Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t mean to sound rude but who cares? I will be perfectly honest that in my view, the goal of affirmative action is to fix the systemic injustices created by slavery (and other racial injustices) where those injustices still exist for minority groups. If one particular minority group is no longer impacted by the past injustices perpetrated against them, then that is not a reason to scrap a policy that helps other minority groups. No longer benefiting from a particular policy aimed to increase social justice and right the past errors that created those injustices is not a reason to throw out the policy as a whole.

yeah but you can't fix one injustice with another injustice. as one of SCOTUS said, when is it enough? how do you know when to stop?

What’s the injustice? That Asian Americans get into a particular school at rates well above their representation in the general population but may lose a few spots to other minorities? I don’t see that as an injustice.

Supreme Court is full of conservative hacks, so I am really not looking to them to provide a good insight into undoing systemic social injustices.

Why should a poor Asian child who is the most qualified lose their spot to a rich URM or a rich African immigrant? That isn’t righting ANY wrongs.

You have absolutely no knowledge that this is occurring.

Go check out the names of all the "Black" kids at HYPS.. Most are first gen African kids whose parents are middle class+. Sure, they are qualified, but so were the Asians that were overlooked so the schools can meet their "quota".

PP again. We are better off with a system that forces all colleges to allocate a certain % of seats to Blacks (descended of slaves on both sides) and Native Americans (both sides) subject to a higher wealth/income threshold. There should be another set aside based on wealth/income (at a lower threshold than the previous group). Assuming both of these together adds up to 10%, the remaining 90% should be open competition, metrics-based admissions.

No we don't need racial quota in the 21st century

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are African American kids born in 2005 affected by slavery other than that they were born in the US rather than somewhere Africa.

Google red lining.

You think kids today whose parents were in segregated schools have the same education and opportunities?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are African American kids born in 2005 affected by slavery other than that they were born in the US rather than somewhere Africa.

Google red lining.

You think kids today whose parents were in segregated schools have the same education and opportunities?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the Asians who make it into Ivies are international or first generation, percentage of American born Asian-American admits is lower.

This is who the white supremacy should target internationals. Most cant even speak English well enough to give an oral presentation.

You should work on your own writing skills before you attack those for whom it's a second language.

Anonymous wrote:How are African American kids born in 2005 affected by slavery other than that they were born in the US rather than somewhere Africa.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are African American kids born in 2005 affected by slavery other than that they were born in the US rather than somewhere Africa.

I am honestly shocked people are still asking this. Google “21st century impacts of slavery in the US” if you really want to learn more about the topic. There are multiple scholarly articles written about it.

Anonymous wrote:How are African American kids born in 2005 affected by slavery other than that they were born in the US rather than somewhere Africa.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the Asians who make it into Ivies are international or first generation, percentage of American born Asian-American admits is lower.

This is who the white supremacy should target internationals. Most cant even speak English well enough to give an oral presentation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t mean to sound rude but who cares? I will be perfectly honest that in my view, the goal of affirmative action is to fix the systemic injustices created by slavery (and other racial injustices) where those injustices still exist for minority groups. If one particular minority group is no longer impacted by the past injustices perpetrated against them, then that is not a reason to scrap a policy that helps other minority groups. No longer benefiting from a particular policy aimed to increase social justice and right the past errors that created those injustices is not a reason to throw out the policy as a whole.

yeah but you can't fix one injustice with another injustice. as one of SCOTUS said, when is it enough? how do you know when to stop?

What’s the injustice? That Asian Americans get into a particular school at rates well above their representation in the general population but may lose a few spots to other minorities? I don’t see that as an injustice.

Supreme Court is full of conservative hacks, so I am really not looking to them to provide a good insight into undoing systemic social injustices.

So we should only allow % reflecting group's population? Good lord.

Agree with you on this. Admission should be a color blind and ethnically blind process. Let kids in because they qualify.

I don't pick my surgeons based on the color of their skin, their gender or anything else that is superficial. I pick them because they are good at their work.

Anonymous wrote:Many of the Asians who make it into Ivies are international or first generation, percentage of American born Asian-American admits is lower.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t mean to sound rude but who cares? I will be perfectly honest that in my view, the goal of affirmative action is to fix the systemic injustices created by slavery (and other racial injustices) where those injustices still exist for minority groups. If one particular minority group is no longer impacted by the past injustices perpetrated against them, then that is not a reason to scrap a policy that helps other minority groups. No longer benefiting from a particular policy aimed to increase social justice and right the past errors that created those injustices is not a reason to throw out the policy as a whole.

Actually, that is not what AA is.

AA means you can't advertise a job only in Bethesda (I know a simplistic example) and then wonder why everybody that applies is white. You have to make an effort to reach out to everybody.

AA means if you are hiring and there are 3 equally qualified applicants and you have a choice between 2 white males and 1 black male and the rest of your staff is white, pick the black applicant.

AA means you can't create selection criteria that is essentially impossible for 1 group of people.

AA does not mean you are selecting less qualified applications.

AA means that you create a process for selection that gives everybody a chance.

When JoeB decided to appoint a black supreme court justice it did not mean find a less qualified person it meant I know there is a qualified black person in all of the US, find them. Also their experiences will bring a perspective to the court that actually elevates it.

I know you and I probably agree but I wanted to point that out to the others.

You don’t actually believe that do you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What needs to be done is to improve quality of K-12 education for every poor kid, social engineering at elite colleges to benefit a select few isn't helping masses. It only makes look like blacks don't deserve what they get even when they make it on merit. It also takes away from how ivies are filling up schools with kids of alumni, wealthy, internationals, powerful, connected and famous.

Sure, as soon as every kid in the country has access to an education equal to that offered in Arlington and Montgomery counties, I agree that it would be okay to drop affirmative action in education (but not employment). But not one day before that happens.