Anonymous
11/29/2022 21:01
Subject: Re:Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the study mildly interesting, but quite amusing as both Stacy Dale and Alan Krueger hold degrees from Ivy League schools including Princeton, Harvard, and Cornell.
I'm sure they sent their own children to third tier directional schools in order to open spots for kids who could better benefit
Irrelevant to the importance of the study.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 20:43
Subject: Re:Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Attending and graduating from an Ivy League school generates opportunities. Whether or not one takes advantage of those opportunities is an individual matter, not a criticism of Ivy League schools.
Attending any college generates opportunities. Every college has alumni networks.
So all colleges are the same with respect to job & career opportunities ?
Major matters much more
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3
Harvard English: $43845
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?232186-George-Mason-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
GMU CS: $83185
Meanwhile,
GMU English: $28,000
Harvard CS: $160,000
Rofl
Anonymous
11/29/2022 18:41
Subject: Re:Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Attending and graduating from an Ivy League school generates opportunities. Whether or not one takes advantage of those opportunities is an individual matter, not a criticism of Ivy League schools.
Attending any college generates opportunities. Every college has alumni networks.
So all colleges are the same with respect to job & career opportunities ?
Major matters much more
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3
Harvard English: $43845
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?232186-George-Mason-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
GMU CS: $83185
Majors matter and school matters
Harvard CS: $163896
Post college salary is self reporting. So why would anyone care what the data is saying.
Its at least data by DoE and much better that stuff out of random people's arses
But where is the DoE getting there data? I assume the schools.
It is associated with those who have federally backed student loans. It is not all students.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 18:39
Subject: Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:By definition, Harvard and Yale are no longer top universities.
Both opted to withdraw from the USNWR ratings.
No they don't have balls to do that.
That was only for law schools as I know
I'd love it if they did it for undergraduate followed by Princeton, Stanford, etc. That might cause it to crumble.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 18:36
Subject: Re:Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Attending and graduating from an Ivy League school generates opportunities. Whether or not one takes advantage of those opportunities is an individual matter, not a criticism of Ivy League schools.
Attending any college generates opportunities. Every college has alumni networks.
So all colleges are the same with respect to job & career opportunities ?
Major matters much more
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3
Harvard English: $43845
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?232186-George-Mason-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
GMU CS: $83185
Majors matter and school matters
Harvard CS: $163896
Post college salary is self reporting. So why would anyone care what the data is saying.
Its at least data by DoE and much better that stuff out of random people's arses
But where is the DoE getting there data? I assume the schools.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 16:31
Subject: Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:By definition, Harvard and Yale are no longer top universities.
Both opted to withdraw from the USNWR ratings.
LOL
Keep telling yourself that. People who ONLY use things like USNWR ratings to evaluate the quality of a school are relying on very limited criteria. It’s helpful, sure, but it doesn’t define “top” in and of itself.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 16:29
Subject: Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with having some institutions available for super academically oriented geeks and nerds to go study together and push forward their education at a high level with excellent resources, professors, and peers.
If it is not for you or your student that is OK. But for some kids, a very high level institution of higher learning is a very valuable resource nto help them reach their full potential.
These aren't super nerd cells, most admissions are on sports, legacy, affirmative action, donation, connection, fame quotas.
There are nerds in abundance, including needs from all those groups. It's wonderful and many take very good advantage of the opportunities available.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 16:26
Subject: Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:By definition, Harvard and Yale are no longer top universities.
Both opted to withdraw from the USNWR ratings.
No they don't have balls to do that.
That was only for law schools as I know
Anonymous
11/29/2022 16:23
Subject: Ivies aren't the best
By definition, Harvard and Yale are no longer top universities.
Both opted to withdraw from the USNWR ratings.
Both opted to withdraw from the USNWR ratings.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 12:41
Subject: Re:Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Attending and graduating from an Ivy League school generates opportunities. Whether or not one takes advantage of those opportunities is an individual matter, not a criticism of Ivy League schools.
Attending any college generates opportunities. Every college has alumni networks.
So all colleges are the same with respect to job & career opportunities ?
Major matters much more
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3
Harvard English: $43845
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?232186-George-Mason-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
GMU CS: $83185
Majors matter and school matters
Harvard CS: $163896
Post college salary is self reporting. So why would anyone care what the data is saying.
Its at least data by DoE and much better that stuff out of random people's arses
Anonymous
11/29/2022 12:39
Subject: Re:Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Attending and graduating from an Ivy League school generates opportunities. Whether or not one takes advantage of those opportunities is an individual matter, not a criticism of Ivy League schools.
Attending any college generates opportunities. Every college has alumni networks.
So all colleges are the same with respect to job & career opportunities ?
Major matters much more
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3
Harvard English: $43845
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?232186-George-Mason-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
GMU CS: $83185
Majors matter and school matters
Harvard CS: $163896
School doesn't matter as much as major
Major schools in Boston area
1 MIT: $111K
2 Boston College: $93K
3 Harvard: $85K
4 Northeastern: $80K
5 Boston University: $76K
6 Brandeis: $70K
7 Tufts: $67K
Its below BC and not significantly higher than NEU
Anonymous
11/29/2022 12:24
Subject: Ivies aren't the best
Ivies admit a big percentage of privileged so they can remain ivies. They don't want to become CalTech, CMU, MIT, Rice, Hopkins type academic powerhouses.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 12:20
Subject: Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with having some institutions available for super academically oriented geeks and nerds to go study together and push forward their education at a high level with excellent resources, professors, and peers.
If it is not for you or your student that is OK. But for some kids, a very high level institution of higher learning is a very valuable resource nto help them reach their full potential.
These aren't super nerd cells, most admissions are on sports, legacy, affirmative action, donation, connection, fame quotas.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 12:15
Subject: Re:Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Attending and graduating from an Ivy League school generates opportunities. Whether or not one takes advantage of those opportunities is an individual matter, not a criticism of Ivy League schools.
Attending any college generates opportunities. Every college has alumni networks.
So all colleges are the same with respect to job & career opportunities ?
Major matters much more
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3
Harvard English: $43845
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?232186-George-Mason-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
GMU CS: $83185
Majors matter and school matters
Harvard CS: $163896
Post college salary is self reporting. So why would anyone care what the data is saying.
Anonymous
11/29/2022 11:45
Subject: Re:Ivies aren't the best
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Attending and graduating from an Ivy League school generates opportunities. Whether or not one takes advantage of those opportunities is an individual matter, not a criticism of Ivy League schools.
Attending any college generates opportunities. Every college has alumni networks.
So all colleges are the same with respect to job & career opportunities ?
Major matters much more
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3
Harvard English: $43845
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?232186-George-Mason-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
GMU CS: $83185
Majors matter and school matters
Harvard CS: $163896