what will happen to it now). https://www.ncf.edu/about/campus-profile/

The school often attracts students who are outside the box: the high school student who was bored in school and didn't do as well as peers, but developed a new technology.The kid who spent all her time learning about XYZ in her spare time, and published OpEds in major newspapers instead of studying for her SAT. These are kids that care less about standardized testing and grades and more about really learning, even if it doesn't fit the usual mold. Lots of kids don't apply there because it's not what they want. But the kids who go, get in, and take advantage of the opportunities have a rich academic experience. Too rich. Some kids stayed for years continuing to take classes, putting off graduation. Yes, we kinda thought they were odd, but everyone still hung out with them. One became famous for helping to make certain substances available to people like veterans with PTSD, and getting legislation passed so they could be studies at places like Hopkins and University of California.

Intelligence, curiosity, and success are more than GPAs and SAT scores. I'm glad there are still some places that recognize that.

It wasn't all perfect. I had one friend who committed suicide, and another who had an affair with a professor. At that time, it's wasn't disallowed, but it certainly messed with her. But it was a special place and while it may have changed over the years, there are some keystone elements of the education that remain the same for New College --- things that are radically different from most places. Again, not for everyone. But, it sure was an eye opening blast to be there, hard work but work I truly wanted to do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/07/new-college-florida-desantis-rufo/

New College is the honors college of Florida, and its progressive education and approach to life is on the verge of being squashed by DeSantis and his cronies.

Sad.

Hardly an honors college, or even great. Just another mid tier liberal arts college, with the notable fact being that it is VERY liberal in a state that is not. U of F is a much better school. (no dog in this fight, kids are in colleges elsewhere)

SAT Range*

1120-1340

ACT Range*

23-29

High School GPA*

3.9

Why? Why did you have to post this? Is it contributing to the conversation, or are you just trying to make someone feel bad? My child did not consider this school, but it is a well-respected school that continually gets kudos from college counselors and experts. It is one of the Fiske Guide's Best Buys for public schools (from a short list of 10 schools) in 2022 and 2023. It is consistently ranked one of the best public liberal arts colleges in the nation. I'm sorry it doesn't pass your snuff test, but it is an Honors College for Florida. It's also stunning and would be a great school for the right student (or could have been.... i"m not sure what will happen to it now). https://www.ncf.edu/about/campus-profile/

Hillsdale SAT Range:

1340-1495

Hillsdale ACT Range:

30-34

High School GPA Range:

3.93-4.0

https://www.hillsdale.edu/about/college-profile/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/07/new-college-florida-desantis-rufo/

New College is the honors college of Florida, and its progressive education and approach to life is on the verge of being squashed by DeSantis and his cronies.

Sad.

Hardly an honors college, or even great. Just another mid tier liberal arts college, with the notable fact being that it is VERY liberal in a state that is not. U of F is a much better school. (no dog in this fight, kids are in colleges elsewhere)

SAT Range*

1120-1340

ACT Range*

23-29

High School GPA*

3.9

Why? Why did you have to post this? Is it contributing to the conversation, or are you just trying to make someone feel bad? My child did not consider this school, but it is a well-respected school that continually gets kudos from college counselors and experts. It is one of the Fiske Guide's Best Buys for public schools (from a short list of 10 schools) in 2022 and 2023. It is consistently ranked one of the best public liberal arts colleges in the nation. I'm sorry it doesn't pass your snuff test, but it is an Honors College for Florida. It's also stunning and would be a great school for the right student (or could have been.... i"m not sure what will happen to it now). https://www.ncf.edu/about/campus-profile/

Anonymous wrote:Re: the above post - those are nice memories, but there is no way “all sorts of ideas are batted around” and everyone is listened to. Not in 2023, when liberals will cancel anyone and everyone for disagreeing with them or presenting an opposing view.

The screeching by some on this thread is a great example of the over-emotional reactions by liberals. Why not see what happens before you start stomping your feet and howling at the sky?

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/07/new-college-florida-desantis-rufo/

New College is the honors college of Florida, and its progressive education and approach to life is on the verge of being squashed by DeSantis and his cronies.

Sad.

Hardly an honors college, or even great. Just another mid tier liberal arts college, with the notable fact being that it is VERY liberal in a state that is not. U of F is a much better school. (no dog in this fight, kids are in colleges elsewhere)

SAT Range*

1120-1340

ACT Range*

23-29

High School GPA*

3.9

Re: the above post - those are nice memories, but there is no way “all sorts of ideas are batted around” and everyone is listened to. Not in 2023, when liberals will cancel anyone and everyone for disagreeing with them or presenting an opposing view.

Having graduated from there, I can say that it earns the title of one of the “colleges that chance lives.”

It is progressive and experimental, yes. Our tiny student body was indeed eccentric, though there were completely typical college students, as well.
And liberal in the sense that everyone was accepted and everyone was allowed to say what they wanted. It wasn’t “woke” — it was simply inclusive and a place where all sorts of idea were batted around, not just politically liberal ideas. But my fellow classmates argued with precision and respect. One of my best friends from there is a physician with deeply religious and conservative political views, while I am firmly in the liberal democrat camp.

The point being we all listened to each other, we had different views but this was okay because it was approached from a sincere, thoughtful, intellectual, respectful angle.

If DeSantis turns it into a Hillsdale, that will be gone.

New College used to be private, by the way. But the nature of the school and its self-selecting student body made it expensive to run, and the state offered a deal where it would remain in charge and operate its own way, independently, if could be considered the state’s honors college.

