Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 10:45     Subject: Re:Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

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Anonymous wrote:No. I’ve been a personal trainer for 30 years. Masters in Exercise Physiology. No drug will ever work. No fad diet will ever work. No shiny new exercise program will ever work. Healthy, strong bodies are built through hard work and discipline. People may lose for a few months or even years. But it always comes back. Changing your body requires a complete lifestyle change. Few people are willing to put in the effort.


I don't think you know what you are talking about. Based on what I observed with my obese spouse, some people experience hunger and/or cravings differently. Before starting on one of the drugs, my spouse basically couldn't stop chomping, and the diet wasn't particularly unhealthy - they just ate a lot. You can't say to someone like that "just stop eating". Now, with the drug, they are able to shut their mouth in between regular normal sized meals, and the weight started going down quickly.

BTW, we live in an urban area and don't own a car, so there is plenty of walking without any special effort.




Um. Your spouse didn't get obese eating tons of vegetables.


No but once you’re obese, it’s hard to lose the weight. I was 300 pounds and while I ate my way there, it was super easy to maintain by eating normally.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 10:44     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.



DP. First, the fake sweetheart is so tired and low energy. It does nothing for your post except make you sound really condescending and petty.

Second, why are so many people mad about overweight having tools (drugs) to deal with their weight? Do you say the same thing on mental health posts about people taking meds for anxiety? Or people taking meds for high blood pressure? Do say this to people using acne medication to stop using it and deal with why you have acne in the first place?

I really think it’s pure jealousy and a false sense of superiority.

I’ve been on a semaglutide for over 5 years, lost over 100lbs. And it’s so great that this medication has made my “underlying issue of why I became obese” just disappear. It’s great. Love these meds, I hope everyone that needs them and wants to try them, reaches out to their doctor and gives it a shot! (Pun intended).


^ This is how pharma investors speak, like expensive prescriptions are the key to complete happiness.



Definitely not the key to complete happiness. But I feel great getting rid of the extra weight. Still wondering if you say this to the folks taking anxiety meds or kids taking Accutane when they are overjoyed when their skin clears up? Or folks taking Lexapro or Zoloft get happy when their depression lifts? So weird how these people only hate on overweight people taking medication loosing weight. So sad.

Someone here knows an awful lot about pharma.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 10:43     Subject: Re:Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:No. I’ve been a personal trainer for 30 years. Masters in Exercise Physiology. No drug will ever work. No fad diet will ever work. No shiny new exercise program will ever work. Healthy, strong bodies are built through hard work and discipline. People may lose for a few months or even years. But it always comes back. Changing your body requires a complete lifestyle change. Few people are willing to put in the effort.


I used to weigh 300 pounds and now I’m 142 that’s to these drugs. I am never going back, but thanks for having faith in me.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 10:41     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.



DP. First, the fake sweetheart is so tired and low energy. It does nothing for your post except make you sound really condescending and petty.

Second, why are so many people mad about overweight having tools (drugs) to deal with their weight? Do you say the same thing on mental health posts about people taking meds for anxiety? Or people taking meds for high blood pressure? Do say this to people using acne medication to stop using it and deal with why you have acne in the first place?

I really think it’s pure jealousy and a false sense of superiority.

I’ve been on a semaglutide for over 5 years, lost over 100lbs. And it’s so great that this medication has made my “underlying issue of why I became obese” just disappear. It’s great. Love these meds, I hope everyone that needs them and wants to try them, reaches out to their doctor and gives it a shot! (Pun intended).



Why did you need to lose 100 lbs in the first place? Were you actually unhealthy? Or did your doctor fat shame you into doing it?


This is pseudo science quackery. This whole body positivity movement has gone off the deep end. 100 freaking excess pounds is unhealthy, FFS.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 10:36     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.



DP. First, the fake sweetheart is so tired and low energy. It does nothing for your post except make you sound really condescending and petty.

Second, why are so many people mad about overweight having tools (drugs) to deal with their weight? Do you say the same thing on mental health posts about people taking meds for anxiety? Or people taking meds for high blood pressure? Do say this to people using acne medication to stop using it and deal with why you have acne in the first place?

I really think it’s pure jealousy and a false sense of superiority.

I’ve been on a semaglutide for over 5 years, lost over 100lbs. And it’s so great that this medication has made my “underlying issue of why I became obese” just disappear. It’s great. Love these meds, I hope everyone that needs them and wants to try them, reaches out to their doctor and gives it a shot! (Pun intended).


^ This is how pharma investors speak, like expensive prescriptions are the key to complete happiness.



