Anonymous
08/30/2022 23:38
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the references to culture to be laughable as if DC is so full of culture. Whenever people claim that some place "has no culture", I just take it to mean that it's not like where they came from. It reminds me of the Yellowstone scene between Kayce and Tate in front of the ice cream store, where they describe how the transplants move to their town and rebuild it to resemble the places that they decided to leave.
Agreed. Like what culture are they referring to in DC, Philly, NY, etc. etc.? Illegal dirt bike riding and shootings? Omg, like anyone is missing out on so much 'culture' relative to the COL and tax price tags. The only culture people miss out from not living in urban cities is the decline of civilization.
Art? What world class artist is NOT represented in NYC? Now tell me what world renowned galleries I can find in rural Oklahoma?
I love when people say oooh the arts, oooh the museums. How often does the average college-educated resident go to a museum? Maybe once every few years.
Exactly.
All these clowns do is get wasted on Fridays and Saturday paying $25 for a glass of wine or cocktail and waste all their weekends hungover.. OooOoo. 'art!'. Pfff....you go to those maybe once a year, if that. Meanwhile, the city of NY is socking you $10k just for the stupid privilege of living in an overcrowded trashy city. All of that money could be used for savings in a retirement account earning compound interest or paying off student loan debt. But nah, gotta have the 'culture'.
Cold climate inner-city “culture”…
Someone I know who moved from Miami was happy to get out of there. They said that all people talked about was going to clubs (and these were couples with young kids) and whether they should open a club. I guess club culture is big there even for parents .
Florida is a large state. Much larger than Miami Beach, which most southern Florida locals avoid.
FL is about water and fun in the sun and not dealing with seasons and state taxes, and any irrationally prolonged pandemic restrictions (a new attraction point for those who hated mask and vax mandates and closure of businesses and schools). There is really nothing else special about FL IMHO and especially it's suburban sprawl, it's not even vasly different from the residential burbs of other states.
Anonymous
08/30/2022 23:33
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know a few of my friends that moved to Florida, and only one of them are Republicans, is this an outliers? Are more Republican's moving to Florida than Dems?
FL had a boom during the pandemic, take a guess why. Take a guess why tax free red states like FL and TX had an influx of overtaxed citizens of NY and CA whose states had the strictest Covid restrictions and mandates and most radical social/equity justice reforms. This isn't even about republicans migrating or those who used to be democrats switching their political leaning. It's probably more about opportunism, finally saving on state taxes and RE prices (when you come from most expensive places in the USA) started to make sense with remote work, and unfavorable changes to QOL brought on by their states local Covid policies and going a bit too far to the left in other aspects had pushed them to make that move for greener pastures.
A huge factor was that FL had open schools during most of the pandemic. Florida man is smarter than often assumed
Anonymous
08/30/2022 23:14
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:I know a few of my friends that moved to Florida, and only one of them are Republicans, is this an outliers? Are more Republican's moving to Florida than Dems?
FL had a boom during the pandemic, take a guess why. Take a guess why tax free red states like FL and TX had an influx of overtaxed citizens of NY and CA whose states had the strictest Covid restrictions and mandates and most radical social/equity justice reforms. This isn't even about republicans migrating or those who used to be democrats switching their political leaning. It's probably more about opportunism, finally saving on state taxes and RE prices (when you come from most expensive places in the USA) started to make sense with remote work, and unfavorable changes to QOL brought on by their states local Covid policies and going a bit too far to the left in other aspects had pushed them to make that move for greener pastures.
Anonymous
08/30/2022 23:00
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the references to culture to be laughable as if DC is so full of culture. Whenever people claim that some place "has no culture", I just take it to mean that it's not like where they came from. It reminds me of the Yellowstone scene between Kayce and Tate in front of the ice cream store, where they describe how the transplants move to their town and rebuild it to resemble the places that they decided to leave.
Agreed. Like what culture are they referring to in DC, Philly, NY, etc. etc.? Illegal dirt bike riding and shootings? Omg, like anyone is missing out on so much 'culture' relative to the COL and tax price tags. The only culture people miss out from not living in urban cities is the decline of civilization.
Art? What world class artist is NOT represented in NYC? Now tell me what world renowned galleries I can find in rural Oklahoma?
I love when people say oooh the arts, oooh the museums. How often does the average college-educated resident go to a museum? Maybe once every few years.
Exactly.
