Anonymous
06/25/2022 23:09
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:Not conflicted. I may be personally conflicted over having an abortion but would never remotely think my views should dictate another woman’s agency over her own body. I’m appalled and furious.
Agree! I was raped at age 16. Thankfully, I did not get pregnant, but even if I had, my ultra religious mother was on board with me getting rid of that rape monster fetus.. Op if you are Catholic and went to Catholic Schools like I did, you were indoctrinated to think abortion was bad by the very same priests who were simultaneously raping children. Hypocrites! Time to think your own thoughts OP.
Anonymous
06/25/2022 23:07
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Abortions are easily obtained in Europe. Who keeps repeating the lie that they are not?
Start reporting those posters.
Poland- abortion only available if pregnant result of a crime.
Italy - only available for first 90 days of pregnancy unless special circumstances
France - just expanded access from up to 12 weeks to up to 14 weeks
No.
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France - now up to 14 weeks on demand, without any restrictions. Permitted past that point if two physicians certify that the abortion will be done to prevent grave harm to the woman (including harm to mental health), risk to the woman's life, or with some severe and incurable disorders of the fetus.
Italy - available for the first 90 days including for financial or social reasons
Poland- abortion only available if pregnant result of a crime or when the woman's life or health is at risk
Anonymous
06/25/2022 23:05
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Abortions are easily obtained in Europe. Who keeps repeating the lie that they are not?
Start reporting those posters.
Poland- abortion only available if pregnant result of a crime.
Italy - only available for first 90 days of pregnancy unless special circumstances
France - just expanded access from up to 12 weeks to up to 14 weeks
France - now up to 14 weeks on demand, without any restrictions. Permitted past that point if two physicians certify that the abortion will be done to prevent grave harm to the woman (including harm to mental health), risk to the woman's life, or with some severe and incurable disorders of the fetus.
Italy - available for the first 90 days including for financial or social reasons[/i]
Poland- abortion only available if pregnant result of a crime [b]or when the woman's life or health is at risk
Anonymous
06/25/2022 22:57
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Abortions are easily obtained in Europe. Who keeps repeating the lie that they are not?
Start reporting those posters.
Poland- abortion only available if pregnant result of a crime.
Italy - only available for first 90 days of pregnancy unless special circumstances
France - just expanded access from up to 12 weeks to up to 14 weeks
So all more liberal laws than what the fascists have done to America? And late term abortions are available all across the continent for the same reasons that women got them here - you just persisted in thinking that women were murderers who waited til as late as possible for maximum carnage.
You still don’t know what late term abortions were for and you still don’t get that ABORTION IS NOW FUNCTIONALLY ILLEGAL ACROSS THE US. You’re fighting some deranged battle that you’ve already “won.” Although my version of “winning” would feature far fewer dead women, but I guess that’s a plus for you.
Anonymous
06/25/2022 22:48
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:Abortions are easily obtained in Europe. Who keeps repeating the lie that they are not?
Start reporting those posters.
Poland- abortion only available if pregnant result of a crime.
Italy - only available for first 90 days of pregnancy unless special circumstances
France - just expanded access from up to 12 weeks to up to 14 weeks
Anonymous
06/25/2022 22:47
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Not conflicted. I may be personally conflicted over having an abortion but would never remotely think my views should dictate another woman’s agency over her own body. I’m appauled and furious.
Anonymous
06/25/2022 22:40
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Abortions are easily obtained in Europe. Who keeps repeating the lie that they are not?
Start reporting those posters.
Start reporting those posters.
Anonymous
06/25/2022 21:54
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:I’m not conflicted because I believe that rape victims should never be required by law to carry their rapist’s baby to term. You could say, well why can’t we just make abortion illegal—except in cases of rape or incest? Sounds like a reasonable, compromise solution but how would it work logistically? Rape victims would rightfully want to terminate the pregnancy immediately after the rape occurred, but it takes months, if not years, to adjudicate a rape case in a court of law. Who exactly would make the call as to whether a rape actually occurred and an abortion could go forward? A judge, a policeman, a government bureaucrat? Wouldn’t they need to review the evidence first? That takes a lot of time and it’s not like the fetus will stop growing until this is figured out. What if there is no physical evidence of a rape? What do you do then?
