Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elrich winning early and mail in with 77% of the vote. Sorry, Sully is not going to win 80% of ED votes.
The Democrats crushed it in Maryland. Everywhere on the ballot.
Trone?
AA Co Exec?
Frederick Co Exec?
Those are the ones I’m watching.
Republican victories in all 3 races. I think Maryland democrats need to pay close attention to what Calvin Ball is doing in Howard County. Less ideological, more competent, more likable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
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All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
The decision had already been made by the mayor. Everything that has happened since, the petition, the lies on the neighborhood email lists, etc, are what is divisive. If you want to come together and heal, then the way to do it is to understand the bike lanes are happening and help make the design as good as possible. Neither the ANC, the Councilmember-Elect nor the Mayor are reversing the decision.
You're right. The lies have been what is so divisive. The lies about popularity. The lies about a mandate. The lies about community awareness. The lies about impact. We cannot come together until you all stop the lies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
The decision had already been made by the mayor. Everything that has happened since, the petition, the lies on the neighborhood email lists, etc, are what is divisive. If you want to come together and heal, then the way to do it is to understand the bike lanes are happening and help make the design as good as possible. Neither the ANC, the Councilmember-Elect nor the Mayor are reversing the decision.
You're right. The lies have been what is so divisive. The lies about popularity. The lies about a mandate. The lies about community awareness. The lies about impact. We cannot come together until you all stop the lies.
Kind of looks like a mandate, given the many victories of bike lane proponents up and down the avenue.
This is just asinine. No one was even thinking about bike lanes in these elections. And the leading progressive on the city council was defeated. The city council is going to swing back towards the center after all this.
The republican candidate literally had it on his signs and he captured a few votes.
Several ANC Commissioners made opposing them the cornerstone of their campaigns, most of them lost.
There are at least two threads in this forum that talk about the bike lanes and the various candidates positions, and there is the Frumin v Krucoff thread that also talks about them.
But sure, no one was thinking about them. At all.
Pfft. Nobody cares about ANC races or any of the Republican candidates. The only thing that matters that happened yesterday was the Silverman, the queen of leftwing white people, was defeated in favor of a business friendly Democrat. That's a political earthquake.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
Okay. Name all of the anti-bike lane on CT candidates that won. If you can't then bike lanes on CT move forward.
Rick Nash.
That is it. And he lives off Wisconsin Avenue, but happens to be in 3C where Connecticut ave is the focus.
The most important left winger in the entire city government, Elissa Silverman, was thrown out on her ear and replaced with a business friendly centrist Democrat.
Elissa Silverman lost a lot of votes not as she claims because big money funded an opponent but because of the way she supported the ANC redistricting task force which was to many observers undemocratic. She didn’t want to hear why DC residents objected to the gerrymandering taking place, the tilted composition of the task force, and she sent obnoxious responses to voters who lodged complaints. That kind of treatment turns people off. I voted for her in the past but not this time and never again.
She udner performed across the city and particularly east of the river. Her loss has less than nothing to do with bike lanes, which she probably never mentioned once in the last 8 months.
DP. You seem to be too infatuated with bike lanes, because your response appears to be a non-sequitor to the PP who was pointing out that people maybe were not happy with her role and behavior as part of the redistributing task force. Unless you think that was somehow specifically about bike lanes? There is another PP mentioning that Silverman never talks about bike lanes, so how could her work on redistricting be about something that she never talks about?
I think you might have missed the most important point, which was the PP saying, “she sent obnoxious responses to voters who lodged complaints.” People objecting to her behavior has been a pretty consistent them of complaints lodged against her, not anything policy related.
I don't know who is responding to whom at this point but I was an earlier poster.
Elissa is a progressive and while I think she was definitely pro-bike lane it was something that was not a priority for her and she barely ever spoke up about so I really don't think it impacted her re-election one way or the other.
Having dealt with her I will echo the above comment that she was a bit obnoxious though I was not sure it if was arrogance of flightiness but she always struck me as someone who was in way over her heard on the DC Council and this scandal about the Ward 3 poll to me provided further evidence of that.
