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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

Ryan Fitzpatrick and James Blake

Jeremy Lin!

^ You are totally missing PP’s point. The whole point of college is to get an education, so who cares if the sports teams are not as well-known??

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Anonymous wrote:I watch a lot of parents in my DC’s sport get all excited about playing D1 at some totally no-name school. Not my philosophy but some people are desperate to play D1

Yeah, it makes very little sense to me. Isn't the point of college to get a good education. Its not like many turn pro after graduating from a D1 college. Personally, I think D3 is the best of both worlds - athletics yes but education first.

Not in my DC's sport. The D3 schools are much less well-known.

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Anonymous wrote:I watch a lot of parents in my DC’s sport get all excited about playing D1 at some totally no-name school. Not my philosophy but some people are desperate to play D1

Yeah, it makes very little sense to me. Isn't the point of college to get a good education. Its not like many turn pro after graduating from a D1 college. Personally, I think D3 is the best of both worlds - athletics yes but education first.

+1 fully agree

I am surprised at how small of advantage being a good athlete at most Div. 3 schools confers on a student. Hence the pre-reads, and a commitment to applying early decision if it works out. I suspect that this is likely how things "should be" in terms of putting athletics into proper perspective.

My own experience at a Power 5 D1 school on scholarship - a very highly ranked one - is that while I was no great shakes I was above the mean in scores and grades, and did not run across another scholarship athlete on my team who has the academic chops to do really well in the classroom. My roommate was so far behind the curve academically he suffered depression. He should have transferred to a much better fit. Insanely talented at athletics, but never could perform as he was simply overwhelmed. I might add I worked pretty hard for a 3/7 gpa - never again have I ever worked so hard, even at a top ranked grad school. Our walk-ons, however, were great students and used the competitive nature of sports to amplify their classroom performance. It is perhaps the hardest D1 school to get into east of the Mississippi. The walk-ons were great role models because they used their time wisely. This was then the "best" of D1 academically.

My brother, also on athletic scholarship and a multiple All American, was the only member of his team to do well academically. He went to a well known athletic factory in again a Power 5 conference. He wanted the travel schedule and the resources. The school is not easy to get into out of state, so of course the school finds a way to admit his then unqualified girlfriend. He had a 4.0 in math, and was Phi Beta Kappa. Well known Phd in Econ now. About half his team had GPA's below 2.0, with some having ACT scores in the range of 9-11. They were good athletes, I might add - more than just good. Very nice guys too, just not students. I received an email from one of his All American teammates a while back telling me he was destined to flunk out but my brother taught him to study, enabling him to finish with a 2.5. I was a guest at his training table one Sunday - steak and lobster if the football team won - beans and franks if they lost - yes - it was that absurd - and while enjoying the steak and lobster with a guest pass I saw a future NFL Hall of Famer - maybe the best defensive player ever- shove a soda machine off a balcony to crash below. it was a whole different world.

If this makes you feel better about the integrity of DIII athletics, well, it should. DIII is the best model for athletics.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

That's the point...and when you can't get into the athletic bottom but top of education of the D1 you try for the NESCAC. Not sure why this is controversial beyond all the "club" parents that wanted larla and larlo to reach the pinnacle of greatness...sad.

Lol... you're crapping on students using sports to access the nescac league when you used sports to access the ivy league.

Dealing with you people is so sad, you just don't get it.

OP just wanted some feedback about pre reads. If you want to start a thread about your superstar, go ahead. In this thread, how about spend more time on the topic and less time being a tiresome, insecure, blowhard.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

That's the point...and when you can't get into the athletic bottom but top of education of the D1 you try for the NESCAC. Not sure why this is controversial beyond all the "club" parents that wanted larla and larlo to reach the pinnacle of greatness...sad.

Lol... you're crapping on students using sports to access the nescac league when you used sports to access the ivy league.

