She was formidable and , yes, savvy, and in reviewing her career as a business partner something else stands out: she molded, guided and was a trusted advisor to her 1st husband.

I've known many women to mentor a man this way and history is full of these Josephine like stories but ya' know what- in EVERY case those women are at least a decade older than their husbands that they are guiding

Anonymous wrote:Ivana’s mother is still alive. Poor lady.

Oh really?
I had no idea.

Poor woman is right.

Anonymous wrote:Ivana’s mother is still alive. Poor lady.

Also, interesting

I read that she died from a fall, possibly falling down the stairs.

That is tragic - I wonder if she had been discovered earlier, if she could have been saved.

I never really liked Ivana’s politics + rarely agreed with a word she said, however may she Rest in Paradise. 🕊🕊🕊

^^^ Jeff already told you “her family is not the subject of this thread.” Please respect that.

I guess you can start trashing the deceased lady all you want since your 48 hours should soon be over.

The other night I saw even Don Lemon glorifying Ivana Trump on CNN. He apparently knew her personality, and was full of accolades for her. He seemed to be in awe of her, especially her never ending kindness.

May she Rest In Peace.
Peace & Love to Everyone here.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. So sad that she passed. I almost hope she died before she fell because if she fell and needed help and died lying alone there would be such a terrible death. I am surprised that no one lived with her. I would think she have had live in help even for security reasons. It feels like everyday I am hearing about someone dying lately. Depressing time.

It's not an uncommon death for the age in place crowd. Over the past 10 years 4 of my friends have lost parents to falls and many of us had parents fall and be stuck for hours before discovered. it's so hard to get them to agree to the level of help needed.

I was not a fan of the book recommended here..something like "On being Mortal" but it does help me make peace with the fact my mother could die the same way. She is stubborn, refuses help, considered cognitively fine and has a staircase from hell. If she dies falling down those steps, it's on her terms living the way she wants.

But 73 is a bit young to be considered “aging in place” - and it’s young for Assisted Living. And obviously had every resource at her disposal.

He death was very shocking because she was so vibrant and larger than life.

She hasn’t been vibrant in ages. She’s been shuffling around for years. She appeared incredibly feeble for her age. My mom is 86 and way more nimble and bright than Ivana was these past 7 years.

I think stress took it's toll-mental and physical. I think Donald could go through many divorces and be fine, but if you have a heart, 4 divorces and one ex dying young it a massive amount of stress and we don't know about other stressors. Plastic surgery is also a stress on the body and it's not good to go under anesthesia so much. We don't know what decades of other non-invasive procedures can do to the body. We don't know about ski injuries and other issues from when she was an athlete. Also money purchased silence. She accused Donald of RAPE and then altered story after a massive pay-out. The trauma is still there and I bet she was someone who didn't believe in things like psychotherapy. She has seen her children dragged through the mud (even if they deserve it). It's all a lot of the handle without proper self care-which isn't just fancy restaurants and fancy friends-it's digging deep and processing.

I hope she didn’t suffer. It sounds like a horrible way to die.

Anonymous wrote:So sounds like she fell down the stairs and broke neck?

I thought I read blunt force injuries to the torso. So maybe ruptured something and died from internal bleeding.

I believe she lost her partner not long ago, maybe last year? Had she been seen with her children in recent years? I am very curious about their relationship and how their roles during Donald’s presidency impacted their relationship with her.

Go to elder care, people.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. So sad that she passed. I almost hope she died before she fell because if she fell and needed help and died lying alone there would be such a terrible death. I am surprised that no one lived with her. I would think she have had live in help even for security reasons. It feels like everyday I am hearing about someone dying lately. Depressing time.

It's not an uncommon death for the age in place crowd. Over the past 10 years 4 of my friends have lost parents to falls and many of us had parents fall and be stuck for hours before discovered. it's so hard to get them to agree to the level of help needed.

I was not a fan of the book recommended here..something like "On being Mortal" but it does help me make peace with the fact my mother could die the same way. She is stubborn, refuses help, considered cognitively fine and has a staircase from hell. If she dies falling down those steps, it's on her terms living the way she wants.