All these clowns do is get wasted on Fridays and Saturday paying $25 for a glass of wine or cocktail and waste all their weekends hungover.. OooOoo. 'art!'. Pfff....you go to those maybe once a year, if that. Meanwhile, the city of NY is socking you $10k just for the stupid privilege of living in an overcrowded trashy city. All of that money could be used for savings in a retirement account earning compound interest or paying off student loan debt. But nah, gotta have the 'culture'.
It may not be important to you (which is fine). But it is important to some of us that we can take our kids to the occasional show, that they are raised in a multicultural environment and that we can take them to museums etc once in a while on a Saturday morning. My kids are not art critics or anything but they have grown up going to museums a couple of times a year. Like most kids similarly situated on the socio economic ladder wherever they live in the US, they spend most of their time going to school, sports practice, ECs, and perhaps a part time job. But sometimes it’s the 5% time stuff that will stick. At least I hope so.
Hey guess what, you can do that in Florida, too. Jesus, how provincial are people on this free website?!
I grew up in Florida. I am telling you I couldn’t live the life I wanted where I was born and raised. But it’s a free country. So I picked where I wanted to be. Why does bother you?
Anonymous
08/30/2022 22:58
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the references to culture to be laughable as if DC is so full of culture. Whenever people claim that some place "has no culture", I just take it to mean that it's not like where they came from. It reminds me of the Yellowstone scene between Kayce and Tate in front of the ice cream store, where they describe how the transplants move to their town and rebuild it to resemble the places that they decided to leave.
Agreed. Like what culture are they referring to in DC, Philly, NY, etc. etc.? Illegal dirt bike riding and shootings? Omg, like anyone is missing out on so much 'culture' relative to the COL and tax price tags. The only culture people miss out from not living in urban cities is the decline of civilization.
Art? What world class artist is NOT represented in NYC? Now tell me what world renowned galleries I can find in rural Oklahoma?
I love when people say oooh the arts, oooh the museums. How often does the average college-educated resident go to a museum? Maybe once every few years.
Exactly.
All these clowns do is get wasted on Fridays and Saturday paying $25 for a glass of wine or cocktail and waste all their weekends hungover.. OooOoo. 'art!'. Pfff....you go to those maybe once a year, if that. Meanwhile, the city of NY is socking you $10k just for the stupid privilege of living in an overcrowded trashy city. All of that money could be used for savings in a retirement account earning compound interest or paying off student loan debt. But nah, gotta have the 'culture'.
Cold climate inner-city “culture”…
Someone I know who moved from Miami was happy to get out of there. They said that all people talked about was going to clubs (and these were couples with young kids) and whether they should open a club. I guess club culture is big there even for parents .
Florida is a large state. Much larger than Miami Beach, which most southern Florida locals avoid.
Anonymous
08/30/2022 22:48
Subject: Re:Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Spouse and I and 2 kids moved from MoCo to a ruby red small city in Florida 3 years ago. Family/job reasons.
We're center left politically, UMC, and spouse is a URM.
We certainly don't fit in here socially as well we did in DC, but have plenty of friends (some like-minded, some not). We've always been comfortable being friends, or at least friendly, with folks who don't share our political views, so not a problem for us.
Plenty of cultural opportunities, even in this small metro area.
The biggest upside has been outdoor activities. We're water people, and when we're not in or on the water, we're hiking, biking or playing outdoor sports. Has been great for the kids and for our happiness.
So overall, a good experience.
Have traveled the world and lived all over the US and could live happily in about 100 different places. Feel sorry for people who are less flexible.
I could have written this very post!
Greetings from a "neighbor"
Anonymous
08/30/2022 20:53
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the references to culture to be laughable as if DC is so full of culture. Whenever people claim that some place "has no culture", I just take it to mean that it's not like where they came from. It reminds me of the Yellowstone scene between Kayce and Tate in front of the ice cream store, where they describe how the transplants move to their town and rebuild it to resemble the places that they decided to leave.
Agreed. Like what culture are they referring to in DC, Philly, NY, etc. etc.? Illegal dirt bike riding and shootings? Omg, like anyone is missing out on so much 'culture' relative to the COL and tax price tags. The only culture people miss out from not living in urban cities is the decline of civilization.
Art? What world class artist is NOT represented in NYC? Now tell me what world renowned galleries I can find in rural Oklahoma?
I love when people say oooh the arts, oooh the museums. How often does the average college-educated resident go to a museum? Maybe once every few years.
Exactly.
All these clowns do is get wasted on Fridays and Saturday paying $25 for a glass of wine or cocktail and waste all their weekends hungover.. OooOoo. 'art!'. Pfff....you go to those maybe once a year, if that. Meanwhile, the city of NY is socking you $10k just for the stupid privilege of living in an overcrowded trashy city. All of that money could be used for savings in a retirement account earning compound interest or paying off student loan debt. But nah, gotta have the 'culture'.
