Anonymous
12/25/2022 09:15
Subject: Re:What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Britney is acting like an abuse victim, which she is.
Abuse can stop you from maturing. It can cause you to think you're going crazy and act crazy (like her very public breakdown). It can mess you up in so many ways. Sure, she may also have mental health issues but you can't diagnose over the internet. And it's very possible that she doesn't....it's just the abuse.
Also, most celebrities have a PR team that curates their social media. So comparing her posts to there posts isn't a true comparison.
I wish people would leave her alone, let her grow and become the person she was meant to be.
+1
Those diagnosing her mental illnesses should also understand that she was treated by doctors against her will--given drugs and even an IUD without her consent. Her family, friends, lawyers, and doctors all failed her for years.
I think it's amazing that she's still finding joy in dancing.
Doing crazy things because of abuse *IS* mental illness. It's not one or the other. She isn't acting like a stable adult and the public can easily see that. We can't diagnose the specific issue or cause from our couches, but it's possible to conclude that something is off. She's not mentally healthy.
This was always evident. Anyone who supported free britney expecting her to be a totally normal person afterwards was being unrealistic.
But her being mentally ill doesn't mean that getting her out of that situation was wrong. She is mentally ill, she made a mint of money in her teens, and her family took advantage of her to profit off of her work, all of those things can be true at the same time. I think people are having some kind of collective guilt concern like, if something bad now happens to her, then freeing her was not the 'right' choice and we will bear the weight of whatever that is. That her family WAS 'protecting' her.
But the reality is that the type of arrangement she was under is extraordinarily uncommon for an adult who is capable of being basically functional. They were definitely taking advantage of her and mistreating her. And regardless of what happens next, she should be free to spend her money and live her life the way she wants, even if that is in a way that ends in a dumpster fire. But I would bet it is more likely that she just posts crazy stuff on instagram for the next 20 years.
I haven't seen anyone arguing on this thread that the conservatorship should go back in place as it was or that it shouldn't have been lifted.
Unfortunately, celebs with lots of money with this level of mental instability don't typically live long. That's likely what will happen next. Car accident. Drug overdose. Something more bizarre. Whatever, but it's not a recipe for a long life. I strongly suspect she's only alive now because of the conservatorship--that doesn't mean it was right or fair but it did stabilize her. Now all we can do is cross our fingers and hope she stabilizes. It's up to her.
It kept her instability hidden from the public. That is not the same thing as stabilizing[/quo
+1 Her latest "Christmas" video is disturbing to watch. Her facial expression is hauntingly sad.
Anonymous
12/25/2022 01:59
Subject: What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she never matured past the age of 16. And then she just stopped. She was abused and taken advantage of and forced to make money for a lot of people.
Everyone thought getting her free would help. But really now she’s just free to be a mess on Instagram.
Yeah, I think this arrested development theory about sums it up. She has the freedom of an adult, the money of a celebrity, but the maturity of a rebellious teen.
and married to a super creepy guy.
Creepy but extremely H-O-T. 🔥🔥🔥
Anonymous
12/24/2022 16:36
Subject: Re:What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Britney is acting like an abuse victim, which she is.
Abuse can stop you from maturing. It can cause you to think you're going crazy and act crazy (like her very public breakdown). It can mess you up in so many ways. Sure, she may also have mental health issues but you can't diagnose over the internet. And it's very possible that she doesn't....it's just the abuse.
Also, most celebrities have a PR team that curates their social media. So comparing her posts to there posts isn't a true comparison.
I wish people would leave her alone, let her grow and become the person she was meant to be.
+1
Those diagnosing her mental illnesses should also understand that she was treated by doctors against her will--given drugs and even an IUD without her consent. Her family, friends, lawyers, and doctors all failed her for years.
I think it's amazing that she's still finding joy in dancing.
Doing crazy things because of abuse *IS* mental illness. It's not one or the other. She isn't acting like a stable adult and the public can easily see that. We can't diagnose the specific issue or cause from our couches, but it's possible to conclude that something is off. She's not mentally healthy.
This was always evident. Anyone who supported free britney expecting her to be a totally normal person afterwards was being unrealistic.
But her being mentally ill doesn't mean that getting her out of that situation was wrong. She is mentally ill, she made a mint of money in her teens, and her family took advantage of her to profit off of her work, all of those things can be true at the same time. I think people are having some kind of collective guilt concern like, if something bad now happens to her, then freeing her was not the 'right' choice and we will bear the weight of whatever that is. That her family WAS 'protecting' her.
But the reality is that the type of arrangement she was under is extraordinarily uncommon for an adult who is capable of being basically functional. They were definitely taking advantage of her and mistreating her. And regardless of what happens next, she should be free to spend her money and live her life the way she wants, even if that is in a way that ends in a dumpster fire. But I would bet it is more likely that she just posts crazy stuff on instagram for the next 20 years.