But 73 is a bit young to be considered “aging in place” - and it’s young for Assisted Living. And obviously had every resource at her disposal.

He death was very shocking because she was so vibrant and larger than life.

Actually, 73 is well within the nursing home age. Plenty of younger people in assisted living. But of course she had ample resources, so probably would not have gone that route even if much older.

Is it? My parents are 75 and 78, and their friends are all around that age. They’re all still living in the same houses they’ve lived in for decades, socializing, traveling, going to events. They’re all pretty average middle class/UMC folks. Some are talking about moving into condos, but assisted living seems far in the future.

My parents are 72 & 73 but have several friends in their late 70s and early 80s who are all still very active and able to care for themselves.

I think, regardless of economic status, it matters that you stay busy once you reach 70+. Those who stay busy seem to have better quality of life. My aunt is 74 and very active but my uncle, also 74, is very sedentary. He started having lots of health issues related to his lifestyle pre-pandemic and they've only gotten worse, especially weight gain during the pandemic.

My oldest aunt is 86 and still lives on her own and still drives in her small town. She gets rides for longer destinations but other than that, she's fully capable of being on her own and keeps as active as an almost 90 year old woman can.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. So sad that she passed. I almost hope she died before she fell because if she fell and needed help and died lying alone there would be such a terrible death. I am surprised that no one lived with her. I would think she have had live in help even for security reasons. It feels like everyday I am hearing about someone dying lately. Depressing time.

It's not an uncommon death for the age in place crowd. Over the past 10 years 4 of my friends have lost parents to falls and many of us had parents fall and be stuck for hours before discovered. it's so hard to get them to agree to the level of help needed.

I was not a fan of the book recommended here..something like "On being Mortal" but it does help me make peace with the fact my mother could die the same way. She is stubborn, refuses help, considered cognitively fine and has a staircase from hell. If she dies falling down those steps, it's on her terms living the way she wants.

But 73 is a bit young to be considered “aging in place” - and it’s young for Assisted Living. And obviously had every resource at her disposal.

He death was very shocking because she was so vibrant and larger than life.

Actually, 73 is well within the nursing home age. Plenty of younger people in assisted living. But of course she had ample resources, so probably would not have gone that route even if much older.

Is it? My parents are 75 and 78, and their friends are all around that age. They’re all still living in the same houses they’ve lived in for decades, socializing, traveling, going to events. They’re all pretty average middle class/UMC folks. Some are talking about moving into condos, but assisted living seems far in the future.

My parents who grew up poor and were never more than middle class lived fine on their own until they hit 80, by 85 they were more feeble.

Anonymous wrote:RIP Ivana. A class act. She raised three wonderful children who have contributed much to our country and society. And of course was a big influence, partner and friend of “The Donald” as she famously nicknamed him. She will be missed.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. So sad that she passed. I almost hope she died before she fell because if she fell and needed help and died lying alone there would be such a terrible death. I am surprised that no one lived with her. I would think she have had live in help even for security reasons. It feels like everyday I am hearing about someone dying lately. Depressing time.

It's not an uncommon death for the age in place crowd. Over the past 10 years 4 of my friends have lost parents to falls and many of us had parents fall and be stuck for hours before discovered. it's so hard to get them to agree to the level of help needed.

I was not a fan of the book recommended here..something like "On being Mortal" but it does help me make peace with the fact my mother could die the same way. She is stubborn, refuses help, considered cognitively fine and has a staircase from hell. If she dies falling down those steps, it's on her terms living the way she wants.

But 73 is a bit young to be considered “aging in place” - and it’s young for Assisted Living. And obviously had every resource at her disposal.

He death was very shocking because she was so vibrant and larger than life.

She hasn’t been vibrant in ages. She’s been shuffling around for years. She appeared incredibly feeble for her age. My mom is 86 and way more nimble and bright than Ivana was these past 7 years.

Anonymous wrote:A world class professional athlete, classy and smart.

...One of our most outstanding immigrants.