Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can assure you that several schools do count summer session attendance as a sign of interest.

Instead of "assuring" and sending people looking for the needle in a haystack, can you mention them?

Honestly, if you don't, the reasonable assumption is you can't. I would sincerely love to be proved wrong here.

Not "a needle in a haystack". Some schools consider & value demonstrated interest, while others do not. Name a school and research it or I will do so. There are many that do count demonstrated interest--especially LACs.

Also, there are summer programs which often result in offers of admission, but may require an ED app. (An example would be Notre Dame's young leaders program. Not everyone accepted, however, but almost all who attended were offered admission if they applied to ND. Pre-covid info.)

ED is the strongest type of "demonstrated interest".

Again, name a school of interest & research it. I will try as well.

Do not attend a summer program because the demonstrated interest aspect unless you are truly interested in attending that school.

For the most part, ultra-competitive admissions schools are unlikely to fall into this category.

Two years ago, Wesleyan University had a 61% acceptance rate for ED 1. Last year it dropped to 41%. Demonstrated interest is most likely important to this school.

If you need a starting point, look at schools with a low yield rate. Yield is relative to there overlap schools.

Believe it or not, actually considered at many law schools as well.

As I suspected. The question isn't about demonstrated interest, that is a question on every CDS on the planet. It is about paid summer programs and if they help with admissions. The overwhelming opinion is that they do not.

If you know of a school where you can show that they do help, please mention it here:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can assure you that several schools do count summer session attendance as a sign of interest.

Instead of "assuring" and sending people looking for the needle in a haystack, can you mention them?

Honestly, if you don't, the reasonable assumption is you can't. I would sincerely love to be proved wrong here.

Not "a needle in a haystack". Some schools consider & value demonstrated interest, while others do not. Name a school and research it or I will do so. There are many that do count demonstrated interest--especially LACs.

Also, there are summer programs which often result in offers of admission, but may require an ED app. (An example would be Notre Dame's young leaders program. Not everyone accepted, however, but almost all who attended were offered admission if they applied to ND. Pre-covid info.)

ED is the strongest type of "demonstrated interest".

Again, name a school of interest & research it. I will try as well.

Do not attend a summer program because the demonstrated interest aspect unless you are truly interested in attending that school.

For the most part, ultra-competitive admissions schools are unlikely to fall into this category.

Two years ago, Wesleyan University had a 61% acceptance rate for ED 1. Last year it dropped to 41%. Demonstrated interest is most likely important to this school.

If you need a starting point, look at schools with a low yield rate. Yield is relative to there overlap schools.

Believe it or not, actually considered at many law schools as well.

As I suspected. The question isn't about demonstrated interest, that is a question on every CDS on the planet. It is about paid summer programs and if they help with admissions. The overwhelming opinion is that they do not.

If you know of a school where you can show that they do help, please mention it here:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP: There are definitely summer programs that help with admissions. As I wrote on page 2, ours received very strong & specific support for two Ivies from his two professors at the summer program. They were both regular Ivy profs at that school. Also offered to write recs for a similar program at a second Ivy because it was stronger than their school's program. Did not take advantage because ours had several offers early in the process.

I can assure you that several schools do count summer session attendance as a sign of interest.

OP: Do you have any particular schools in mind besides Ivies or Stanford & MIT ?

This is OP. I never said I was looking at Stanford or MIT and am not interested in those. My kids are likely not headed to those schools (or that tier) and I was actually looking at the RISD program for one (which someone responded about) and then got to wondering more generally about the value beyond the obvious (the kid gets to see what it is like and form an opinion).

Anonymous wrote:OP: There are definitely summer programs that help with admissions. As I wrote on page 2, ours received very strong & specific support for two Ivies from his two professors at the summer program. They were both regular Ivy profs at that school. Also offered to write recs for a similar program at a second Ivy because it was stronger than their school's program. Did not take advantage because ours had several offers early in the process.

I can assure you that several schools do count summer session attendance as a sign of interest.

OP: Do you have any particular schools in mind besides Ivies or Stanford & MIT ?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can assure you that several schools do count summer session attendance as a sign of interest.

Instead of "assuring" and sending people looking for the needle in a haystack, can you mention them?

Honestly, if you don't, the reasonable assumption is you can't. I would sincerely love to be proved wrong here.

Not "a needle in a haystack". Some schools consider & value demonstrated interest, while others do not. Name a school and research it or I will do so. There are many that do count demonstrated interest--especially LACs.

Also, there are summer programs which often result in offers of admission, but may require an ED app. (An example would be Notre Dame's young leaders program. Not everyone accepted, however, but almost all who attended were offered admission if they applied to ND. Pre-covid info.)

ED is the strongest type of "demonstrated interest".

Again, name a school of interest & research it. I will try as well.

Do not attend a summer program because the demonstrated interest aspect unless you are truly interested in attending that school.

For the most part, ultra-competitive admissions schools are unlikely to fall into this category.

Two years ago, Wesleyan University had a 61% acceptance rate for ED 1. Last year it dropped to 41%. Demonstrated interest is most likely important to this school.

If you need a starting point, look at schools with a low yield rate. Yield is relative to there overlap schools.

Believe it or not, actually considered at many law schools as well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can assure you that several schools do count summer session attendance as a sign of interest.

Instead of "assuring" and sending people looking for the needle in a haystack, can you mention them?

Honestly, if you don't, the reasonable assumption is you can't. I would sincerely love to be proved wrong here.

Anonymous wrote:I can assure you that several schools do count summer session attendance as a sign of interest.

Anonymous wrote:OP: There are definitely summer programs that help with admissions. As I wrote on page 2, ours received very strong & specific support for two Ivies from his two professors at the summer program. They were both regular Ivy profs at that school. Also offered to write recs for a similar program at a second Ivy because it was stronger than their school's program. Did not take advantage because ours had several offers early in the process.

I can assure you that several schools do count summer session attendance as a sign of interest.

OP: Do you have any particular schools in mind besides Ivies or Stanford & MIT ?

Anonymous wrote:My twins did a summer program at UVA. I thought they would fall in love with the campus etc. while there and want to apply.

Big backfire!!!

After their experience there they hated it and refused to apply.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None. Zip. Zero.

Really, they do not help one bit. They are a money grab.

There is one program that I KNOW makes a difference in admissions (at least for ED applicants at that school) and that is Davidson College's July Experience taught by full time Davidson professors. My D attended when it was last held pre-pandemic and along with 6 others who roomed in her dorm floor alone were admitted ED or ED2. She knows at least 15 others who attended and are now classmates at Davidson She was told by one of the student counselors that the admissions rate for successful July Experience attendees is around 80% (vs. 17% rate overall). Just don't take this anonymous poster's word for it. Jeff Selingo in his book Who Gets in and Why mentions the program being a deciding factor in an applicant's admission. The applicant previously was on the cusp of being denied before it was noted that the applicant attended JE. It was a great experience for my child and a life changing one at that now that she's happily a student there.

My DS is interested in this program, regardless of whether it provides an admission boost, but I wonder if it’s been cancelled, it didn’t happen last summer and there’s no info about this year.