I haven't seen anyone arguing on this thread that the conservatorship should go back in place as it was or that it shouldn't have been lifted.
Unfortunately, celebs with lots of money with this level of mental instability don't typically live long. That's likely what will happen next. Car accident. Drug overdose. Something more bizarre. Whatever, but it's not a recipe for a long life. I strongly suspect she's only alive now because of the conservatorship--that doesn't mean it was right or fair but it did stabilize her. Now all we can do is cross our fingers and hope she stabilizes. It's up to her.
It kept her instability hidden from the public. That is not the same thing as stabilizing
Anonymous
12/24/2022 15:51
Subject: Re:What is actually going on with Britney?
I mean, her posts are pretty weird. She has this thing about always looking like she's about to pull her pants down, and she still dances where I think she used to, which appears to be like a hallway in her house--always looking disheveled. She always has raccoon eyes too, but that might be tattooed eye makeup. She definitely has some kind of mental illness. What's a shame is that one of her famous friends can't hook her up for a good brand manager who doesn't want to abuse her, but can help her look not so crazy. She doesn't need to be on IG, but she appears to want to be there. She can be kooky. But she's really messy looking.
Anonymous
12/24/2022 14:40
Subject: Re:What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Britney is acting like an abuse victim, which she is.
Abuse can stop you from maturing. It can cause you to think you're going crazy and act crazy (like her very public breakdown). It can mess you up in so many ways. Sure, she may also have mental health issues but you can't diagnose over the internet. And it's very possible that she doesn't....it's just the abuse.
Also, most celebrities have a PR team that curates their social media. So comparing her posts to there posts isn't a true comparison.
I wish people would leave her alone, let her grow and become the person she was meant to be.
+1
Those diagnosing her mental illnesses should also understand that she was treated by doctors against her will--given drugs and even an IUD without her consent. Her family, friends, lawyers, and doctors all failed her for years.
I think it's amazing that she's still finding joy in dancing.
Doing crazy things because of abuse *IS* mental illness. It's not one or the other. She isn't acting like a stable adult and the public can easily see that. We can't diagnose the specific issue or cause from our couches, but it's possible to conclude that something is off. She's not mentally healthy.
This was always evident. Anyone who supported free britney expecting her to be a totally normal person afterwards was being unrealistic.
But her being mentally ill doesn't mean that getting her out of that situation was wrong. She is mentally ill, she made a mint of money in her teens, and her family took advantage of her to profit off of her work, all of those things can be true at the same time. I think people are having some kind of collective guilt concern like, if something bad now happens to her, then freeing her was not the 'right' choice and we will bear the weight of whatever that is. That her family WAS 'protecting' her.
But the reality is that the type of arrangement she was under is extraordinarily uncommon for an adult who is capable of being basically functional. They were definitely taking advantage of her and mistreating her. And regardless of what happens next, she should be free to spend her money and live her life the way she wants, even if that is in a way that ends in a dumpster fire. But I would bet it is more likely that she just posts crazy stuff on instagram for the next 20 years.
I haven't seen anyone arguing on this thread that the conservatorship should go back in place as it was or that it shouldn't have been lifted.
Unfortunately, celebs with lots of money with this level of mental instability don't typically live long. That's likely what will happen next. Car accident. Drug overdose. Something more bizarre. Whatever, but it's not a recipe for a long life. I strongly suspect she's only alive now because of the conservatorship--that doesn't mean it was right or fair but it did stabilize her. Now all we can do is cross our fingers and hope she stabilizes. It's up to her.
Anonymous
12/24/2022 14:36
Subject: What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s so sad what happened to her. She clearly has serious mental health issues, and it appears nobody around her who has a genuine interest in really helping her. I know some people thing her husband truly loves her, but I think he is just using her to try to build a name for himself, I especially felt that after the NYT article.
Maybe he loves her but he also doesn't seem to be the brightest. A highly intelligent and moral partner would have been amazing for her.
But that person wouldn't be a partner, they would be a caretaker. A highly intelligent person cannot have a partnership with someone like her. Also to the people saying "leave her alone". No one here is bothering her. This is the digital version of sitting on the porch talking.
I don't think a highly intelligent person would WANT to be her partner. In my experience, smart people are attracted to other smart people, and nobody would conclude Britney is smart. Unless they're stupid.
Many highly intelligent men Marty less than intelligent women. All.the.time
Anonymous
12/24/2022 14:32
Subject: What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand what desire rests inside most people that makes them unable to accept that it could simply be mental illness. People seem to need for it to be external—like they need someone to blame. Is it about needing to feel in control?
