Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 19:05     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are v. few international jet setting types at BASIS, staying or moving on to new assignments. I'd wager that around 5% of the cohort falls into the leaving due to family changes category. You know this about BASIS by 8th grade.


Based on your intimate personal knowledge of the family circumstances of the 1000 or so parents of BASIS students?


Give us a break, the school isn't huge. Not even 100 students in a 7th or 8th grade cohort. This just isn't a program packed with jet setters and families who have significantly better options for HS without moving house. Presumably those people send their kids to schools with...grass.


Obviously written by someone who doesn’t know many HS families.


Yes. PP obviously just likes to make up numbers.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 18:45     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are v. few international jet setting types at BASIS, staying or moving on to new assignments. I'd wager that around 5% of the cohort falls into the leaving due to family changes category. You know this about BASIS by 8th grade.


Based on your intimate personal knowledge of the family circumstances of the 1000 or so parents of BASIS students?


Give us a break, the school isn't huge. Not even 100 students in a 7th or 8th grade cohort. This just isn't a program packed with jet setters and families who have significantly better options for HS without moving house. Presumably those people send their kids to schools with...grass.


A whole bunch go to Walls which has no grass at all.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 18:06     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are v. few international jet setting types at BASIS, staying or moving on to new assignments. I'd wager that around 5% of the cohort falls into the leaving due to family changes category. You know this about BASIS by 8th grade.


Based on your intimate personal knowledge of the family circumstances of the 1000 or so parents of BASIS students?


Give us a break, the school isn't huge. Not even 100 students in a 7th or 8th grade cohort. This just isn't a program packed with jet setters and families who have significantly better options for HS without moving house. Presumably those people send their kids to schools with...grass.


Obviously written by someone who doesn’t know many HS families.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 17:34     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The happy BASIS 8th graders we know have stayed for HS.


This. DC charter doesn't collect data on why families leave BASIS. Apparently, they don't care why they leave.

They collect data on retention. If you're happy, you stay. If you're neutral or unhappy, you go, who knows why.


That is way too simplistic an analysis.

For example, some people leave because their are foreign or US diplomats for an overseas postings, some people leave because of job transfers, some people get divorced and one person moves to another area, etc. That has nothing to do with whether they are "happy" with the school, whatever that means.


Plus, and this is the part that entitled DCUM parents don't seem to grasp, you are not required to be happy and no school is required to make you happy. If you send your kid to Duke Ellington and then complain that there's too much focus on arts then TFB. Similarly, if you send your kid to BASIS and complain that it doesn't focus on your kid's chosen immersion language and/or it is too test heavy, TFB. You are not required to like it or stay. That is ok. The problem with DCUM (and DC in general) is that entitled parents grew up thinking they were god's gift to [insert thing here]. They were told their entire lives that everyone was lucky to have them and wanted them. It messes with their whole world view when schools say, "nah, I'm good. If you don't like the way we do things feel free to leave."

If you want proof of what that approach does to the fragile psyches of DCUM parents just take a look at the posters who long ago left but still carry around so very much anger that they feel a need to express it at every turn on DCUM.

What do you get out of this sort of sanctimonious crap? You must know how desperate many parents EotP are for a decent public middle school. Their desperation shouldn't be an excuse for BASIS to push them around (several years of beginning Spanish for kids who arrive with advance Spanish, put up or shut up. etc.). As long as taxpayer dollars fund DC charters, parents have a right to push back when they're unhappy. That's not entitlement, that's the a basic right of citizens. We're never going to get higher performing schools in this city when stakeholder families essentially have no say in how schools work. Things aren't much better at Deal, Hobson, Latin, DCI and so forth.


It is called school choice.

Feel free to run for the school board. I don’t think yelling on DCUM will make much difference.


So why are you here, yelling?
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 17:33     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are v. few international jet setting types at BASIS, staying or moving on to new assignments. I'd wager that around 5% of the cohort falls into the leaving due to family changes category. You know this about BASIS by 8th grade.


