Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 13:30     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Those who can work in the private sector; those who can't teach.


Nice way to antagonize all the forum participants who are government workers, teachers, or SAHM's.


Was not my intention to antagonize anyone; nevertheless, it is true.


I bet you’re in your 30s. Not enough life experience to know the truth.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 13:28     Subject: colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:Go the banks’ sites and see where they’re doing OCI. It’s no secret. But as someone said, non-T25 is going to be regional/ back office.


What do you consider regional? Anything outside of NYC or anything outside of major cities like LA, Chicago, DC, Philly, Boston?
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 13:24     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:The prof is right - every college student I know interested in IB or similar, and who actually got the stellar summer internships leading to 6 figure jobs, is majoring in physics, math or engineering. When I was an undergrad, it was the econ and other liberal arts majors who hor those jobs. Eventually most people on this path get an mba anyway. An undergrad business degree has always been considered pretty weak.


I know a current junior at a small, Catholic college who got a summer internship in IB with one of the big firms. He’s a very social kid, smart, polite, charming and a great networker. He did all the footwork to get the job as the IB firms do not recruit at his school. It is possible!
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 13:23     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of truth in the old adage: Those who can work in the private sector; those who can't teach.


I’ve done both. Overall, the people who went into PhD programs in econ are smarter than those who went into banking. There are more duds among those who went into industry.


Of course they are.

But PhDs working at hedge funds are smarter than PhDs working in academia.


Which “hedge funds?” There are many mid PhD dropouts working at family offices.


Renaissance, Jane Street, Two Sigma etc. They probably make 10-20 times what Ph.Ds at academia make.


The top .5% of hedge fund managers are smart. Therefore hedge fund managers who didn't get PhDs are smarter than economists.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 12:55     Subject: colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
^Also, U Rochester has a fledgling undergrad business program that isn't ranked here, very much under the radar.

TCU's undergrad business program seems to be on the rise overall, with increasing numbers ending up in NYC, though geography and lower rank obviously point more toward Dallas and Austin.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 12:52     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/4/

Above is a great reference with some extra considerations.
Looks like Boston College is missing for some reason. I think that's one of the best option outside of T50
Tufts doesn't have undergrad business but might be a good option.

BC CSOM failed to submit their data for last year's ranking. (Lame. No excuse.) The year before, I think BC was somewhere around 13.

P&Q usually releases its new ranking in Dec or Jan, depending on the year. (Last two yrs, they published in Jan, delays in getting data from schools due to covid.)
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 09:10     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of truth in the old adage: Those who can work in the private sector; those who can't teach.


I’ve done both. Overall, the people who went into PhD programs in econ are smarter than those who went into banking. There are more duds among those who went into industry.


Of course they are.

But PhDs working at hedge funds are smarter than PhDs working in academia.


Which “hedge funds?” There are many mid PhD dropouts working at family offices.


Renaissance, Jane Street, Two Sigma etc. They probably make 10-20 times what Ph.Ds at academia make.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 09:08     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Dumb question but do you generally need to have charisma, be really put-together, good looking, outgoing, etc. to get these jobs?
The kids I know fit this description but I have a very small sample.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 08:51     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/4/

Above is a great reference with some extra considerations.
Looks like Boston College is missing for some reason. I think that's one of the best option outside of T50
Tufts doesn't have undergrad business but might be a good option.


outside of T25
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2022 08:41     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/4/

Above is a great reference with some extra considerations.
Looks like Boston College is missing for some reason. I think that's one of the best option outside of T50
Tufts doesn't have undergrad business but might be a good option.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 22:56     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of truth in the old adage: Those who can work in the private sector; those who can't teach.


I’ve done both. Overall, the people who went into PhD programs in econ are smarter than those who went into banking. There are more duds among those who went into industry.


Of course they are.

But PhDs working at hedge funds are smarter than PhDs working in academia.


Which “hedge funds?” There are many mid PhD dropouts working at family offices.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 22:41     Subject: colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:probably the schools with strong alumni support on wall street, but like to hear thoughts on what people see. Bucknell, W&L, Kelly, BC, ‘Nova? Assume NYU is top 25


Marist
Baruch
St. John’s
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 20:58     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prof is right - every college student I know interested in IB or similar, and who actually got the stellar summer internships leading to 6 figure jobs, is majoring in physics, math or engineering. When I was an undergrad, it was the econ and other liberal arts majors who hor those jobs. Eventually most people on this path get an mba anyway. An undergrad business degree has always been considered pretty weak.


Nope you are totally wrong

https://www.businessinsider.com/best-college-major-for-wall-street-2016-8


thanks for that SIX YEAR OLD article!


Right that's old news, now history communications psychology english anthropology are it
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 20:56     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prof is right - every college student I know interested in IB or similar, and who actually got the stellar summer internships leading to 6 figure jobs, is majoring in physics, math or engineering. When I was an undergrad, it was the econ and other liberal arts majors who hor those jobs. Eventually most people on this path get an mba anyway. An undergrad business degree has always been considered pretty weak.


Nope you are totally wrong

https://www.businessinsider.com/best-college-major-for-wall-street-2016-8


thanks for that SIX YEAR OLD article!


LOL anyone actually thinks significant difference might have happend for the past a few years for some reason
???????????????????????????????????????????????
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 20:07     Subject: Re:colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prof is right - every college student I know interested in IB or similar, and who actually got the stellar summer internships leading to 6 figure jobs, is majoring in physics, math or engineering. When I was an undergrad, it was the econ and other liberal arts majors who hor those jobs. Eventually most people on this path get an mba anyway. An undergrad business degree has always been considered pretty weak.


Nope you are totally wrong

https://www.businessinsider.com/best-college-major-for-wall-street-2016-8


thanks for that SIX YEAR OLD article!