Dealing with you people is so sad, you just don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:I watch a lot of parents in my DC’s sport get all excited about playing D1 at some totally no-name school. Not my philosophy but some people are desperate to play D1

Yeah, it makes very little sense to me. Isn't the point of college to get a good education. Its not like many turn pro after graduating from a D1 college. Personally, I think D3 is the best of both worlds - athletics yes but education first.

Keep convincing yourself of that.

Anonymous wrote:I watch a lot of parents in my DC’s sport get all excited about playing D1 at some totally no-name school. Not my philosophy but some people are desperate to play D1

Yeah, it makes very little sense to me. Isn't the point of college to get a good education. Its not like many turn pro after graduating from a D1 college. Personally, I think D3 is the best of both worlds - athletics yes but education first.

Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

Ryan Fitzpatrick and James Blake

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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

That's the point...and when you can't get into the athletic bottom but top of education of the D1 you try for the NESCAC. Not sure why this is controversial beyond all the "club" parents that wanted larla and larlo to reach the pinnacle of greatness...sad.

Lol... you're crapping on students using sports to access the nescac league when you used sports to access the ivy league.

I watch a lot of parents in my DC’s sport get all excited about playing D1 at some totally no-name school. Not my philosophy but some people are desperate to play D1

Anonymous wrote:Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

That's the point...and when you can't get into the athletic bottom but top of education of the D1 you try for the NESCAC. Not sure why this is controversial beyond all the "club" parents that wanted larla and larlo to reach the pinnacle of greatness...sad.

Who is going to harvard for the boost for their pro athlete career? They are going for the education and using sports to get in. Outside of polo and yatching, how many pro athletes went to harvard?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you unaware that some athletes can barely write? This is just to make sure your kid is literate. Don't make this hard.

At NESCAC schools, there are not many illiterate athletes

That's because it's basically a continuation of club and HS sports and you have to have decent grades even as a recruited athlete. No one beyond students, parents and some alumni even pay attention to D3 sports.

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So what?

Pretty clear...there aren't any illiterate athletes because they have to be decent students to begin with. The athletics aren't making the school any money so the product doesn't have to be very good which is why they can recruit decent but not great athletes that have good grades.

Mine is a top D1 recruit who is just waiting to hear from NESCACS today before turning down a major offer. You actually don't know what you're talking about.

Suuuure

Key word being top. All of these parents understandably touting their kids are delusional. I get it Larla and Larlo are tops in your eyes but D1 is not created equal. The only reason you choose a NESCAC for atheltics is because you were not good enough to get into a top D1 that would further your sport or that met your academic needs (Ivy). Top swimmers, LAX or soccer players are not trading UMD, UVA and Stanford for Bowdoin and Colby...get a grip people.

UMD doesn't even have a swim team, so there's that. There are plenty of people who would choose Williams or Amherst over UVA for the academics, just FYI. Stanford, no. But UVA and Stanford aren't even close to being in the same boat...

You people are insufferable. Glad your kid is getting a great education at a NESCAC due to athletic achievement. BLUF, they were not top D1 material, that's OK...relish the fact they gained admission to a great academic institution and leave it at that. It's not a slight on your kid, making a top D1 for athletics is tough. It's a lot easier being a great student and OK athlete making it to an NESCAC where they can enjoy playing their sport and receive a great education. But don't fool yourselves, your kid's are not top D1 material.

Lol. Who is insufferable?

You

I know some ivy athletic recruits. Hardworking, smart, talented athletes...and not arrogant bores..not even the parents. Nice combination of attributes.

Agree, but Ivy is not top D1. The hardworking, smart, somewhat talented athletes that couldn't get into the Ivy League and want the good education go to the NESCAC. I know these parents want to champion their kid's because they are proud and put in the hours at the club level driving and missing weekends but reality is their kid was a slightly above average athlete with above average academics. That's OK, own it and be proud your kid got into a school they would not otherwise have gotten into.

Harvard is starting to get top 10 nationally in some sports. Don’t sleep on them

I won't, when Harvard reaches prominence in a sport outside of tennis and crew I'll bite. Until then they are just another mediocre D1 Conference that loses when they play anyone in a prominent conference outside of theirs.