Based on your intimate personal knowledge of the family circumstances of the 1000 or so parents of BASIS students?


Give us a break, the school isn't huge. Not even 100 students in a 7th or 8th grade cohort. This just isn't a program packed with jet setters and families who have significantly better options for HS without moving house. Presumably those people send their kids to schools with...grass.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 15:49     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The happy BASIS 8th graders we know have stayed for HS.


This. DC charter doesn't collect data on why families leave BASIS. Apparently, they don't care why they leave.

They collect data on retention. If you're happy, you stay. If you're neutral or unhappy, you go, who knows why.


That is way too simplistic an analysis.

For example, some people leave because their are foreign or US diplomats for an overseas postings, some people leave because of job transfers, some people get divorced and one person moves to another area, etc. That has nothing to do with whether they are "happy" with the school, whatever that means.


Plus, and this is the part that entitled DCUM parents don't seem to grasp, you are not required to be happy and no school is required to make you happy. If you send your kid to Duke Ellington and then complain that there's too much focus on arts then TFB. Similarly, if you send your kid to BASIS and complain that it doesn't focus on your kid's chosen immersion language and/or it is too test heavy, TFB. You are not required to like it or stay. That is ok. The problem with DCUM (and DC in general) is that entitled parents grew up thinking they were god's gift to [insert thing here]. They were told their entire lives that everyone was lucky to have them and wanted them. It messes with their whole world view when schools say, "nah, I'm good. If you don't like the way we do things feel free to leave."

If you want proof of what that approach does to the fragile psyches of DCUM parents just take a look at the posters who long ago left but still carry around so very much anger that they feel a need to express it at every turn on DCUM.

What do you get out of this sort of sanctimonious crap? You must know how desperate many parents EotP are for a decent public middle school. Their desperation shouldn't be an excuse for BASIS to push them around (several years of beginning Spanish for kids who arrive with advance Spanish, put up or shut up. etc.). As long as taxpayer dollars fund DC charters, parents have a right to push back when they're unhappy. That's not entitlement, that's the a basic right of citizens. We're never going to get higher performing schools in this city when stakeholder families essentially have no say in how schools work. Things aren't much better at Deal, Hobson, Latin, DCI and so forth.


It is called school choice.

Feel free to run for the school board. I don’t think yelling on DCUM will make much difference.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 10:45     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The happy BASIS 8th graders we know have stayed for HS.


This. DC charter doesn't collect data on why families leave BASIS. Apparently, they don't care why they leave.

They collect data on retention. If you're happy, you stay. If you're neutral or unhappy, you go, who knows why.


That is way too simplistic an analysis.

For example, some people leave because their are foreign or US diplomats for an overseas postings, some people leave because of job transfers, some people get divorced and one person moves to another area, etc. That has nothing to do with whether they are "happy" with the school, whatever that means.


Plus, and this is the part that entitled DCUM parents don't seem to grasp, you are not required to be happy and no school is required to make you happy. If you send your kid to Duke Ellington and then complain that there's too much focus on arts then TFB. Similarly, if you send your kid to BASIS and complain that it doesn't focus on your kid's chosen immersion language and/or it is too test heavy, TFB. You are not required to like it or stay. That is ok. The problem with DCUM (and DC in general) is that entitled parents grew up thinking they were god's gift to [insert thing here]. They were told their entire lives that everyone was lucky to have them and wanted them. It messes with their whole world view when schools say, "nah, I'm good. If you don't like the way we do things feel free to leave."

If you want proof of what that approach does to the fragile psyches of DCUM parents just take a look at the posters who long ago left but still carry around so very much anger that they feel a need to express it at every turn on DCUM.

