Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:07
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.
How was that supposed to happen? McConnell controlled the senate.
Not for the entire Obama administration. He was in the minority from 2007-2015. The Democrats could have replaced RBG with whoever they wanted during Obama’s first couple of years.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:05
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.
You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.
Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses
You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!
Of course not. RBG should have realized her own mortality, understood the ramifications of losing that seat and retired on her own. Obama gently tried to suggest this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html
RBG decided not to retire and Amy Comey Barrett wound up with her seat. People can canonize her all they want but these are facts, as ugly as they are. We are now living with the results.
Blaming RBG for McConnell breaking his own "norms" to jam Barratt through is quite rich.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:05
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
She should’ve retired when the Dems controlled both houses under Obama. There was a window.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:04
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.
You wouldn't have wound up with a Merrick Garland situation because from 2009 -2015 Obama had the Senate votes to replace RBG with whoever he wanted. The only time in Obama's tenure (the 114th congress, Jan 2015 on) when there was a (very strong) Republican control of the senate. At that point the Repubs had 54 senate votes and there was nothing Obama could do to either replace RBG or get Garland on SC.
Had RBG retired earlier, Obama easily could have replaced her with whoever he wanted (within reason) and the Republicans would have had little recourse and would have had to resort to Christine Blasey-Ford/Anita Hill type tactics, if they so chose, to attempt to stop it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses
You think the President should have forced a Supreme Court justice to retire against her will?!
It is what Trump did with Kennedy. But then again, RBG didn't have anything Obama could hold over her to force her out, the way Trump did.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:04
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin
This can apply to aborted babies as well
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:02
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.
What do you think the Dems and Obama could have done to seat Garland?
Recess appointment.
You understand that a recess appointment isn't permanent, right?
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:02
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R
I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.
Yes, you sound extremely kind. /s
go ahead and justify the evil and hateful things that party has done, then. Go ahead, I'm waiting
I don't consider anything Republicans have done "evil or hateful." Sorry to disappoint!
DP no surprise here. That's to be expected of Republicans.
Right? I was done with anybody justifying taking babies from their mothers at the border and locking up children...then losing them. That was it for me. That is a crime against humanity, and you mf-ers wrote it off like it was nothing.
Sick, sick, sick
I find it more sick that the children were often not the offspring of those transporting them, and that a lot of the kids were raped/trafficked along the way.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:02
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Why do people keep saying this? How do we know we wouldn't have ended up with another Merrick Garland situation? I bet that but for Merrick Garland she would have retired.
Then blame Obama and the Dems for not fighting to seat Garland. I do. I also blame RBG.
How was that supposed to happen? McConnell controlled the senate.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:00
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
But the R's who support MAGA are complicit with what is happening, so yes, they are MAGA. Just own it.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 07:00
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
Disagree with the bolded, agree with the underlined.
And also, blame McConnell who literally stole the seat occupied by Gorsuch.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 06:59
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:I have tried to be understanding toward my R friends and I can't any longer. I'm done being nice and trying to "see their side." I'm over it. The Republican party is the party of MAGA and I'm done trying to separate my R friends from the MAGAs. They're under your tent and you can no longer all yourself a Republican, yet say, but well I'm not MAGA. sorry can't have it both ways. I just don't know how to handle my R friends moving forward. In the past, I would reconcile it with we can agree to disagree and that was hard enough on issues like BLM and vaccines. Now I just cannot make any more exceptions after Roe.We don't even talk politics, but just knowing what they support makes my blood boil. Some of them are single issue votes (e.g., Israel) and that angers me even more because they choose this party for one issue only without looking at the bigger picture. I'm just going to have to find a way to still be friends and look for the positives, but I just cannot separate them from the MAGAs--they are the MAGAs whether they wear the red hat or not. ugh.
There is a difference between traditional conservatives and the MAGA set.
The traditional conservaitves I know have moved on from the GOP and are voting Democrat in the upcoming election. Like Cheney and Kintzinger, they understand the authoritarian/fascist threat the MAGAs post on the country and world.
I don't have any MAGA friends. I won't stay silent and be complicit with their fascism.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 05:38
Subject: Republican Friends
we can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist - James Baldwin
Anonymous
06/27/2022 03:33
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a Dem with a different opinion.
Roberts didn’t want it to go down this way. Three activist justices appointed by Trump did this. Blame them, not all R’s.
And blame RBG for not retiring. And all the Dems who hated HRC and voted for Trump.
Not all R’s are maga. This decision might be a wake up call for R women.
While I’m a lifelong Dem, I’m not an AOC super lefty.
Let’s focus on bringing women and men together to fight this instead of drawing more lines.
No, but Rs who keep voting R have decided that they're okay with MAGA, and it's time to start calling a spade a spade.
They s X1000. Republicans are OK if religious zealots force women to die, gun nuts get to buy assault weapons and kids are mass murdered, black people kept from voting, and a bunch of white trash tries to overthrow the government. I don’t care if it’s because they are selfish, closet crazy, or suffering from mental decline their votes are against basic human rights and they’ve enabled the MAGAs. The MAGAs wouldn’t exist without them because they wouldn’t have power. As long as Republicans keep voting Republican when the party holds an extreme position they are no better and not welcome in our circles.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 02:07
Subject: Republican Friends
This post just shows how utterly immature OP is. The term infantile comes to mind. You’re incapable of complexity, moral thought experiments, or having two thoughts that might conflict. You live in a black and white, all or nothing world and act on emotion. You are small minded and judgmental yet accuse others of being so.
Anonymous
06/26/2022 23:43
Subject: Republican Friends
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have stepped back from anyone MAGA. The friends with brains and decency no longer vote R
I am a kind person, which is why I can no longer support anyone being in such an evil party as the Republican Party.
Yes, you sound extremely kind. /s
go ahead and justify the evil and hateful things that party has done, then. Go ahead, I'm waiting
I don't consider anything Republicans have done "evil or hateful." Sorry to disappoint!
Cool--what about the Republicans that marched through Charlottesville shouting Jews will not replace us? Or, are those not Republicans?
I don't consider those thugs mainstream Republicans, nope. I mean, do you consider LWNJs mainstream Democrats?
They're not Republicans? Which party do they represent then? Who did they support for President? You're living in a fantasy. There's no such thing as a mainstream Republican anymore. The MAGAs n Charlottsville and who invaded the Capitol--that IS your party. I don't care what party LWNJs affiliate with--probably the Green Party, but they're welcome to vote Democratic if they want.
As long as you admit that BOTH parties have their share of nutjobs.
No. That a total false equivalency. The most radical liberals do not come close to the creeps who attacked our nation’s capital.
Really? Please, do go on.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/20/us/new-york-lawyers-molotov-cocktail/index.html
https://ktvz.com/news/oregon-northwest/2020/07/03/portland-police-feds-make-10-arrests-in-federal-courthouse-attack-riot/#:~:text=Portland%20police%2C%20feds%20make%2010%20arrests%20in%20federal,federal%20officials%20called%20a%20%22significant%20escalation%20in%20violence.%22
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/portland-protesters-us-agents-clash-federal-building-72649553
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/portland-police-chief-slams-incomprehensible-violence-says-rioters-target-local-officers-with-mortars-and-commercial-grade-fireworks/
Yeah, dude, false equivalency! You idiots stormed the United States Capitol and killed two police officers on your way to kill the Vice President of the United States! You believe in Qanon, Sandy Hook conspiracies, Covid as a hoax. You drive your cars into peaceful protests and defend murmuring scum shooting protesters!
You have no fricking leg to stand on ever trying to make our sides anywhere close to equal!!