This reminds me of the SNL baby shower sketch where the women all talk about “the cut.” Soft waterfall in the front, Game of Thrones in the back.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

According to this, any short haircut with highlights on a white woman is a Karen haircut.

Nope. See pics above. The "Karen" tends to have super choppy layers, and is also usually striped or with really brash "natural" color. Not all short hair is a "call the manager" cut.

Karen


NOT Karen

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Anonymous wrote:OP, one way around this is to say, "I was looking at a picture of us back when ___ "(like when we were married, or 2004, etc)
"And I forgot you had your hair (long and wavy). I miss that! Can you do that next time?"

Because asking your wife to do something she did before is not as prickly as asking her to do something "else."

So, think this through. If the style you like is longer than what she has, say this to her *before* she goes in to get a haircut, not immediately after.

Also, if pressed, just tell her "This is okay but I like the other style better."

My DH has done this with me--he's careful--but I do hear what he's saying.

I do think that in general, "Men want what they married." If they dated you when your hair was long and magenta and permed 80s style, then that's what they still like. I've been married now so long and have ditched the magenta, and then the curls. Losing the perm was hard on him. I try not to ditch the length, but I've also gone gray and it looks good to everyone but him. Maybe I'll give him 80s hair on Halloween!

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This is what I've been trying to say to my DW forever. Imagine you've been ordering the same meal at a restaurant for years. Then one day they change the recipe without saying a word and expect you to like it, no matter what.

Oh stop. Your wife is not an inanimate object.

The VAST majority of women deal with men changing their hair because most men LOSE their hair. You don’t see us throwing tantrums about it. Quit being a child.

Yeah I still have all my hair and workout a lot... She's still getting exactly what she ordered. Also, I don't throw tantrums, I pout in my basement gym.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

According to this, any short haircut with highlights on a white woman is a Karen haircut.

It's quite possible she DOES want to speak to the manager.

Anonymous wrote:She must want to look serious and/or she likes the way she looks with that haircut.

I wore my hair super short of most of my life until we moved and had yet to find a salon. It grew out some, and DH (who had never commented on my hair) said how great I looked. The longer it grew, the more compliments. And this is a guy who I know loves me.

I have never worn short hair since.

How passive aggressive. I would continue to cut my h0a0ir if I wanted short hair

Short hair is NOT karen-hair. Karen-hair is choppy, over layered, between short and shoulder length, with atrocious color - mousy brown, brassy, or chunky highlights.

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Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

Yes but a lot of them are tall and thin. The average American woman is not Charlize Theron. Short hair on a short chubby woman doesn't look great.

Long unkempt hair look awful on any women, even on beauties! I see sometimes women in their 40-50s with extremely long hair (they probably thin it makes them look like Kim Kardashian). The hair is grey, no style at all and honestly they just look like witches. Andie McDowell style is nothing glamorous to me, makes her look much older!

I wear my hair shoulder length and even this long it takes a lot of care. Daily hair blower, vitamins, coloring etc.

You have difficult hair. Mine is bra strap long, thick, light brunette with baliage. I always air dry it and the maintenance is NBD - I love the olaplex 2 mask and the K18. Long hair looks good only if it's thick and healthy.

It's balayage

I used speech to text. Your hair is still cr*y, sadly.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, can you casually accompany her to the hair salon and comment on a magazine with various hair styles?

Am I the only one who would be way more annoyed with passive aggressive moves like this one than knowing my husband wasn't a fan of my haircut? I really dislike it when DH doesn't like something I'm doing but will beat around the bush so that he has plausible deniability, rather than just saying what he thinks. I want to know where I stand rather than having to wonder.

I'm a guy, and the conversation wouldn't be about hair, but I totally agree about hating the passive aggressive communication style. You can be direct and matter-of-fact without being accusatory or demanding. That kind of communication is way better than hinting or indirectly stating preferences and hoping your spouse reads your mind.

Side note: People seems confused about passive aggression. I haven't seen a single passive aggressive suggestion on here, just suggestions for white lies and hints. Passive aggressive would be DH pretending to confuse his wife for a man, or saying things like "I was going to buy you a beautiful hair barrette, but then I realized that you cut your hair too short for things like that."

You may prefer direct communication, but that doesn't automatically make all indirect communication "passive aggressive".

I'm not confused, people just use the term "passive aggressive" in slightly different ways. I started using it to refer to things that don't seem directly "aggressive" after going to therapy.

Another example of what I think is "passive aggressive": say I wished my husband made more money, but I didn't want to say "I wish you made more money" because that sounded mean. So instead I pointed out our neighbor's boat and said "wow, isn't that such an awesome boat? How great for them that they have that boat." This way I can express a desire for change without having to take any sort of accountability for it. My husband would have to read through the lines to get a sense of what I was really saying, and if he got offended and said "it sounds like you don't think I make enough money," I could say "oh no I just think it's great of them." A hint would be more like "hey did you notice this job opening?" Or "have you considered doing [x] with your hair?" (So PP is right that looking through a magazine and commenting wouldn't necessarily be passive aggressive, I just imagined OP saying "doesn't she look nice with that haircut, honey?" So I stand corrected, maybe it would be fine).

I actually don't always prefer direct communication and I think that often it's a bad way to go.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

The Kate Gosselin cut is awful now, as it was awful then. But many of these cuts are just shorter women's cuts that look to me like what all the newscasters used to wear, and many professional women (like the last three). It's sort of shitty to tell white middle aged women that they all have to have long hair or they will look like a "Karen" -- I don't have one of those cuts, but I think they are a legitimate, easy care, flattering cut for many women, especially when middle-aged hormones start to wreak havoc on your hair.

Agree, a lot of this is just misogyny. Remember Michelle Williams’ haircut in those sexy Louis Vuitton ads? I bet some of these posters would call that a Karen cut - and I suspect that upward of 99% of them are far less attractive than she is with that cut.

Anonymous wrote:America has a bizarre cult of long hair. Lots of women in Europe (at least in Nordic and West Europe) have short hair, and different styles. Here it's all the same. And there are weird stereotypes that surround it too.

This is so true. Western European women wear short hair much more often and they seem to do fine attracting men lol.

The right hairstyle for any person, male or female, is one that they like and one that looks good on them. That’s it.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

As a man, I think the cut looks hot. What a shame that it had to be politicized!

Oh sweetheart. It's not politicized. Sometimes a bad haircut is just a bad haircut.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

As a man, I think the cut looks hot. What a shame that it had to be politicized!

I am not a man and "Karen" cut looks awful (and ages Kate Gosselin for no reason) in my taste. I love this French actress short hair styles (but a woman should have really pretty face to wear it). I wonder what men think of it?

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/juliette-binoche-on-french-style-and-life-advice-24838756.html

Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetrendspotter.net/karen-haircut/
Here's what they look like.

I have a hairstylist friend who actually specializes in "the Karen", lol. Most women get them because they don't have time to style their hair everyday, or need something low maintanance on a daily basis. They do require a lot of cutting / trims, so that's more money for the stylist, less daily time for the woman.

As a man, I think the cut looks hot. What a shame that it had to be politicized!