But I really doubt the poll or the re-districting had much to do with the results - I think Bonds and McDuffie consolidated the black vote while McLaughlin got 10% of the white vote which primarily came from Silverman and doomed her.
I was pretty underwhelmed with the entire field, especially Bonds who has no business being on the DC Council at all.
It is quite insulting to say that Black voters vote by race. The truth is that Black voters will loyally support white politicians when they have a reason to do so. If Silverman had spent any amount of time over the last 4 years building alliances in Wards 7 and 8 instead of creating enemies, she would have won re-election. It is that simple. But that would have involved two things that were impossible for her. First and foremost was to listen to people and second would be to put others priorities ahead of her own.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
Okay. Name all of the anti-bike lane on CT candidates that won. If you can't then bike lanes on CT move forward.
Rick Nash.
That is it. And he lives off Wisconsin Avenue, but happens to be in 3C where Connecticut ave is the focus.
Have you asked Rick Nash if he is anti bikes and bike lanes? He works for Conservation International, an environmental organization.
LOL - working for an environmental organization (or voting Democratic) does not make you an environmentalist or biker for that matter. Words and Deeds matter and Nash made it very clear he is opposed to re-making Connecticut Avenue into a corridor that is safer for all of its users.
Lol you just can't stop yourself from lying can you. It is this sort of rhetorical bullcrap that people are sick and tired of.
Again LOL - I've met Rick Nash and seen what he drives and followed this election pretty closely - he didn't even tout himself as an environmentalist in the debate or articulate how his positions are consistent with environmentalism but his positions on bike lanes and in-fill development are not the green position and he isn't even correct about DC's tree canopy which is something he mentioned a couple of times and cites on his website.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
Okay. Name all of the anti-bike lane on CT candidates that won. If you can't then bike lanes on CT move forward.
Rick Nash.
That is it. And he lives off Wisconsin Avenue, but happens to be in 3C where Connecticut ave is the focus.
The most important left winger in the entire city government, Elissa Silverman, was thrown out on her ear and replaced with a business friendly centrist Democrat.
Elissa Silverman lost a lot of votes not as she claims because big money funded an opponent but because of the way she supported the ANC redistricting task force which was to many observers undemocratic. She didn’t want to hear why DC residents objected to the gerrymandering taking place, the tilted composition of the task force, and she sent obnoxious responses to voters who lodged complaints. That kind of treatment turns people off. I voted for her in the past but not this time and never again.
She udner performed across the city and particularly east of the river. Her loss has less than nothing to do with bike lanes, which she probably never mentioned once in the last 8 months.
DP. You seem to be too infatuated with bike lanes, because your response appears to be a non-sequitor to the PP who was pointing out that people maybe were not happy with her role and behavior as part of the redistributing task force. Unless you think that was somehow specifically about bike lanes? There is another PP mentioning that Silverman never talks about bike lanes, so how could her work on redistricting be about something that she never talks about?
I think you might have missed the most important point, which was the PP saying, “she sent obnoxious responses to voters who lodged complaints.” People objecting to her behavior has been a pretty consistent them of complaints lodged against her, not anything policy related.
I don't know who is responding to whom at this point but I was an earlier poster.
Elissa is a progressive and while I think she was definitely pro-bike lane it was something that was not a priority for her and she barely ever spoke up about so I really don't think it impacted her re-election one way or the other.
Having dealt with her I will echo the above comment that she was a bit obnoxious though I was not sure it if was arrogance of flightiness but she always struck me as someone who was in way over her heard on the DC Council and this scandal about the Ward 3 poll to me provided further evidence of that.
But I really doubt the poll or the re-districting had much to do with the results - I think Bonds and McDuffie consolidated the black vote while McLaughlin got 10% of the white vote which primarily came from Silverman and doomed her.
I was pretty underwhelmed with the entire field, especially Bonds who has no business being on the DC Council at all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
Okay. Name all of the anti-bike lane on CT candidates that won. If you can't then bike lanes on CT move forward.
Rick Nash.
