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Anonymous wrote:Why are the hostile PPs so insistent on giving people stuff they don’t want?

Thankfully I don't know anyone crazy and selfish enough to "not want gifts". So it's not a problem.

I don’t understand this hostility

+1 “Selfish enough to not want gifts?” How does that work? I’m with OP. I don’t want anything. Save your time and money. I want to spend time and visit and talk and eat/drink together. But, please, just stop with the stuff.

It's not that you and OP don't want gifts or things - you only want the things that you have selected, that meet your needs, wants, and requirements to be organic, ethically sourced, sustainable, etc. Other people's tastes won't be acceptable so you don't want them. We hear, loud and clear.

Anonymous wrote:This is a spin off from the de-cluttering thread. I value people who treat me well and have been there for me and they are the gifts. They are also the people who truly respect a 'no gift" policy. The gift is spending time with hem laughing, enjoying a good meal and creating positive memories.

Then there are the relatives who aren't particularly nice people who insist, despite requests, on giving us stuff. It's usually stuff you cannot easily donate at those bins and it is work to find someone on freecycle who wants it or a donation place that wants it. Then there is the added horror of knowing it was likely made by exploited children or poor adults in China, some of whom may be beaten into submission. I refuse to add to the environment problem by throwing it out. They throw a fit and try to create drama when you decline the gift and say, "thanks, but we don't accept gifts." When it is sent by mail it adds a whole other layer with all the waste that comes with shipping it.

Please, for the sake of all of us who care about the environment and who care about exploited workers in other countries and who don't want endless clutter, if we say "no gifts" please just respect that. You can be a gift by being kind, understanding and loving. If you have family who love gift exchanges have at it. Just please from now on if somebody says "no gifts" respect it.

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Anonymous wrote:All you people who have exactly zero things in your life that you want but don’t need and consequently don’t purchase for yourself must be so rich. That’s what gift giving is for — for the things that you want, be they stuff, experience, or consumable that you can’t afford yourself or can’t justify spending your money on even if you could afford it. Consider instead of just instantly purchasing all the things you want and need (oh to be able to just purchase stuff like that) saving some for your Christmas list. Then you won’t need to dispose of everything people give you.

I am not rich. But the things I would like aren’t things people are going to gift me. I’d love cash to help offset the crushing expense of childcare for 2 young kids or to help pay for my dying dog’s expensive medication. As far as stuff, I’d love some nice new curtains for my family room and have my eye on an expensive dining room hutch. I don’t need some unitasker kitchen tool like a waffle iron that I have no room to store in my small kitchen, and I am particular about my clothes (I prefer eco-friendly brands over fast fashion) so I don’t really want some H&M sweater. The latter is the type of stuff people are more likely to gift.

And I’m not saying I actually expect anyone to pay my childcare or vet bills. In fact, I don’t feel entitled to anyone giving me anything! Just pointing out that I’m not so rich that I have everything I could possibly want. I would honestly prefer my friends and family not waste their own hard earned money on something I don’t really want just to check some box on giving me a gift. I’d rather they treat themselves to something than buy me something I’ll never wear.

Sell the junk you have to pay for child care then.. simple.

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Please, for the sake of all of us who care about the environment and who care about exploited workers in other countries and who don't want endless clutter, if we say "no gifts" please just respect that.

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Anonymous wrote:All you people who have exactly zero things in your life that you want but don’t need and consequently don’t purchase for yourself must be so rich. That’s what gift giving is for — for the things that you want, be they stuff, experience, or consumable that you can’t afford yourself or can’t justify spending your money on even if you could afford it. Consider instead of just instantly purchasing all the things you want and need (oh to be able to just purchase stuff like that) saving some for your Christmas list. Then you won’t need to dispose of everything people give you.

I am not rich. But the things I would like aren’t things people are going to gift me. I’d love cash to help offset the crushing expense of childcare for 2 young kids or to help pay for my dying dog’s expensive medication. As far as stuff, I’d love some nice new curtains for my family room and have my eye on an expensive dining room hutch. I don’t need some unitasker kitchen tool like a waffle iron that I have no room to store in my small kitchen, and I am particular about my clothes (I prefer eco-friendly brands over fast fashion) so I don’t really want some H&M sweater. The latter is the type of stuff people are more likely to gift.

