Anonymous
10/20/2022 14:04
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.
Standardized tests were listed as important before going test optional.
Ok. Apply to UVA with the "high test score."
Upon rejection, you'll find a way to blame Test Optional kids who were accepted.
If SAT scores aren't important, why are the scores going up (as they are at most test optional schools)?
They are going up because only people with tippy top scores are submitting.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 14:03
Subject: UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to the University of Virginia, apply ED. Same advice applies to Tech.
UVA does not use ED as most other schools do; only go ED at UVA if you have outstanding stats across the board.
and what are you basing this on? (Spoken as a mom who had two kids in via ED)
discussions with the school admissions office.
I think your high school admissions officer is wrong. See comment above about Dean J’s comment re being easier to get in RD if you are across the board high stats
My conversations were with UVA's admissions office.
I’ve had similar conversations with UVA admissions.
If so, explain this claim from above. I don't understand it. "UVA does not use ED as most other schools do". My perception is that it uses like all other schools - and it is seeking top GPA in most rigorous courses, top scores to report to USNWR, athletes, top-flight talent in particular areas, URMs, first generation, Questbridge, Blue Ridge Scholar and legacies coming in last as a priority.
They aren’t trying to fill their class with ED applicants. Some schools are.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 13:45
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
+1 This the answer. It’s all about GPA and class rank.
PP here. What if the GPA is 4.0?
Anonymous
10/20/2022 13:44
Subject: UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:. Explains why our 1570 DD rejected.Anonymous wrote:Middle 50% range for fall 2021 entry (admitted students):
690-750 reading and writing
700-780 math
Her score is within that range. I suggest she work hard and take it again, and then submit.
Asian.
Our instate 1540 got waited in Art & Science, then no news
Apparently, UVA wants well under 1500.
You know Asians need at lease 1580
To be considered
Asians are screwed, not just at UVA.
Anonymous
10/20/2022 07:39
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.
[b]Standardized tests were listed as important before going test optional.
+1. And here she is in 2018 saying grades aren't the whole story. http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html
It doesn’t say that at all. It’s saying that look at the transcript and not just the GPA. Makes sense to me.
“GPA is not the major factor in our review. Methodologies differ so much that it's impossible to know an applicant's academic story from the GPA. Two students with identical GPAs could have very different coursework and grades on their transcripts. This is why we talk about the transcript being the most important factor in understanding your academic preparation. The GPA attempts to summarize the work you've done, but we use the courses and grades on the transcript to fully understand your academic strength.”
Anonymous
10/19/2022 23:53
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:for 2022/23 reportedly the UVA SATs were 75th - 1520, 50th - 1470, 25th -1400. GPA 75th -4.53, 50th - 4.40, 25th -4.24
Above information was found in a different thread relating to UVA, if that helps.
I haven't seen official numbers
Anonymous
10/19/2022 23:20
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.
Standardized tests were listed as important before going test optional.
Ok. Apply to UVA with the "high test score."
Upon rejection, you'll find a way to blame Test Optional kids who were accepted.
If SAT scores aren't important, why are the scores going up (as they are at most test optional schools)?
That is in the same vein of if it isn’t urm and first gen benefiting primarily benefitting from test optional, why have record numbers of these students been admitted in the past two years?
Some people here don’t like to think critically.
Test optional is really a way for schools to admit who they want (athletes, URM, legacy) without it impacting the all important numbers they submit to USNWR.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 21:58
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.
Standardized tests were listed as important before going test optional. [/quote]
+1. And here she is in 2018 saying grades aren't the whole story. http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html
Anonymous
10/19/2022 21:54
Subject: UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to the University of Virginia, apply ED. Same advice applies to Tech.
UVA does not use ED as most other schools do; only go ED at UVA if you have outstanding stats across the board.
and what are you basing this on? (Spoken as a mom who had two kids in via ED)
discussions with the school admissions office.
I think your high school admissions officer is wrong. See comment above about Dean J’s comment re being easier to get in RD if you are across the board high stats
My conversations were with UVA's admissions office.
I’ve had similar conversations with UVA admissions.
If so, explain this claim from above. I don't understand it. "UVA does not use ED as most other schools do". My perception is that it uses like all other schools - and it is seeking top GPA in most rigorous courses, top scores to report to USNWR, athletes, top-flight talent in particular areas, URMs, first generation, Questbridge, Blue Ridge Scholar and legacies coming in last as a priority.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 19:27
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:should my kid submit an SAT score of 1560 to UVA, if apying EA?
No. That's too low. The Nova CC for two years route and guaranteed acceptance into UVa may be the better route.
+1
Anonymous
10/19/2022 19:23
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.
Standardized tests were listed as important before going test optional.
Ok. Apply to UVA with the "high test score."
Upon rejection, you'll find a way to blame Test Optional kids who were accepted.
If SAT scores aren't important, why are the scores going up (as they are at most test optional schools)?
That is in the same vein of if it isn’t urm and first gen benefiting primarily benefitting from test optional, why have record numbers of these students been admitted in the past two years?
Some people here don’t like to think critically.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 19:04
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.
Standardized tests were listed as important before going test optional.
Ok. Apply to UVA with the "high test score."
Upon rejection, you'll find a way to blame Test Optional kids who were accepted.
If SAT scores aren't important, why are the scores going up (as they are at most test optional schools)?
Anonymous
10/19/2022 18:30
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.
Standardized tests were listed as important before going test optional.
Ok. Apply to UVA with the "high test score."
Upon rejection, you'll find a way to blame Test Optional kids who were accepted.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 18:07
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.
Standardized tests were listed as important before going test optional.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 15:11
Subject: Re:UVA SAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought common wisdom was UVA prioritizes GPA over test scores?
Of course most of these high SAT kids also have very high GPA
They will not hold test optional against someone they want to admit.
But the admission rate is higher for those that submit.
That just means the top applicants are still submitting SATs, which is what we all know. It doesn't mean UVA is giving a preference.
That isn’t necessarily what it means.
All other things being equal, a high GPA, high SAT kid is going to be advantaged over a kid with the same GPA and rigor that does not submit SAT.
You have no way of backing that up. The fact is that people here are just guessing. Aside from knowing UVA admissions talks about rigor and grades being most important, you can't possibly know where in the order the rest of the stuff comes.