That is it. And he lives off Wisconsin Avenue, but happens to be in 3C where Connecticut ave is the focus.
The most important left winger in the entire city government, Elissa Silverman, was thrown out on her ear and replaced with a business friendly centrist Democrat.
Elissa Silverman lost a lot of votes not as she claims because big money funded an opponent but because of the way she supported the ANC redistricting task force which was to many observers undemocratic. She didn’t want to hear why DC residents objected to the gerrymandering taking place, the tilted composition of the task force, and she sent obnoxious responses to voters who lodged complaints. That kind of treatment turns people off. I voted for her in the past but not this time and never again.
She udner performed across the city and particularly east of the river. Her loss has less than nothing to do with bike lanes, which she probably never mentioned once in the last 8 months.
DP. You seem to be too infatuated with bike lanes, because your response appears to be a non-sequitor to the PP who was pointing out that people maybe were not happy with her role and behavior as part of the redistributing task force. Unless you think that was somehow specifically about bike lanes? There is another PP mentioning that Silverman never talks about bike lanes, so how could her work on redistricting be about something that she never talks about?
I think you might have missed the most important point, which was the PP saying, “she sent obnoxious responses to voters who lodged complaints.” People objecting to her behavior has been a pretty consistent them of complaints lodged against her, not anything policy related.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
Okay. Name all of the anti-bike lane on CT candidates that won. If you can't then bike lanes on CT move forward.
Rick Nash.
That is it. And he lives off Wisconsin Avenue, but happens to be in 3C where Connecticut ave is the focus.
The most important left winger in the entire city government, Elissa Silverman, was thrown out on her ear and replaced with a business friendly centrist Democrat.
Elissa Silverman lost a lot of votes not as she claims because big money funded an opponent but because of the way she supported the ANC redistricting task force which was to many observers undemocratic. She didn’t want to hear why DC residents objected to the gerrymandering taking place, the tilted composition of the task force, and she sent obnoxious responses to voters who lodged complaints. That kind of treatment turns people off. I voted for her in the past but not this time and never again.
She udner performed across the city and particularly east of the river. Her loss has less than nothing to do with bike lanes, which she probably never mentioned once in the last 8 months.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
The decision had already been made by the mayor. Everything that has happened since, the petition, the lies on the neighborhood email lists, etc, are what is divisive. If you want to come together and heal, then the way to do it is to understand the bike lanes are happening and help make the design as good as possible. Neither the ANC, the Councilmember-Elect nor the Mayor are reversing the decision.
You're right. The lies have been what is so divisive. The lies about popularity. The lies about a mandate. The lies about community awareness. The lies about impact. We cannot come together until you all stop the lies.
Kind of looks like a mandate, given the many victories of bike lane proponents up and down the avenue.
This is just asinine. No one was even thinking about bike lanes in these elections. And the leading progressive on the city council was defeated. The city council is going to swing back towards the center after all this.
The republican candidate literally had it on his signs and he captured a few votes.
Several ANC Commissioners made opposing them the cornerstone of their campaigns, most of them lost.
There are at least two threads in this forum that talk about the bike lanes and the various candidates positions, and there is the Frumin v Krucoff thread that also talks about them.
But sure, no one was thinking about them. At all.
Pfft. Nobody cares about ANC races or any of the Republican candidates. The only thing that matters that happened yesterday was the Silverman, the queen of leftwing white people, was defeated in favor of a business friendly Democrat. That's a political earthquake.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
Okay. Name all of the anti-bike lane on CT candidates that won. If you can't then bike lanes on CT move forward.
Rick Nash.
That is it. And he lives off Wisconsin Avenue, but happens to be in 3C where Connecticut ave is the focus.
Have you asked Rick Nash if he is anti bikes and bike lanes? He works for Conservation International, an environmental organization.
LOL - working for an environmental organization (or voting Democratic) does not make you an environmentalist or biker for that matter. Words and Deeds matter and Nash made it very clear he is opposed to re-making Connecticut Avenue into a corridor that is safer for all of its users.
