Oh no! Your child has no chance at success!!!!@@@ wahhhh

ED1 or 2 to a SLAC for better results. My high-stats kid is at Pomona after being deferred from Brown ED. Great result.

Anonymous wrote:My son with a 1590 (CS major, recruit at d3 schools, walk on potential at d1) was Accepted at MIT (supported by coaches), Amherst, Princeton, and Brown. Waitlisted from Harvard. Rejected from Caltech (supported by coaches), UPenn, and Yale

Thanks for sharing. I am sure he is doing great things!

My son with a 1590 (CS major, recruit at d3 schools, walk on potential at d1) was Accepted at MIT (supported by coaches), Amherst, Princeton, and Brown. Waitlisted from Harvard. Rejected from Caltech (supported by coaches), UPenn, and Yale

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Anonymous wrote:The UVA data can also be obtained through the Common Data Set.

https://ira.virginia.edu/cds-2021-22

The middle 50% for the ACT was 32-35.

21% submitted ACT scores.
51% submitted SAT scores

Easier to see in the raw data that UVA provides: 2800 of 3800 students who enrolled submitted test scores.

So 588 students submitted ACT scores out of 3800? And of those 588, 75% of scores were above 35? Something like 441 students out of 3800 have above a 35 ACT? It isn’t like a 3800 students are walking around UVA with 35 or 36 ACT scores. Come on!

Where are you getting 75% were above 35? The 25 - 75% is 32-35 per CDS. So approx 200 kids with above a 35. Totally reasonable with a super score. Surprised not more.

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Anonymous wrote:The UVA data can also be obtained through the Common Data Set.

https://ira.virginia.edu/cds-2021-22

The middle 50% for the ACT was 32-35.

21% submitted ACT scores.
51% submitted SAT scores

Easier to see in the raw data that UVA provides: 2800 of 3800 students who enrolled submitted test scores.

So 588 students submitted ACT scores out of 3800? And of those 588, 75% of scores were above 35? Something like 441 students out of 3800 have above a 35 ACT? It isn’t like a 3800 students are walking around UVA with 35 or 36 ACT scores. Come on!

+1 I think people see 75 percentile and think the majority of students are in the top 1%.

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Anonymous wrote:The UVA data can also be obtained through the Common Data Set.

https://ira.virginia.edu/cds-2021-22

The middle 50% for the ACT was 32-35.

21% submitted ACT scores.
51% submitted SAT scores

Easier to see in the raw data that UVA provides: 2800 of 3800 students who enrolled submitted test scores.

So 588 students submitted ACT scores out of 3800? And of those 588, 75% of scores were above 35? Something like 441 students out of 3800 have above a 35 ACT? It isn’t like a 3800 students are walking around UVA with 35 or 36 ACT scores. Come on!

Anonymous wrote:Not saying early bloomers aren't doing amazing things, but there are exceptional people who aren't doing exceptional things in high school.

How to find these people is the question.

Sounds like they need to start blooming, and then the elite institutions can find them.

Anonymous wrote:Son's good friend had a 1600 and was a double legacy at Harvard. Rejected. This was two years ago.

The legacy whiners need to read this again. And again. In my observation, this is not at all atypical.

Anonymous wrote:The UVA data can also be obtained through the Common Data Set.

https://ira.virginia.edu/cds-2021-22

The middle 50% for the ACT was 32-35.

21% submitted ACT scores.
51% submitted SAT scores

Easier to see in the raw data that UVA provides: 2800 of 3800 students who enrolled submitted test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:If Asian

Know three kids with perfect scores: 1 Asian male, 1 white male, 1 white female. All of them also had perfect SAT subject tests. All had 4.0 u/w GPAs. All played sports, all were varsity captains. All had great ECs, the female also had published science research. Males rejected in SCEA at an Ivy, female deferred at an Ivy. In the end, both males got into an Ivy RD and female was rejected at all Ivies in RD, now headed to a top liberal arts school.

If anything, RD seemed to break better for boys than girls based on observing my DC's graduating class.

That was true for my daughter, class of 2021. Perfect scores, perfect grades. Strong extracurriculars. Rejected or waitlisted at HYP, Stanford, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown. Got into Duke, Northwestern, Columbia, Chicago, and the Michigan and Maryland honors programs.

Acceptances at Duke, Northwestern, Columbia, Chicago and Michigan is an embarrassment of riches. My kid doesn’t have perfect anything but I am hoping her 35 ACT and very rigorous schedule will amount to an acceptance at one place she is really excited about. I absolutely look at your child’s list as half full list of wins vs. a half empty list of rejections.

In fact, I think the idea that kids have one great choice they are excited about is the takeaway from this thread. Most seem to (although there may have been one or two who didn’t). Any particular school is low odds for any applicant. No one should expect to get in everywhere and best not to have a single ride or die choice. So you got rejected from Harvard - you got into Duke (for example). celebrate!!

The UVA data can also be obtained through the Common Data Set.

https://ira.virginia.edu/cds-2021-22

The middle 50% for the ACT was 32-35.

21% submitted ACT scores.
51% submitted SAT scores

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s one for the UVA boosters.

Son had a 36 ACT and was accepted everywhere but UVA. He would have been out of state. He is at his first choice…a top 20…not an ivy.

Have fun bumping this comment UVA fans.

That’s actually not surprising. The 75th percentile of entering first year students last year at UVA had a 35, so those above had a 36. Also that is the score for f the students who actually showed up. The scores of those accepted are even higher but some go off to Ivies or great SLACs. My UVA kid had a 36 and was valedictorian and Gold Award

You (or someone else) keeps saying the 75th percentile was a 35 ACT. I haven’t heard 1) What percentage of those applying and entering submitted scores? 2) What percent of test submitters sent ACT scores? Without knowing the answers to these questions, the 35 ACT statistic isn’t that helpful. I am sure that information is out there somewhere!

The State Council For Higher Education in the Commonwealth in Virginia. look it up in Wikipedia. It’s the most valuable tool there is for parents and College counselors there is nothing like it in any other state

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Anonymous wrote:If Asian

This. My kid has 1600, 4.0, NMS, ECs, magnet curriculum, 12 APs, full pay, internship and was rejected from some highly selective schools for cs. No biggie. Going to state school with generous merit scholarship, double major, research opportunity etc.

He is getting a new car and 25K from us as a thank you for saving us a ton of money.

My URM scored 1580 (one sitting) on his SATs, 4.6 GPA with all 5 APs,NMF- He was rejected at both of his reach schools Georgetown (SFS) and Northwestern. He is at UMD honors with the presidential scholarship and NMF money. We bought him a brand new car, are paying for 2 study abroad programs and he will have money for grad school.

My niece attended Northwestern on full pay, still got semester abroad, car and grad school paid by parents. It says nothing, more money can give kids more privilege.

New car, semesters abroad, college, grad school, law school, medical school, down payment to condo, wedding… don’t parents usually pay for this in dmv.even middle class ones?

Son's good friend had a 1600 and was a double legacy at Harvard. Rejected. This was two years ago.