Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:31
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Sami? Or not that far north ?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was just in Vietnam & Cambodia and was overall impressed with how much a strong sense of family structure impacts the overall society. There is very little visible homelessness (there is lots of visible poverty everywhere), and there is great pride in the family.
Social services are much fewer yet people seem more secure.
The loss of a shared culture and moral and decay of America is at fault here IMO. I now live in a micro-niche US locale that has a subtly oppressive, homogenous shared culture with strong families and, despite the drawbacks associated with that, it’s an incredibly clean and orderly place like something out of Scandinavia. To the extent that people lose their nerve and become lax in their moral life is when pockets of violence, despair, and poverty begin popping up.
Mormon enclave?
Hell no, LOL. An enclave of tiny niche Northern European ethnic group immigration who kept all their weird (but cute!) traditions and religious identity.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:31
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:I had similar thoughts after spending time in Shanghai and Hong Kong in 2019. Felt light years ahead of us - and they've done it all in such a short amount of time. Really changes your perspective
And then covid came… If you think Shanghai is still light years ahead of us after the Zero Covid policy and all that, then I don’t have much to say.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:30
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was just in Vietnam & Cambodia and was overall impressed with how much a strong sense of family structure impacts the overall society. There is very little visible homelessness (there is lots of visible poverty everywhere), and there is great pride in the family.
Social services are much fewer yet people seem more secure.
The loss of a shared culture and moral and decay of America is at fault here IMO. I now live in a micro-niche US locale that has a subtly oppressive, homogenous shared culture with strong families and, despite the drawbacks associated with that, it’s an incredibly clean and orderly place like something out of Scandinavia. To the extent that people lose their nerve and become lax in their moral life is when pockets of violence, despair, and poverty begin popping up.
Mormon enclave?
Hell no, LOL. An enclave of tiny niche Northern European ethnic group immigration who kept all their weird (but cute!) traditions and religious identity.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:30
Subject: Re:really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
I felt the same way about architecture, size of people, and food coming from Europe
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:29
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:Well that’s one narrow part of Asia. Visit Bangladesh and you’ll kiss the linoleum at JFK.
Have you been to Bangladesh or are you just generalizing?
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:27
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had similar thoughts after spending time in Shanghai and Hong Kong in 2019. Felt light years ahead of us - and they've done it all in such a short amount of time. Really changes your perspective
If you go to the growing parts of this country, where everything is new, it's a shock too.
When was JFK built? When were these idyllic Asian airports built?
Nice excuses. Japan's shinkansen has been running for 50+ years with zero deaths. You can't blame everything on age. The US just blows chunks when it comes to infrastructure and prioritizing spending on works that do the public good. Many other countries continually improve it and properly maintain infrastructure. We waste all of our money on blowing up goatherders.
Okay. So the idyllic Asian airports are all 50+ years old (or 70+ years old, as JFK is). Thanks for answering.
Yeah, and JFK airport functions and looks like a dilapidated airport from 1956....thanks for confirming the US has terrible and outdated infrastructure.
You're welcome! Have you ever been to any other US airports? Guess not.
^^^ FWIW, JFK aside, the problem with US airports is not the age or the infrastructure, it's mostly TSA and the all of the secuirty requirements that have taken all of the fun out of flying and made it a drudgery. The fun, optimism and joie de vivre of a lot of the US is missing - not sure how or when it'll return but it won't be because of anyone on this thread
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:25
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had similar thoughts after spending time in Shanghai and Hong Kong in 2019. Felt light years ahead of us - and they've done it all in such a short amount of time. Really changes your perspective
If you go to the growing parts of this country, where everything is new, it's a shock too.
When was JFK built? When were these idyllic Asian airports built?
Nice excuses. Japan's shinkansen has been running for 50+ years with zero deaths. You can't blame everything on age. The US just blows chunks when it comes to infrastructure and prioritizing spending on works that do the public good. Many other countries continually improve it and properly maintain infrastructure. We waste all of our money on blowing up goatherders.