What do you get out of this sort of sanctimonious crap? You must know how desperate many parents EotP are for a decent public middle school. Their desperation shouldn't be an excuse for BASIS to push them around (several years of beginning Spanish for kids who arrive with advance Spanish, put up or shut up. etc.). As long as taxpayer dollars fund DC charters, parents have a right to push back when they're unhappy. That's not entitlement, that's the a basic right of citizens. We're never going to get higher performing schools in this city when stakeholder families essentially have no say in how schools work. Things aren't much better at Deal, Hobson, Latin, DCI and so forth.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 10:40     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:kids leave for all sorts of reasons. as the years pass you hear more complains about too much emphasis on test prep, unserious extra curriculars and the best hs teachers quitting.


Very true.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 10:05     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The happy BASIS 8th graders we know have stayed for HS.


This. DC charter doesn't collect data on why families leave BASIS. Apparently, they don't care why they leave.

They collect data on retention. If you're happy, you stay. If you're neutral or unhappy, you go, who knows why.


That is way too simplistic an analysis.

For example, some people leave because their are foreign or US diplomats for an overseas postings, some people leave because of job transfers, some people get divorced and one person moves to another area, etc. That has nothing to do with whether they are "happy" with the school, whatever that means.


Plus, and this is the part that entitled DCUM parents don't seem to grasp, you are not required to be happy and no school is required to make you happy. If you send your kid to Duke Ellington and then complain that there's too much focus on arts then TFB. Similarly, if you send your kid to BASIS and complain that it doesn't focus on your kid's chosen immersion language and/or it is too test heavy, TFB. You are not required to like it or stay. That is ok. The problem with DCUM (and DC in general) is that entitled parents grew up thinking they were god's gift to [insert thing here]. They were told their entire lives that everyone was lucky to have them and wanted them. It messes with their whole world view when schools say, "nah, I'm good. If you don't like the way we do things feel free to leave."

If you want proof of what that approach does to the fragile psyches of DCUM parents just take a look at the posters who long ago left but still carry around so very much anger that they feel a need to express it at every turn on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2023 09:12     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are v. few international jet setting types at BASIS, staying or moving on to new assignments. I'd wager that around 5% of the cohort falls into the leaving due to family changes category. You know this about BASIS by 8th grade.


Based on your intimate personal knowledge of the family circumstances of the 1000 or so parents of BASIS students?


I found this amusing as well. What must it be like to go through life so very certain you know everything and everyone. I imagine it is exhausting.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2023 17:57     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:There are v. few international jet setting types at BASIS, staying or moving on to new assignments. I'd wager that around 5% of the cohort falls into the leaving due to family changes category. You know this about BASIS by 8th grade.


Based on your intimate personal knowledge of the family circumstances of the 1000 or so parents of BASIS students?
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2023 17:16     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

kids leave for all sorts of reasons. as the years pass you hear more complains about too much emphasis on test prep, unserious extra curriculars and the best hs teachers quitting.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2023 16:51     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

There are v. few international jet setting types at BASIS, staying or moving on to new assignments. I'd wager that around 5% of the cohort falls into the leaving due to family changes category. You know this about BASIS by 8th grade.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2023 15:47     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The happy BASIS 8th graders we know have stayed for HS.


This. DC charter doesn't collect data on why families leave BASIS. Apparently, they don't care why they leave.

They collect data on retention. If you're happy, you stay. If you're neutral or unhappy, you go, who knows why.


That is way too simplistic an analysis.

For example, some people leave because their are foreign or US diplomats for an overseas postings, some people leave because of job transfers, some people get divorced and one person moves to another area, etc. That has nothing to do with whether they are "happy" with the school, whatever that means.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2023 14:04     Subject: Re:BASIS high school versus middle school

Anonymous wrote:The happy BASIS 8th graders we know have stayed for HS.


This. DC charter doesn't collect data on why families leave BASIS. Apparently, they don't care why they leave.

They collect data on retention. If you're happy, you stay. If you're neutral or unhappy, you go, who knows why.