Lol you just can't stop yourself from lying can you. It is this sort of rhetorical bullcrap that people are sick and tired of.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
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Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
The decision had already been made by the mayor. Everything that has happened since, the petition, the lies on the neighborhood email lists, etc, are what is divisive. If you want to come together and heal, then the way to do it is to understand the bike lanes are happening and help make the design as good as possible. Neither the ANC, the Councilmember-Elect nor the Mayor are reversing the decision.
You're right. The lies have been what is so divisive. The lies about popularity. The lies about a mandate. The lies about community awareness. The lies about impact. We cannot come together until you all stop the lies.
Kind of looks like a mandate, given the many victories of bike lane proponents up and down the avenue.
This is just asinine. No one was even thinking about bike lanes in these elections. And the leading progressive on the city council was defeated. The city council is going to swing back towards the center after all this.
The republican candidate literally had it on his signs and he captured a few votes.
Several ANC Commissioners made opposing them the cornerstone of their campaigns, most of them lost.
There are at least two threads in this forum that talk about the bike lanes and the various candidates positions, and there is the Frumin v Krucoff thread that also talks about them.
But sure, no one was thinking about them. At all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
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All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
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All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
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Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
Okay. Name all of the anti-bike lane on CT candidates that won. If you can't then bike lanes on CT move forward.
Rick Nash.
That is it. And he lives off Wisconsin Avenue, but happens to be in 3C where Connecticut ave is the focus.
The most important left winger in the entire city government, Elissa Silverman, was thrown out on her ear and replaced with a business friendly centrist Democrat.
Elissa Silverman lost a lot of votes not as she claims because big money funded an opponent but because of the way she supported the ANC redistricting task force which was to many observers undemocratic. She didn’t want to hear why DC residents objected to the gerrymandering taking place, the tilted composition of the task force, and she sent obnoxious responses to voters who lodged complaints. That kind of treatment turns people off. I voted for her in the past but not this time and never again.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bike Lane mafia is not doing so great in Ward 3. Maybe time for a real conversation?
?
All of the ANC's will still be pro-bike lane.
Frumin out-polled Cheh and is pro-bike lane.
IOW, bike lanes are happening.
The ANC races are 50/50 on bike lanes. Siddiqui won by 6 votes. Tandaric lost. The neighbors are sharply divided, now they are actually paying attention. Time for a reset.
It appears the pro bike folks like both candidates in that race:
https://twitter.com/Ward3Bikes/status/1580940779853582336
And Siddiqui was the biggest pro-bike person on ANC 3C and he had an opponent that spent a lot of money and had a lot of support from the Macwood contingent and CPCA/CPHS crowd and still won.
So yeah I think the pro bike crowd is pretty happy with this outcome.
How can they be happy? The competitive races show the community its sharply divided. We can now dispense with the “wide community support” narrative. The bike crowd should be embarrassed for the scam they’ve run the past two years.
Repost from page 2 of this thread:
Funny. I was just telling a friend today: "Next NIMBY talking point: elections don't really matter."
Quite the opposite. The elections DI matter. They show the community is split on the issue. We’re all neighbors and if we make policy on the basis of 51%-49% votes, this will not be a pleasant place to live. Now is the time to heal, come together, and find consensus on how to make Connecticut Ave safer: more enforcement, dedicated bus lanes, increased bike amenities around metro, etc. There are many places for agreement.
The decision had already been made by the mayor. Everything that has happened since, the petition, the lies on the neighborhood email lists, etc, are what is divisive. If you want to come together and heal, then the way to do it is to understand the bike lanes are happening and help make the design as good as possible. Neither the ANC, the Councilmember-Elect nor the Mayor are reversing the decision.
You're right. The lies have been what is so divisive. The lies about popularity. The lies about a mandate. The lies about community awareness. The lies about impact. We cannot come together until you all stop the lies.
Kind of looks like a mandate, given the many victories of bike lane proponents up and down the avenue.
This is just asinine. No one was even thinking about bike lanes in these elections. And the leading progressive on the city council was defeated. The city council is going to swing back towards the center after all this.