And I’m not saying I actually expect anyone to pay my childcare or vet bills. In fact, I don’t feel entitled to anyone giving me anything! Just pointing out that I’m not so rich that I have everything I could possibly want. I would honestly prefer my friends and family not waste their own hard earned money on something I don’t really want just to check some box on giving me a gift. I’d rather they treat themselves to something than buy me something I’ll never wear.

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP, for your inclusive thread title.

The rest of you:

Do better.

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Anonymous wrote:All you people who have exactly zero things in your life that you want but don’t need and consequently don’t purchase for yourself must be so rich. That’s what gift giving is for — for the things that you want, be they stuff, experience, or consumable that you can’t afford yourself or can’t justify spending your money on even if you could afford it. Consider instead of just instantly purchasing all the things you want and need (oh to be able to just purchase stuff like that) saving some for your Christmas list. Then you won’t need to dispose of everything people give you.

I am not rich. But the things I would like aren’t things people are going to gift me. I’d love cash to help offset the crushing expense of childcare for 2 young kids or to help pay for my dying dog’s expensive medication. As far as stuff, I’d love some nice new curtains for my family room and have my eye on an expensive dining room hutch. I don’t need some unitasker kitchen tool like a waffle iron that I have no room to store in my small kitchen, and I am particular about my clothes (I prefer eco-friendly brands over fast fashion) so I don’t really want some H&M sweater. The latter is the type of stuff people are more likely to gift.

And I’m not saying I actually expect anyone to pay my childcare or vet bills. In fact, I don’t feel entitled to anyone giving me anything! Just pointing out that I’m not so rich that I have everything I could possibly want. I would honestly prefer my friends and family not waste their own hard earned money on something I don’t really want just to check some box on giving me a gift. I’d rather they treat themselves to something than buy me something I’ll never wear.

Ahhh, so you just want more expensive stuff and are upset because you aren't getting those items. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:All you people who have exactly zero things in your life that you want but don’t need and consequently don’t purchase for yourself must be so rich. That’s what gift giving is for — for the things that you want, be they stuff, experience, or consumable that you can’t afford yourself or can’t justify spending your money on even if you could afford it. Consider instead of just instantly purchasing all the things you want and need (oh to be able to just purchase stuff like that) saving some for your Christmas list. Then you won’t need to dispose of everything people give you.

I am not rich. But the things I would like aren’t things people are going to gift me. I’d love cash to help offset the crushing expense of childcare for 2 young kids or to help pay for my dying dog’s expensive medication. As far as stuff, I’d love some nice new curtains for my family room and have my eye on an expensive dining room hutch. I don’t need some unitasker kitchen tool like a waffle iron that I have no room to store in my small kitchen, and I am particular about my clothes (I prefer eco-friendly brands over fast fashion) so I don’t really want some H&M sweater. The latter is the type of stuff people are more likely to gift.

And I’m not saying I actually expect anyone to pay my childcare or vet bills. In fact, I don’t feel entitled to anyone giving me anything! Just pointing out that I’m not so rich that I have everything I could possibly want. I would honestly prefer my friends and family not waste their own hard earned money on something I don’t really want just to check some box on giving me a gift. I’d rather they treat themselves to something than buy me something I’ll never wear.

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Anonymous wrote:Gift giving is for the giver, not the receiver. Accept the gift graciously and donate it the following week if you must.

This would be my go-to response as well, PP. But OP insists that some of these gifts can't be donated. Like a different PP, I want to know what OP's being given that can't be donated anywhere at all. Or how much OP has actually tried to donate whatever these items are. Wondering if OP is offended by the idea of using up gas to drive to drop off donations anywhere but at the most convenient "drop box" in the nearest grocery store parking lot....

Not OP, but I would be annoyed at having to take extra time out of already busy day to donate something when I specifically asked for no gifts. Everyone keeps saying people who don’t want gifts are the selfish ones but seems the other way around - imposing their desires on unwilling others to give crap no one wants

Well, if the gift is already in your possession:

You can sit there and be annoyed staring peevishly at that unwanted gift.

Or you can actually live your espoused values and make an effort to donate it despite your busy day.

Which will you choose?

Never espoused any values about donating things, just that I do not want to receive gifts. In fact I have a closet full of stuff from my in-laws from various xmas past that I’ve never gotten around to dealing with.