Don’t you have enough pain and misery in your life without having to add more? Your eyes will glaze over like your mother’s, mindlessly skimming then turning the pages just so you can brag, “I’ve read Ulysses!”Anonymous wrote:I am going to re-approach Ulysses by James Joyce. I studied one chapter as part of my undergrad degree and I think it needs to be read / looked at in pieces, slowly. My mother said she could sit down and read it start to finish, but I don't know genuinely how much she was able to take in that way.
Anyone else read the whole thing, got advice?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just reread Wuthering Heights and I was so disappointed! I remember it as a favorite when I read it in my 20s. Now, in my 40s, I was so annoyed at all the characters. I didn't find Heathcliff and Cathy's love at all convincing. All the characters were bitter, vengeful, and bad people. It was a totally unenjoyable reading experience. Bummer!
Agreed. I remember hating it in high school and rolling my eyes over people being all swoony over it. And teenage me still wants to know exactly what he did with that dead body.
Anonymous wrote:I just reread Wuthering Heights and I was so disappointed! I remember it as a favorite when I read it in my 20s. Now, in my 40s, I was so annoyed at all the characters. I didn't find Heathcliff and Cathy's love at all convincing. All the characters were bitter, vengeful, and bad people. It was a totally unenjoyable reading experience. Bummer!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just reread Wuthering Heights and I was so disappointed! I remember it as a favorite when I read it in my 20s. Now, in my 40s, I was so annoyed at all the characters. I didn't find Heathcliff and Cathy's love at all convincing. All the characters were bitter, vengeful, and bad people. It was a totally unenjoyable reading experience. Bummer!
I want to read it again, but I think you can't approach it as a love story. You have to approach it like they are sort of anti-heroes. Hurt people hurt people, even hot and sexy hurt people living in the moors. I think Heathcliff is just a really screwed up person with a lot of childhood damage who probably doesn't have the internal tools to ever be happy, and Cathy is immature and kind of a mean girl, right? Her real tragedy is that she dies before she really gets a chance to sort her sh*t out. If you reframe it as a tragedy of human mistakes, rather than a love story, maybe it's better? Or maybe I'll also just be irritated by them.
My favorite book about the moors might now be Secret Garden. I love the housekeeper. It's a super fun book to read out loud.
Anonymous wrote:Read Sula and now tackling Song of Solomon both by Toni Morrison who won the Nobel prize for literature. Are they classics? They read difficult in the grand style of difficult 20th century reads like Ulysses and Faulkner full of deep cultural references and rife with symbolism. Are they "important" novels? Feels like it. Are they "good" ? ask me when I'm done. (and I can't wait to be done). It's very inside-out- like, the black experience in america from the intimate interiors of 20th century black americans. It's important to give voices to these feelings. But difficult stream-of-consciousness reading. With some magical realism and post-modernism thrown in.
Anonymous wrote:Read Sula and now tackling Song of Solomon both by Toni Morrison who won the Nobel prize for literature. Are they classics? They read difficult in the grand style of difficult 20th century reads like Ulysses and Faulkner full of deep cultural references and rife with symbolism. Are they "important" novels? Feels like it. Are they "good" ? ask me when I'm done. (and I can't wait to be done). It's very inside-out- like, the black experience in america from the intimate interiors of 20th century black americans. It's important to give voices to these feelings. But difficult stream-of-consciousness reading. With some magical realism and post-modernism thrown in.
Anonymous wrote:Kate Chopin's The Awakening.
I came away from it wondering if it was rich people's problems.
Then there's Charles Dickens. Almost all his works seem to include hidden/unknown identities and massive bequests or inheritances based on that revelation. I suppose this was the dream for the average English working class Victorian.
Anonymous wrote:I just reread Wuthering Heights and I was so disappointed! I remember it as a favorite when I read it in my 20s. Now, in my 40s, I was so annoyed at all the characters. I didn't find Heathcliff and Cathy's love at all convincing. All the characters were bitter, vengeful, and bad people. It was a totally unenjoyable reading experience. Bummer!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really enjoyed Middlemarch recently. I read Silas Marner years ago and always wanted to read more George Eliot but like others kept turning to shorter options. Once I started I was smitten and happy to go along for the journey. The dialogue was amusing and clever. I found the characters very relatable and the relationships felt authentic.
Middlemarch is so good!
did middle march not make you so sad though?? Like reading David copper field just gives me a lump in my throat of dread. I remember reading middle march through one of those epic everything shuts down Dc winter storms and stopping to bawl my eyes out. I wouldn't callout enjoyable.
I do like dickens other books and find him hilarious- the one about the debtors prison little dorrit is SO SO funny and making references to it kept my siblings up while we went through probate for a dead parent. I'm reading Mrs. Dalloway for bookclub - inspired by the Wedding People.
Anonymous wrote:I am going to re-approach Ulysses by James Joyce. I studied one chapter as part of my undergrad degree and I think it needs to be read / looked at in pieces, slowly. My mother said she could sit down and read it start to finish, but I don't know genuinely how much she was able to take in that way.
Anyone else read the whole thing, got advice?