Cold climate inner-city “culture”…
If you think Miami doesn't have "inner-city culture" you are high. It's a big city with all the usual big city problems, tons of homeless, drugs, unemployment and crime. Also there is traffic, expensive parking, expensive rents and housing prices that are only a bargain if you come from Manhattan or pricey Bay Area burbs. It has a lot of natural beauty, nice skyline and great beaches for the city, definitely can offer a high standard of living for people with $$$, including families seeking private education. Those without $$$ will be choked by high housing prices and daily rut of traffic and poor public transit. The only consolation is warm weather and beaches, but it's not for everyone either if you hate many months of heat, humidity and frequent storms.
Anonymous
08/30/2022 19:35
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the references to culture to be laughable as if DC is so full of culture. Whenever people claim that some place "has no culture", I just take it to mean that it's not like where they came from. It reminds me of the Yellowstone scene between Kayce and Tate in front of the ice cream store, where they describe how the transplants move to their town and rebuild it to resemble the places that they decided to leave.
Agreed. Like what culture are they referring to in DC, Philly, NY, etc. etc.? Illegal dirt bike riding and shootings? Omg, like anyone is missing out on so much 'culture' relative to the COL and tax price tags. The only culture people miss out from not living in urban cities is the decline of civilization.
Art? What world class artist is NOT represented in NYC? Now tell me what world renowned galleries I can find in rural Oklahoma?
I love when people say oooh the arts, oooh the museums. How often does the average college-educated resident go to a museum? Maybe once every few years.
Exactly.
All these clowns do is get wasted on Fridays and Saturday paying $25 for a glass of wine or cocktail and waste all their weekends hungover.. OooOoo. 'art!'. Pfff....you go to those maybe once a year, if that. Meanwhile, the city of NY is socking you $10k just for the stupid privilege of living in an overcrowded trashy city. All of that money could be used for savings in a retirement account earning compound interest or paying off student loan debt. But nah, gotta have the 'culture'.
Cold climate inner-city “culture”…
Someone I know who moved from Miami was happy to get out of there. They said that all people talked about was going to clubs (and these were couples with young kids) and whether they should open a club. I guess club culture is big there even for parents .
I miss Miami! Parents can go clubbing because Parent Club hours start after happy hour/dinner. You see this in Miami when you go to a random restaurant for dinner then leave and suddenly there's a red carpet, bouncer, and line of 30-40s couples lined up waiting to get in. It's unfashionable and embarrassing in your 20's to show up at the club before midnight then they go until 6am.
Anonymous
08/30/2022 19:26
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the references to culture to be laughable as if DC is so full of culture. Whenever people claim that some place "has no culture", I just take it to mean that it's not like where they came from. It reminds me of the Yellowstone scene between Kayce and Tate in front of the ice cream store, where they describe how the transplants move to their town and rebuild it to resemble the places that they decided to leave.
Agreed. Like what culture are they referring to in DC, Philly, NY, etc. etc.? Illegal dirt bike riding and shootings? Omg, like anyone is missing out on so much 'culture' relative to the COL and tax price tags. The only culture people miss out from not living in urban cities is the decline of civilization.
Art? What world class artist is NOT represented in NYC? Now tell me what world renowned galleries I can find in rural Oklahoma?
I love when people say oooh the arts, oooh the museums. How often does the average college-educated resident go to a museum? Maybe once every few years.
Exactly.
All these clowns do is get wasted on Fridays and Saturday paying $25 for a glass of wine or cocktail and waste all their weekends hungover.. OooOoo. 'art!'. Pfff....you go to those maybe once a year, if that. Meanwhile, the city of NY is socking you $10k just for the stupid privilege of living in an overcrowded trashy city. All of that money could be used for savings in a retirement account earning compound interest or paying off student loan debt. But nah, gotta have the 'culture'.
Cold climate inner-city “culture”…
Someone I know who moved from Miami was happy to get out of there. They said that all people talked about was going to clubs (and these were couples with young kids) and whether they should open a club. I guess club culture is big there even for parents .
Anonymous
08/30/2022 19:24
Subject: Re:Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Florida is like the Dollar Store version of California.
buuuurn.
To be fair, FLA won't have those problems because it will be underwater.
Also, enjoy Hurricane season, dying manatees, algae blooms, invasive reptiles in your backyard, and condominiums sinking into the beaches. Yeah, FLA sounds great.
Yea, but PP said "buuuurn". So enjoy the burn, I guess.