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.

Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.

Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.

And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.

Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.

Oh come on! He’s not just carrying out some administrative duty and appointing qualified people to serve. Not to mention, four of the six people DeSantis appointed to serve on a board for a public state university don’t even live in that state. He’s got out-of-state “1776 Commission” extremists going back-and-forth to Florida for this.

Where is it stipulated that appointees must come from within the state? The governor can appoint anyone s/he wants. Once again, why are you not outraged and clutching your pearls that other states' governors are able to do the very same thing? Do you have any idea how ridiculous you look?

I never said it was required but it raises questions when you bring in out-of-state people to serve in state-based roles like this. My state university in Virginia has all in-state residents and alumni on their board. They know the institution and have ties to the community. That is who one would usually want serving on these boards, not outsiders who have their own agendas and personal interests.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.

Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.

Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.

And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.

Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.

Oh come on! He’s not just carrying out some administrative duty and appointing qualified people to serve. Not to mention, four of the six people DeSantis appointed to serve on a board for a public state university don’t even live in that state. He’s got out-of-state “1776 Commission” extremists going back-and-forth to Florida for this.

+1. This is 100% a political stunt. Which is the reason it's been picked up in the media. Which is the reason we're discussing it here. If he had made a mundane series of appointments it would not be news.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.

Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.

Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.

And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.

Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.

Just one example—seniors who vote for DeSantis when he blocks efforts to lower prescription costs and cuts support for nursing homes. Again, just one example but there are plenty more. Who exactly has DeSantis helped and improved life for while serving as Governor?

Liar, liar pants on fire, gnashing of teeth

Re : nursing homes
The current law requires that certified nursing assistants and licensed nurses provide a weekly average of 3.6 hours of direct care per patient per day. The bill would keep that 3.6-hour average, but it would allow time spent by other types of workers, such as physical therapists and occupational therapists, to be factored into the calculation.

And today re: prescription costs and pharmacy benefit managers

Also, DeSantis and state lawmakers in 2019 approved a plan to import cheaper prescription drugs from Canada for government programs such as Medicaid, prisons and facilities run by the Department of Children and Families.
As of early Thursday afternoon, detailed legislation had not been filed. But DeSantis said the proposal will include:

Preventing what DeSantis called “spread pricing,” which involves PBMs keeping the difference between what they are paid by health plans and what they pay to pharmacies.
Preventing a practice known as “clawbacks” by PBMs that can reduce money for pharmacies.
Barring PBMs from mandating that consumers use certain mail-order pharmacies.

THIS ^^. And so many more accomplishments, which were just posted. Funny that his detractors really think no one's going to fact check them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.

Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.

Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.

And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.

Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.

Oh come on! He’s not just carrying out some administrative duty and appointing qualified people to serve. Not to mention, four of the six people DeSantis appointed to serve on a board for a public state university don’t even live in that state. He’s got out-of-state “1776 Commission” extremists going back-and-forth to Florida for this.

Where is it stipulated that appointees must come from within the state? The governor can appoint anyone s/he wants. Once again, why are you not outraged and clutching your pearls that other states' governors are able to do the very same thing? Do you have any idea how ridiculous you look?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.

Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.

Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.

And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.

Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.

Just one example—seniors who vote for DeSantis when he blocks efforts to lower prescription costs and cuts support for nursing homes. Again, just one example but there are plenty more. Who exactly has DeSantis helped and improved life for while serving as Governor?

https://www.flgov.com/2020/12/22/governor-ron-desantis-highlights-administrations-major-accomplishments-of-2020/

https://flgov.com/2023/01/09/governor-ron-desantis-highlights-administrations-major-accomplishments-of-2022/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.

Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.

Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.

And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.

Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.

Just one example—seniors who vote for DeSantis when he blocks efforts to lower prescription costs and cuts support for nursing homes. Again, just one example but there are plenty more. Who exactly has DeSantis helped and improved life for while serving as Governor?

Liar, liar pants on fire, gnashing of teeth

Re : nursing homes
The current law requires that certified nursing assistants and licensed nurses provide a weekly average of 3.6 hours of direct care per patient per day. The bill would keep that 3.6-hour average, but it would allow time spent by other types of workers, such as physical therapists and occupational therapists, to be factored into the calculation.

And today re: prescription costs and pharmacy benefit managers

Also, DeSantis and state lawmakers in 2019 approved a plan to import cheaper prescription drugs from Canada for government programs such as Medicaid, prisons and facilities run by the Department of Children and Families.
As of early Thursday afternoon, detailed legislation had not been filed. But DeSantis said the proposal will include:

Preventing what DeSantis called “spread pricing,” which involves PBMs keeping the difference between what they are paid by health plans and what they pay to pharmacies.
Preventing a practice known as “clawbacks” by PBMs that can reduce money for pharmacies.
Barring PBMs from mandating that consumers use certain mail-order pharmacies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.

Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.

Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.

And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.

Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.

Oh come on! He’s not just carrying out some administrative duty and appointing qualified people to serve. Not to mention, four of the six people DeSantis appointed to serve on a board for a public state university don’t even live in that state. He’s got out-of-state “1776 Commission” extremists going back-and-forth to Florida for this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.

Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.

Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.

And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.

Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.

Just one example—seniors who vote for DeSantis when he blocks efforts to lower prescription costs and cuts support for nursing homes. Again, just one example but there are plenty more. Who exactly has DeSantis helped and improved life for while serving as Governor?