Anonymous wrote:If people don’t know what a classical education emphasizes in elementary school here are some examples:
Phonics is taught systematically using a curriculum. Students will read decodable texts instead of guessing and memorizing whole words while looking at picture cues. Workbooks to practice phonics skills are used.
Spelling is taught and there are weekly spelling tests. Instead of having students in kindergarten and first grade write sentences, paragraphs or pages of journal writing where they write using invented spelling about their favorite animal or what they did during the weekend, in classical education students first learn to copy correctly using correct spelling and punctuation. They memorize and recite poems.
In math students memorize math facts.
Anonymous wrote:If people don’t know what a classical education emphasizes in elementary school here are some examples:
Phonics is taught systematically using a curriculum. Students will read decodable texts instead of guessing and memorizing whole words while looking at picture cues. Workbooks to practice phonics skills are used.
Spelling is taught and there are weekly spelling tests. Instead of having students in kindergarten and first grade write sentences, paragraphs or pages of journal writing where they write using invented spelling about their favorite animal or what they did during the weekend, in classical education students first learn to copy correctly using correct spelling and punctuation. They memorize and recite poems.
In math students memorize math facts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
Please listen because I am very serious here: making absurd arguments like we need to stop saying "classical education" because it has been "co-opted by right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education" does absolutely NOTHING for your cause. It shows you to be an ignorant, unserious person more interested in thought-policing than policy.
+1. I'm conservative, I know lots of conservatives and I don't know anyone who wants to eradicate public education. They would like to improve it and they often feel the best avenue for improvement is to introduce competition.
A friend ran for school board and the first thing they accused her of was wanting to dismantle public education -- this is someone who sends her kids to public school! She just wanted to put some checks on the insane spending. Meanwhile her opponent had a Defund the Police sign in her front yard!
Anonymous wrote:Do any Catholic schools in NOVA offer a classical education?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
Please listen because I am very serious here: making absurd arguments like we need to stop saying "classical education" because it has been "co-opted by right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education" does absolutely NOTHING for your cause. It shows you to be an ignorant, unserious person more interested in thought-policing than policy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
This won't happen because there is a culture of toxic positivity on the left about public schools in which they cannot be criticized, even when they are blatantly failing. My local affluent public elementary has a 20% pass rate on math standardized tests (30% for ELA) and the parents are gushing that "our schools couldn't be doing a more amazing job considering we just had a GLOBAL PANDEMIC"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
Please listen because I am very serious here: making absurd arguments like we need to stop saying "classical education" because it has been "co-opted by right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education" does absolutely NOTHING for your cause. It shows you to be an ignorant, unserious person more interested in thought-policing than policy.
+1. I'm conservative, I know lots of conservatives and I don't know anyone who wants to eradicate public education. They would like to improve it and they often feel the best avenue for improvement is to introduce competition.
A friend ran for school board and the first thing they accused her of was wanting to dismantle public education -- this is someone who sends her kids to public school! She just wanted to put some checks on the insane spending. Meanwhile her opponent had a Defund the Police sign in her front yard!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
Please listen because I am very serious here: making absurd arguments like we need to stop saying "classical education" because it has been "co-opted by right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education" does absolutely NOTHING for your cause. It shows you to be an ignorant, unserious person more interested in thought-policing than policy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
This won't happen because there is a culture of toxic positivity on the left about public schools in which they cannot be criticized, even when they are blatantly failing. My local affluent public elementary has a 20% pass rate on math standardized tests (30% for ELA) and the parents are gushing that "our schools couldn't be doing a more amazing job considering we just had a GLOBAL PANDEMIC"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.
I'm sure most people know that, but what may be news is that the term has been co-opted by the right-wingers whose goal is to eradicate public education (e.g., Hillsdale College's Classical Education charter schools)y. And they're winning! What we need to do is demand a classic education from our public schools without all the right-wing bullcrap.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.
I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.