Definitely not the key to complete happiness. But I feel great getting rid of the extra weight. Still wondering if you say this to the folks taking anxiety meds or kids taking Accutane when they are overjoyed when their skin clears up? Or folks taking Lexapro or Zoloft get happy when their depression lifts? So weird how these people only hate on overweight people taking medication loosing weight. So sad.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 10:22     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:It's only good for weight loss while you're taking it. As soon as you stop taking it, the weight comes right back.


Studies don’t reflect this to be accurate.

https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/165203/wegovy-demonstrates-sustained-weight-loss-in-two-year-obesity-study/
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/a-new-treatment-for-obesity-202109102589
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 10:01     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.



DP. First, the fake sweetheart is so tired and low energy. It does nothing for your post except make you sound really condescending and petty.

Second, why are so many people mad about overweight having tools (drugs) to deal with their weight? Do you say the same thing on mental health posts about people taking meds for anxiety? Or people taking meds for high blood pressure? Do say this to people using acne medication to stop using it and deal with why you have acne in the first place?

I really think it’s pure jealousy and a false sense of superiority.

I’ve been on a semaglutide for over 5 years, lost over 100lbs. And it’s so great that this medication has made my “underlying issue of why I became obese” just disappear. It’s great. Love these meds, I hope everyone that needs them and wants to try them, reaches out to their doctor and gives it a shot! (Pun intended).


^ This is how pharma investors speak, like expensive prescriptions are the key to complete happiness.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 09:56     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.



This narrative that someone who takes this drug has a character flaw seems really important to you. Why is that?


NP. It sounds like something my mother would say, and she has a wild disordered eating problem (see: the year that she only ate cheerios, that was her whole diet, cheerios).
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 09:40     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.



DP. First, the fake sweetheart is so tired and low energy. It does nothing for your post except make you sound really condescending and petty.

Second, why are so many people mad about overweight having tools (drugs) to deal with their weight? Do you say the same thing on mental health posts about people taking meds for anxiety? Or people taking meds for high blood pressure? Do say this to people using acne medication to stop using it and deal with why you have acne in the first place?

I really think it’s pure jealousy and a false sense of superiority.

I’ve been on a semaglutide for over 5 years, lost over 100lbs. And it’s so great that this medication has made my “underlying issue of why I became obese” just disappear. It’s great. Love these meds, I hope everyone that needs them and wants to try them, reaches out to their doctor and gives it a shot! (Pun intended).



Why did you need to lose 100 lbs in the first place? Were you actually unhealthy? Or did your doctor fat shame you into doing it?
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 09:31     Subject: Re:Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. I’ve been a personal trainer for 30 years. Masters in Exercise Physiology. No drug will ever work. No fad diet will ever work. No shiny new exercise program will ever work. Healthy, strong bodies are built through hard work and discipline. People may lose for a few months or even years. But it always comes back. Changing your body requires a complete lifestyle change. Few people are willing to put in the effort.


Exactly. Eat less and exercise more.


I’ve spent my whole life gaining and losing the same weight (biggest loss was 90 lbs in my teens after spending my whole childhood suffering from childhood obesity), eating as well as I can and doing 45 minutes of cardio 4-5 times a week along with strength training. I’m in excellent health other than my weight. Lots of research my experience is typical of people who successfully lost weight at some point. And before you attack my parents, I had a classic DCUM “almond mom” and grew up in an “ingredient household.” My hunger simply never matched a healthy BMI. No trauma, no abuse, just always hungrier than I “should” have been.


What does this mean, exactly? If you're hungry, you're hungry. Maybe the BMI calculation isn't right for your body. If you have always been feeling strong and healthy, then maybe your weight is right where it should be.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 09:23     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.



This narrative that someone who takes this drug has a character flaw seems really important to you. Why is that?
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 09:20     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.



DP. First, the fake sweetheart is so tired and low energy. It does nothing for your post except make you sound really condescending and petty.

Second, why are so many people mad about overweight having tools (drugs) to deal with their weight? Do you say the same thing on mental health posts about people taking meds for anxiety? Or people taking meds for high blood pressure? Do say this to people using acne medication to stop using it and deal with why you have acne in the first place?

I really think it’s pure jealousy and a false sense of superiority.

I’ve been on a semaglutide for over 5 years, lost over 100lbs. And it’s so great that this medication has made my “underlying issue of why I became obese” just disappear. It’s great. Love these meds, I hope everyone that needs them and wants to try them, reaches out to their doctor and gives it a shot! (Pun intended).

Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 07:13     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.


Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?


Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?


That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.


Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.

Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 06:50     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

DeTh.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2023 05:50     Subject: Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

Anonymous wrote:I worry about the long term side effects. My doc put me on fen-phen in the 90s, saying it was perfectly safe. But then it came out that long term use could affect heart health. I got off quickly and thankfully no repercussions, but it was scary at the time.


What are the long term effects of obesity?