My healthcare covers burns. So does the ACA.
FL did not expand medicaid so I guess low income people are SOL. But who cares about poor people. Rs sure don't.
PP suffering from burns is not in Florida. So we are all good.
plenty of people suffer from sunburns in FL, and it's not like Floridians are all that healthy. Their obesity rate is fairly high.
Anonymous
08/30/2022 18:53
Subject: Re:Do you know people that moved to Florida?
I know a few, they moved for different reasons. One family actually moved for a job, so it's not all retirees or those wanting second homes with $$$, or those opportunistically looking for higher QOL to try things out
Anonymous
08/30/2022 12:25
Subject: Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find the references to culture to be laughable as if DC is so full of culture. Whenever people claim that some place "has no culture", I just take it to mean that it's not like where they came from. It reminds me of the Yellowstone scene between Kayce and Tate in front of the ice cream store, where they describe how the transplants move to their town and rebuild it to resemble the places that they decided to leave.
Agreed. Like what culture are they referring to in DC, Philly, NY, etc. etc.? Illegal dirt bike riding and shootings? Omg, like anyone is missing out on so much 'culture' relative to the COL and tax price tags. The only culture people miss out from not living in urban cities is the decline of civilization.
Art? What world class artist is NOT represented in NYC? Now tell me what world renowned galleries I can find in rural Oklahoma?
I love when people say oooh the arts, oooh the museums. How often does the average college-educated resident go to a museum? Maybe once every few years.
Exactly.
All these clowns do is get wasted on Fridays and Saturday paying $25 for a glass of wine or cocktail and waste all their weekends hungover.. OooOoo. 'art!'. Pfff....you go to those maybe once a year, if that. Meanwhile, the city of NY is socking you $10k just for the stupid privilege of living in an overcrowded trashy city. All of that money could be used for savings in a retirement account earning compound interest or paying off student loan debt. But nah, gotta have the 'culture'.
Cold climate inner-city “culture”…
Anonymous
08/30/2022 12:15
Subject: Re:Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Florida is like the Dollar Store version of California.
buuuurn.
To be fair, FLA won't have those problems because it will be underwater.
Also, enjoy Hurricane season, dying manatees, algae blooms, invasive reptiles in your backyard, and condominiums sinking into the beaches. Yeah, FLA sounds great.
Yea, but PP said "buuuurn". So enjoy the burn, I guess.
My healthcare covers burns. So does the ACA.
FL did not expand medicaid so I guess low income people are SOL. But who cares about poor people. Rs sure don't.
PP suffering from burns is not in Florida. So we are all good.
Anonymous
08/30/2022 11:22
Subject: Re:Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Florida is like the Dollar Store version of California.
buuuurn.
To be fair, FLA won't have those problems because it will be underwater.
Also, enjoy Hurricane season, dying manatees, algae blooms, invasive reptiles in your backyard, and condominiums sinking into the beaches. Yeah, FLA sounds great.
Yea, but PP said "buuuurn". So enjoy the burn, I guess.
My healthcare covers burns. So does the ACA.
FL did not expand medicaid so I guess low income people are SOL. But who cares about poor people. Rs sure don't.
Anonymous
08/30/2022 10:27
Subject: Re:Do you know people that moved to Florida?
Spouse and I and 2 kids moved from MoCo to a ruby red small city in Florida 3 years ago. Family/job reasons.
We're center left politically, UMC, and spouse is a URM.
We certainly don't fit in here socially as well we did in DC, but have plenty of friends (some like-minded, some not). We've always been comfortable being friends, or at least friendly, with folks who don't share our political views, so not a problem for us.
Plenty of cultural opportunities, even in this small metro area.
The biggest upside has been outdoor activities. We're water people, and when we're not in or on the water, we're hiking, biking or playing outdoor sports. Has been great for the kids and for our happiness.
So overall, a good experience.
Have traveled the world and lived all over the US and could live happily in about 100 different places. Feel sorry for people who are less flexible.
We're center left politically, UMC, and spouse is a URM.
We certainly don't fit in here socially as well we did in DC, but have plenty of friends (some like-minded, some not). We've always been comfortable being friends, or at least friendly, with folks who don't share our political views, so not a problem for us.
Plenty of cultural opportunities, even in this small metro area.
The biggest upside has been outdoor activities. We're water people, and when we're not in or on the water, we're hiking, biking or playing outdoor sports. Has been great for the kids and for our happiness.
So overall, a good experience.
Have traveled the world and lived all over the US and could live happily in about 100 different places. Feel sorry for people who are less flexible.