Several thousand dusty and not remotely followed up on rape kits plus “what was she wearing?/she was asking for it/he didn’t have a choice when she teased him like that” point out that Republicans already don’t care about women and rape.
Actually I could go on in that line of thinking. They basically told military women to shut up about it and paired it with the “you were asking for it” line.
Anonymous
06/25/2022 21:52
Subject: how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:I can see both sides. Not critical of either side. I wish there was an easy middle of the road answer. I do feel puzzled?
Are you trolling? Are you this stupid? What are you puzzled about? The safe, legal abortions that affected you and your life only in the most beneficial ways or the women dying from missed miscarriages, the tweens forced to birth their 20 year old rapists’ baby, the college and career and life that will be gone to a 17 year old who made a stupid mistake one night, the pregnant woman who bleeds out, the desperate mother of three she already can’t afford to feed dying of sepsis… and all the while misogynists smacking their lips and laughing at the enslavement of women, plotting the national ban on abortion and then banning birth control (all of which they have proudly announced while you “puzzle”).
Gee, it’s so puzzling!
Anonymous
06/25/2022 21:49
Subject: Re:how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
I’m not conflicted because I believe that rape victims should never be required by law to carry their rapist’s baby to term. You could say, well why can’t we just make abortion illegal—except in cases of rape or incest? Sounds like a reasonable, compromise solution but how would it work logistically? Rape victims would rightfully want to terminate the pregnancy immediately after the rape occurred, but it takes months, if not years, to adjudicate a rape case in a court of law. Who exactly would make the call as to whether a rape actually occurred and an abortion could go forward? A judge, a policeman, a government bureaucrat? Wouldn’t they need to review the evidence first? That takes a lot of time and it’s not like the fetus will stop growing until this is figured out. What if there is no physical evidence of a rape? What do you do then?
Anonymous
06/25/2022 21:49
Subject: how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m voting republican to watch all of you seethe. It amuses my dark heart.
Seriously, unless medically necessary abortion after 15 weeks should be banned. Only selfish women with no empathy would choose to abort after that.
I’m appalled at how far society has sunk. Evil evil people.
Religion is for stupid people, like yourself.
You lost. Cope. Deal with it. And you are going to see many more losses at the court and in state legislatures soon on many issues. The Supreme Court will be conservative for a generation.
Oh, heart. If the religious tribunal - believed to be completely illegitimate by about 75% of America prior to them turning 100% of American women into their slaves - remains regressive for 25 years, it will only be because people like you are such sick little fascists.
Anonymous
06/25/2022 20:42
Subject: how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:I’m voting republican to watch all of you seethe. It amuses my dark heart.
Seriously, unless medically necessary abortion after 15 weeks should be banned. Only selfish women with no empathy would choose to abort after that.
I’m appalled at how far society has sunk. Evil evil people.
You're the evil one, princess. And Jesus can see your "dark heart" - enjoy eternal damnation.
Anonymous
06/25/2022 20:22
Subject: how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
I can see both sides. Not critical of either side. I wish there was an easy middle of the road answer. I do feel puzzled?
Anonymous
06/25/2022 20:18
Subject: how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
The only people who are conflicted or joyous about this ruling are either women haters or not very smart. Even if you believe that abortion is murder, the places with the lowest abortion rates are the ones where it is legal, but they also have universal healthcare, strong social safety nets, free child care, and paid maternity/paternity leave.
I can understand finding abortion distasteful. I can understand wanting to reduce abortions. Celebrating this decision, however means that you value feeling smug and morally superior over actually reducing abortion rates.
I can understand finding abortion distasteful. I can understand wanting to reduce abortions. Celebrating this decision, however means that you value feeling smug and morally superior over actually reducing abortion rates.
Anonymous
06/25/2022 20:03
Subject: how many of us are secretly conflicted about this ruling?
Anonymous wrote:I’m voting republican to watch all of you seethe. It amuses my dark heart.
Seriously, unless medically necessary abortion after 15 weeks should be banned. Only selfish women with no empathy would choose to abort after that.
I’m appalled at how far society has sunk. Evil evil people.
Seriously, eh? Are you so stupid that you don't understand no backwater Republican states will stand at 15 weeks? They plan to go 6 weeks or complete bans.
They will start outlawing IUD and some pills.
Death rates will skyrocket in those states because doctors will start avoiding treating pregnant age women altogether.