There is no such thing as “simply mental illness.” Mental illness is not a chemical imbalance or a messed up gene, often our mental issues are direct results of the things that happen to us. PTSD is a good example. It is a mental disorder, but it was caused by something external. With depression, another mental illness, the most common causes are loneliness and a lack of control over environment. Just because something is a mental illness doesn’t mean it has nothing to do with the environment.
Anonymous
12/24/2022 14:29
Subject: What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s so sad what happened to her. She clearly has serious mental health issues, and it appears nobody around her who has a genuine interest in really helping her. I know some people thing her husband truly loves her, but I think he is just using her to try to build a name for himself, I especially felt that after the NYT article.
Maybe he loves her but he also doesn't seem to be the brightest. A highly intelligent and moral partner would have been amazing for her.
But that person wouldn't be a partner, they would be a caretaker. A highly intelligent person cannot have a partnership with someone like her. Also to the people saying "leave her alone". No one here is bothering her. This is the digital version of sitting on the porch talking.
I don't think a highly intelligent person would WANT to be her partner. In my experience, smart people are attracted to other smart people, and nobody would conclude Britney is smart. Unless they're stupid.
How much time have you spent with her without the cameras rolling? How many conversations have you had with her? Were you her teacher?
Anonymous
12/24/2022 14:22
Subject: Re:What is actually going on with Britney?
Loved her Vegas Piece of Me show inn Vegas a few years ago.
Anonymous
12/24/2022 10:45
Subject: What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand what desire rests inside most people that makes them unable to accept that it could simply be mental illness. People seem to need for it to be external—like they need someone to blame. Is it about needing to feel in control?
No, PP, it’s about looking at the situation and seeing, repeatedly, the external factors that made the mental health problems worse.
I’ve had postpartum depression and gotten divorced and those things were hard enough without paparazzi following me around and tabloids speculating about me all the time.
The questions about what’s REALLY going on exist because the situation was manipulated for a long time. She’s so unstable she needs a conservator for close to 15 years but is stable enough to work consistently throughout a lot of that time period? There are real questions about what was necessary then as well as now. Had the conservatorship been less sketchy, it would probably be easier for people to recognize that this is a woman who needs help. If she was just another very wealthy person with limited ability to manage her business and brand, there are any number of effective management companies and people who could help. At this point, if I was Britney, I’d have a hard time trusting that anyone was telling the truth or trying to help or even just earning a paycheck without trying to get more somehow. That’s all she’s known to this point.
Anonymous
12/24/2022 10:24
Subject: What is actually going on with Britney?
I don’t understand what desire rests inside most people that makes them unable to accept that it could simply be mental illness. People seem to need for it to be external—like they need someone to blame. Is it about needing to feel in control?
Anonymous
12/23/2022 17:03
Subject: What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s so sad what happened to her. She clearly has serious mental health issues, and it appears nobody around her who has a genuine interest in really helping her. I know some people thing her husband truly loves her, but I think he is just using her to try to build a name for himself, I especially felt that after the NYT article.
Maybe he loves her but he also doesn't seem to be the brightest. A highly intelligent and moral partner would have been amazing for her.
But that person wouldn't be a partner, they would be a caretaker. A highly intelligent person cannot have a partnership with someone like her. Also to the people saying "leave her alone". No one here is bothering her. This is the digital version of sitting on the porch talking.
I don't think a highly intelligent person would WANT to be her partner. In my experience, smart people are attracted to other smart people, and nobody would conclude Britney is smart. Unless they're stupid.
Anonymous
12/23/2022 17:03
Subject: Re:What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
How do these posts prove she is mentally ill? It’s not unusual for celebrities to post sexy and revealing pics of themselves.
Madonna creates an NFT of herself giving birth to a tree for God’s sake!
I don’t know anyone who would assert that Madonna is well either fwiw. She’s just not quite as messy as Britney.
Yeah, Madonna isn’t the mental health poster child.
I just hope Britney is happy. I don’t care what she posts on her IG. Last time I looked it was just selfies of her dancing around half-naked.
Anonymous
12/23/2022 16:47
Subject: Re:What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:
How do these posts prove she is mentally ill? It’s not unusual for celebrities to post sexy and revealing pics of themselves.
Madonna creates an NFT of herself giving birth to a tree for God’s sake!
I don’t know anyone who would assert that Madonna is well either fwiw. She’s just not quite as messy as Britney.
Anonymous
12/23/2022 16:23
Subject: Re:What is actually going on with Britney?
Anonymous wrote:
How do these posts prove she is mentally ill? It’s not unusual for celebrities to post sexy and revealing pics of themselves.
Madonna created an NFT of herself giving birth to a tree for God’s sake!