Okay. So the idyllic Asian airports are all 50+ years old (or 70+ years old, as JFK is). Thanks for answering.
Yeah, and JFK airport functions and looks like a dilapidated airport from 1956....thanks for confirming the US has terrible and outdated infrastructure.
You're welcome! Have you ever been to any other US airports? Guess not.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:24
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:I did a lot of work in Japan and honestly it is like living in an Ant Farm, crowded, everyone looks the same and eats the same food. No diversity of anything. Plus everything filmed 24/7 so no privacy
Agree. Japan = Ant Farm!
Yep, no diversity. They hate most foreigners, except for Whites. Japanese sees themselves as honorary Whites. In manga comics, they portray themselves with blond hair and blue eyes. Talk about weird appropriation!!
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:14
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had similar thoughts after spending time in Shanghai and Hong Kong in 2019. Felt light years ahead of us - and they've done it all in such a short amount of time. Really changes your perspective
If you go to the growing parts of this country, where everything is new, it's a shock too.
When was JFK built? When were these idyllic Asian airports built?
Nice excuses. Japan's shinkansen has been running for 50+ years with zero deaths. You can't blame everything on age. The US just blows chunks when it comes to infrastructure and prioritizing spending on works that do the public good. Many other countries continually improve it and properly maintain infrastructure. We waste all of our money on blowing up goatherders.
Okay. So the idyllic Asian airports are all 50+ years old (or 70+ years old, as JFK is). Thanks for answering.
Yeah, and JFK airport functions and looks like a dilapidated airport from 1956....thanks for confirming the US has terrible and outdated infrastructure.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:11
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had similar thoughts after spending time in Shanghai and Hong Kong in 2019. Felt light years ahead of us - and they've done it all in such a short amount of time. Really changes your perspective
If you go to the growing parts of this country, where everything is new, it's a shock too.
When was JFK built? When were these idyllic Asian airports built?
Nice excuses. Japan's shinkansen has been running for 50+ years with zero deaths. You can't blame everything on age. The US just blows chunks when it comes to infrastructure and prioritizing spending on works that do the public good. Many other countries continually improve it and properly maintain infrastructure. We waste all of our money on blowing up goatherders.
Okay. So the idyllic Asian airports are all 50+ years old (or 70+ years old, as JFK is). Thanks for answering.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:06
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had similar thoughts after spending time in Shanghai and Hong Kong in 2019. Felt light years ahead of us - and they've done it all in such a short amount of time. Really changes your perspective
If you go to the growing parts of this country, where everything is new, it's a shock too.
When was JFK built? When were these idyllic Asian airports built?
Nice excuses. Japan's shinkansen has been running for 50+ years with zero deaths. You can't blame everything on age. The US just blows chunks when it comes to infrastructure and prioritizing spending on works that do the public good. Many other countries continually improve it and properly maintain infrastructure. We waste all of our money on blowing up goatherders.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 09:01
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
Anonymous wrote:I had similar thoughts after spending time in Shanghai and Hong Kong in 2019. Felt light years ahead of us - and they've done it all in such a short amount of time. Really changes your perspective
If you go to the growing parts of this country, where everything is new, it's a shock too.
When was JFK built? When were these idyllic Asian airports built?
Anonymous
01/09/2023 08:46
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
I was just in Singapore for the first time and after hearing how incredibly clean and modern it is from many people I was really surprised by the amount of litter I saw all over as well as the strange dearth of garbage cans anywhere. I wasn’t nearly as impressed as I expected to be.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 08:45
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
I did a lot of work in Japan and honestly it is like living in an Ant Farm, crowded, everyone looks the same and eats the same food. No diversity of anything. Plus everything filmed 24/7 so no privacy
Anonymous
01/09/2023 08:25
Subject: really jarring coming back to the US after traveling to Asia for the last three weeks
I had similar thoughts after spending time in Shanghai and Hong Kong in 2019. Felt light years ahead of us - and they've done it all in such a short amount of time. Really changes your perspective