And I meant it made sense for high school because they can skip the education degree part.

Yes I meant people with related degrees. I wasn’t talking about random people trying to pass these tests.

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Anonymous wrote:The praxis subject test should be required for all teachers. The passing score is in the low-mid sixty percent. We are moving subs who have BA degrees and failed the subject test to teacher residents for HS. How will they answer any questions let alone teach math or science?

HS Teacher.

+1 Keep them as long-term subs until they can pass the test and then move up to resident. That will provide motivation for those who are capable and won't be misleading those who are not. If they are a long-term sub, then at least parents KNOW they need to supplement/support their kid more in that subject area.

+2. As someone who has taken multiple Praxis II tests, if you can't pass them, you shouldn't be teaching your content area. They set a pretty low bar. And if you can't pass the regular Praxis (or whatever the other reading test is that you have to take)/have a high enough SAT to not take it, then you also probably should not be teaching.

Anonymous wrote:The praxis subject test should be required for all teachers. The passing score is in the low-mid sixty percent. We are moving subs who have BA degrees and failed the subject test to teacher residents for HS. How will they answer any questions let alone teach math or science?

HS Teacher.

+1 Keep them as long-term subs until they can pass the test and then move up to resident. That will provide motivation for those who are capable and won't be misleading those who are not. If they are a long-term sub, then at least parents KNOW they need to supplement/support their kid more in that subject area.

The praxis subject test should be required for all teachers. The passing score is in the low-mid sixty percent. We are moving subs who have BA degrees and failed the subject test to teacher residents for HS. How will they answer any questions let alone teach math or science?

HS Teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:We have hired subs into teaching resident jobs for next year who have failed the praxis. Maybe our teachers who mentor them can help them pass it. Desperate times at our HS.

At the HS level this can make sense. I know career switchers and former military more than qualified to teach high level math and science but don’t want to deal with getting a license. Some go to catholic school because Va license isn’t required.

How are they more than qualified to teach high level math and science if they can't pass the praxis?

Because they have phds or masters in chemistry and physics or engineering. You think they can have those high degrees and the only the praxis can determine if they are qualified to teach it?

Your response was to the person who was talking about people who failed the praxis being hired as resident teachers. It sounded then like you were suggesting that they failed the praxis and were still "more than qualified" to teach high level math. When the praxis directly tests your math knowledge. It doesn't make sense and you didn't say anything about them having graduate degrees.

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Anonymous wrote:We have hired subs into teaching resident jobs for next year who have failed the praxis. Maybe our teachers who mentor them can help them pass it. Desperate times at our HS.

At the HS level this can make sense. I know career switchers and former military more than qualified to teach high level math and science but don’t want to deal with getting a license. Some go to catholic school because Va license isn’t required.

How are they more than qualified to teach high level math and science if they can't pass the praxis?

Because they have phds or masters in chemistry and physics or engineering. You think they can have those high degrees and the only the praxis can determine if they are qualified to teach it?

But if so then they should have 0 problem passing a relatively easy test.

I can see them not wanting to do all the teacher licensing requirements which can be a pain, but the praxis seems like a reasonable bar to go over. It's not like the schools are being flooded with people with STEM graduate degrees. Maybe there can be an exception if you have a grad degree in the field you want to teach--but that's not really an argument for making there be no test for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have hired subs into teaching resident jobs for next year who have failed the praxis. Maybe our teachers who mentor them can help them pass it. Desperate times at our HS.

At the HS level this can make sense. I know career switchers and former military more than qualified to teach high level math and science but don’t want to deal with getting a license. Some go to catholic school because Va license isn’t required.

How are they more than qualified to teach high level math and science if they can't pass the praxis?

Because they have phds or masters in chemistry and physics or engineering. You think they can have those high degrees and the only the praxis can determine if they are qualified to teach it?

But if so then they should have 0 problem passing a relatively easy test.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have hired subs into teaching resident jobs for next year who have failed the praxis. Maybe our teachers who mentor them can help them pass it. Desperate times at our HS.

At the HS level this can make sense. I know career switchers and former military more than qualified to teach high level math and science but don’t want to deal with getting a license. Some go to catholic school because Va license isn’t required.

How are they more than qualified to teach high level math and science if they can't pass the praxis?

Because they have phds or masters in chemistry and physics or engineering. You think they can have those high degrees and the only the praxis can determine if they are qualified to teach it?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have hired subs into teaching resident jobs for next year who have failed the praxis. Maybe our teachers who mentor them can help them pass it. Desperate times at our HS.

At the HS level this can make sense. I know career switchers and former military more than qualified to teach high level math and science but don’t want to deal with getting a license. Some go to catholic school because Va license isn’t required.

How are they more than qualified to teach high level math and science if they can't pass the praxis?

Anonymous wrote:We have hired subs into teaching resident jobs for next year who have failed the praxis. Maybe our teachers who mentor them can help them pass it. Desperate times at our HS.

At the HS level this can make sense. I know career switchers and former military more than qualified to teach high level math and science but don’t want to deal with getting a license. Some go to catholic school because Va license isn’t required.

I’m a teacher who took a long break and has to renew my license a few years ago and take all the praxis again and the VRE. On top of having a bachelors in elementary education. But I guess we really are desperate.

We have hired subs into teaching resident jobs for next year who have failed the praxis. Maybe our teachers who mentor them can help them pass it. Desperate times at our HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone here actually gotten a teaching job through this program?

My school is hiring them. Sounds like former IAs.

Moving former IAs into this role seems like a good idea. I just wish they would require them to pass the praxis first. 1) If they are really far from passing it, they really shouldn't be teachers; 2) If they are unable to pass it, they are going to put in the hard work of teaching and it will go nowhere.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone here actually gotten a teaching job through this program?

My school is hiring them. Sounds like former IAs.