Anonymous
Post 12/18/2022 16:01     Subject: Re:Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite amused by all the people concerned about children getting into unopened bottles of wine. Hell, half the time I can barely open a bottle of wine, and that's with a corkscrew, which I assume your average child is not toting around.


As a high school teacher, it would be very easy for a student to steal a bottle of wine off my desk, and for me to be held criminally liable. Not all teachers teach 5 year olds.


So...don't keep it on your desk? Where do you put your purse? Put it there.


I put my purse in a desk drawer that isn't going to hold all the Christmas gifts I get.

How much space do you think a teacher has?


So put the stuff you really don’t want kids to get into in the drawer, and leave the mugs, scented candles, and hand lotion out?


How am I supposed to know that without opening the presents? Which I can't do, since if someone sees the wine, the kid could get expelled.

My drawer isn't going to fit a bottle of wine.


I see that ingenuity isn’t your strong point.


And being obtusely argumentative is yours.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2022 15:57     Subject: Re:Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite amused by all the people concerned about children getting into unopened bottles of wine. Hell, half the time I can barely open a bottle of wine, and that's with a corkscrew, which I assume your average child is not toting around.


As a high school teacher, it would be very easy for a student to steal a bottle of wine off my desk, and for me to be held criminally liable. Not all teachers teach 5 year olds.


So...don't keep it on your desk? Where do you put your purse? Put it there.


I put my purse in a desk drawer that isn't going to hold all the Christmas gifts I get.

How much space do you think a teacher has?


So put the stuff you really don’t want kids to get into in the drawer, and leave the mugs, scented candles, and hand lotion out?


How am I supposed to know that without opening the presents? Which I can't do, since if someone sees the wine, the kid could get expelled.

My drawer isn't going to fit a bottle of wine.


I see that ingenuity isn’t your strong point.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2022 15:55     Subject: Re:Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite amused by all the people concerned about children getting into unopened bottles of wine. Hell, half the time I can barely open a bottle of wine, and that's with a corkscrew, which I assume your average child is not toting around.


As a high school teacher, it would be very easy for a student to steal a bottle of wine off my desk, and for me to be held criminally liable. Not all teachers teach 5 year olds.


So...don't keep it on your desk? Where do you put your purse? Put it there.


I put my purse in a desk drawer that isn't going to hold all the Christmas gifts I get.

How much space do you think a teacher has?


So put the stuff you really don’t want kids to get into in the drawer, and leave the mugs, scented candles, and hand lotion out?


How am I supposed to know that without opening the presents? Which I can't do, since if someone sees the wine, the kid could get expelled.

My drawer isn't going to fit a bottle of wine.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2022 15:53     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

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Anonymous wrote:Title says it all. It was suggested as a gift idea for a specific teacher. This is for Elem.


This can't be for real. Not only is it inappropriate to take alcohol into an elementary school - even in the bottle - but it's presumptuous to assume the teacher drinks and likes the particular alcoholic beverage you've decided to give them. If you know the teacher well enough to know what their favorite alcoholic beverage is, then you can meet them outside of school to deliver the gift.


It’s presumptuous then to give your teacher anything. Maybe they are allergic to chocolate. Maybe they hate Starbucks.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2022 15:52     Subject: Re:Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite amused by all the people concerned about children getting into unopened bottles of wine. Hell, half the time I can barely open a bottle of wine, and that's with a corkscrew, which I assume your average child is not toting around.


As a high school teacher, it would be very easy for a student to steal a bottle of wine off my desk, and for me to be held criminally liable. Not all teachers teach 5 year olds.


So...don't keep it on your desk? Where do you put your purse? Put it there.


I put my purse in a desk drawer that isn't going to hold all the Christmas gifts I get.

How much space do you think a teacher has?


So put the stuff you really don’t want kids to get into in the drawer, and leave the mugs, scented candles, and hand lotion out?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2022 15:46     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

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Anonymous wrote:You seriously can’t think of another more appropriate gift? Gift certificates, chocolates, something on their Amazon wishlist, a hand written card from your kid. Not all teachers drink alcohol. You can’t be so stupid as to think bringing alcohol to a school is okay.


When DD was in elementary school, I ran into her teacher at a bar one time. We had a little chat and I found out she was dating the gym teacher on the DL. When DD told me they'd gotten engaged I sent DD in with a bottle of champagne and a congrats on the engagement card signed by both of us. Seemed entirely appropriate to me.


Wait… you thought it was appropriate to send your elementary aged child to school with a bottle of champagne???


