Anonymous
07/21/2022 03:21
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were told to preserve all records including text and they deleted it all. Must be nice to not have to worry about the laws or instructions from your boss.
Why are these agents not suspended along with whoever was nominally in charge? Wonder how this would work if the president is assassination? Do they purge all records including who was on duty?
They did fail to find a bomb planted at the DNC when the VP was there.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/06/harris-was-inside-dnc-on-jan-6-when-pipe-bomb-was-discovered-outside-526695
Either it was gross ineptitude or they’re so far gone they were trying to get Harris murdered.
I’m seeing the phrase Praetorian Guard bandied around a bit on line and I have to agree.
Worse: how many other “Praetorian Guards” are in the government right now?
Anonymous
07/21/2022 00:03
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
Anonymous wrote:They were told to preserve all records including text and they deleted it all. Must be nice to not have to worry about the laws or instructions from your boss.
Why are these agents not suspended along with whoever was nominally in charge? Wonder how this would work if the president is assassination? Do they purge all records including who was on duty?
They did fail to find a bomb planted at the DNC when the VP was there.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/06/harris-was-inside-dnc-on-jan-6-when-pipe-bomb-was-discovered-outside-526695
Anonymous
07/20/2022 23:32
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
I guess USSS does not have to follow orders. You go to the planning meetings, they assign you your responsibilities. When the day comes you think I don’t want to do what I was assigned. I’ll go get a beer at the bar over there. What are they going to do to me…I am a USSS..no one can touch us!
Anonymous
07/20/2022 23:28
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
They were told to preserve all records including text and they deleted it all. Must be nice to not have to worry about the laws or instructions from your boss.
Why are these agents not suspended along with whoever was nominally in charge? Wonder how this would work if the president is assassination? Do they purge all records including who was on duty?
Why are these agents not suspended along with whoever was nominally in charge? Wonder how this would work if the president is assassination? Do they purge all records including who was on duty?
Anonymous
07/20/2022 23:14
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
Anonymous wrote:If Secret Service doesn't start coming clean, there needs to be heads rolling.
Heads should have been rolling when Biden took office. Heads should have been rolling last week when the USSS spokesperson got into a public mudslinging contest with the DHS IG. Heads should have rolled yesterday when we learned that they deleted these texts and have been engaged in a coverup. We haven't even seen DHS Secretary Mayorkas make a statement.
While I am glad that Biden is President, this is simply another instance where I think he/his Administration is not up for the moment we're in. I think I agree with the poster on the first page that suggested the USSS should be dissolved and re-built from the ground up. It's clear it's corrupt and bloated. Get State's Diplomatic Protection and the intel agencies protective services in for a brainstorming session and poach leaders out of there. Cut out USSS financial crimes and cyber mission, which are better handled elsewhere and get things back on track.
Anonymous
Anonymous
07/20/2022 22:42
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
If Secret Service doesn't start coming clean, there needs to be heads rolling.
Anonymous
07/20/2022 22:41
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
They've been corrupt for a long time. Nothing ever happens to them, just like nothing will happen to those Uvalde cops.
Anonymous
07/20/2022 22:28
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.
Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.
It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.
They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.
As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.
Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.
My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.
You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.
Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.
And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.
Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?
As someone who’s spent quite a bit of time various “teams” (ours and theirs ((and no one calls them “teams”, fyi - they’re PD’s or PQRF’s)) I tell you with absolute certainty that “their” guys are every bit as toxic masculine as ours.
It’s the personality trait of guys like that. Doesn’t matter where they’re from or what language they speak or who they work for, they’re all the same guys.
It takes a brave individual to pretend to risk their life every day while working for an agency with an on the job mortality rate approaching zero. Maybe they should try their hand at a more dangerous job if the adrenaline rush is wearing off- crossing guard comes to mind.
+1
Their most critical skill is paying attention to details even when their days are boring.
Have higher stands for everyone, America. No excuses for unprofessional, a-hole behavior.
Anonymous
07/20/2022 22:09
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.
Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.
It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.
They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.
As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.
This is total bullcrap. There are other Presidential appointees that travel with CAT teams. Not only do those CAT teams not engage in the kind of behavior the Secret Service has engaged in they would be immediately dismissed if they did so. The culture of the agency organization does not permit it either. There is no concept of being "off-duty" when traveling with the principal.
Anonymous
07/20/2022 21:35
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.
Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.
It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.
They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.
As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.
well, I hate breaking it to you but this is reality, not a Gerald Butler movie. in addition to mega- alpha-male testosterone and big, big balls, the job requires a brain. poeple who do not understand that when you are in a Latin American country to protect the president you cannot go to a local strip club, get drunk and engage with prostitutes, or , in DC, having strangers pay $4000 for your rent of a fancy apartment downtown with pool and so on, should take they big balls and dragged them somewhere else and find a new job
Anonymous
07/20/2022 20:33
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.
Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.
It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.
They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.
As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.
Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.
My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.
You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.
Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.
And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.
Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?
Fish rots from the head. And Munchin was a very skeezy guy who was available to the highest bidder.
Anonymous
07/20/2022 20:30
Subject: The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency
Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.
Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.
It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.
They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.
As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.
They haven’t been in the line of fire in 40+ years. How much do they really expect to put their bodies in harms way? More or less than the Uvalde SWAT Team?
I don’t normally want the military within 1000 feet of Civilian Command. But at least you know the military men and women they would chose would show up sober, take the job seriously, and, yes, take a bullet. Unless the current crop of whores and lushes.