I hope this was in Europe.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2022 11:29     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

Anonymous wrote:Title says it all. It was suggested as a gift idea for a specific teacher. This is for Elem.


This can't be for real. Not only is it inappropriate to take alcohol into an elementary school - even in the bottle - but it's presumptuous to assume the teacher drinks and likes the particular alcoholic beverage you've decided to give them. If you know the teacher well enough to know what their favorite alcoholic beverage is, then you can meet them outside of school to deliver the gift.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 22:49     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

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Anonymous wrote:You seriously can’t think of another more appropriate gift? Gift certificates, chocolates, something on their Amazon wishlist, a hand written card from your kid. Not all teachers drink alcohol. You can’t be so stupid as to think bringing alcohol to a school is okay.


When DD was in elementary school, I ran into her teacher at a bar one time. We had a little chat and I found out she was dating the gym teacher on the DL. When DD told me they'd gotten engaged I sent DD in with a bottle of champagne and a congrats on the engagement card signed by both of us. Seemed entirely appropriate to me.


Wait… you thought it was appropriate to send your elementary aged child to school with a bottle of champagne???
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 22:19     Subject: Re:Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm quite amused by all the people concerned about children getting into unopened bottles of wine. Hell, half the time I can barely open a bottle of wine, and that's with a corkscrew, which I assume your average child is not toting around.


As a high school teacher, it would be very easy for a student to steal a bottle of wine off my desk, and for me to be held criminally liable. Not all teachers teach 5 year olds.


So...don't keep it on your desk? Where do you put your purse? Put it there.


I put my purse in a desk drawer that isn't going to hold all the Christmas gifts I get.

How much space do you think a teacher has?
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 22:16     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

My teacher sister once received a bottle of wine from a students’ parents . . . Delivered to her by the elementary student from his backpack! Don’t do that.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 20:45     Subject: Re:Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm quite amused by all the people concerned about children getting into unopened bottles of wine. Hell, half the time I can barely open a bottle of wine, and that's with a corkscrew, which I assume your average child is not toting around.


As a high school teacher, it would be very easy for a student to steal a bottle of wine off my desk, and for me to be held criminally liable. Not all teachers teach 5 year olds.


This thread is about elementary school. It's in the OP.


Once I substitute taught a rambunctious fifth grade class and they got into my stuff and stole some of my food. I am sure if I had some alcohol on me they would have stolen it, just for fun.

And before somebody asks, no, this was not a title 1 school.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 20:38     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

Anonymous wrote:All anyone needs is a dropped bottle of cognac in the parking lot of an elementary school. Good luck with the fallout from that.

No, do not give alcohol to an MCPS teacher as a holiday gift. Good God.


Let’s be realistic. No one is gifting an ES teacher a nice bottle of cognac. It would be a cheap rose probably.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 14:49     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

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Anonymous wrote:Who needs to know what's wrapped up and in a bag? Only the recipient, that's who. When we give alcohol, I carry it into the school and my kids come meet me in the lobby and go distribute with "My mom says to definitely open this once you're at home and not at school" - it was cute when my daughter asked if she could wink when she said it.


If you jeopardized my job and my ability to feed my family because you think something is cute you are a terrible person.

I have gotten alcohol as a gift. Any respect I had for that family was gone in that moment.


You lost respect for a family that gave you an item frequently (and with Emily Post's approval) given as a holiday or hostess gift? That's messed up.

I am a teacher. A gift of wine, discreetly given, would never jeopardize my job.


In 2022, Emily Post actually does not approve alcohol gifts.


Citation, please.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 14:42     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

All anyone needs is a dropped bottle of cognac in the parking lot of an elementary school. Good luck with the fallout from that.

No, do not give alcohol to an MCPS teacher as a holiday gift. Good God.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 14:41     Subject: Are teachers allowed to accept alcohol at school as a gift ?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Who needs to know what's wrapped up and in a bag? Only the recipient, that's who. When we give alcohol, I carry it into the school and my kids come meet me in the lobby and go distribute with "My mom says to definitely open this once you're at home and not at school" - it was cute when my daughter asked if she could wink when she said it.


If you jeopardized my job and my ability to feed my family because you think something is cute you are a terrible person.

I have gotten alcohol as a gift. Any respect I had for that family was gone in that moment.


You lost respect for a family that gave you an item frequently (and with Emily Post's approval) given as a holiday or hostess gift? That's messed up.

I am a teacher. A gift of wine, discreetly given, would never jeopardize my job.


In 2022, Emily Post actually does not approve alcohol gifts.