Anonymous wrote:NP here. I'm shocked with how many people are being so unsympathetic to what this kid is going through.

Alarms seem almost cruel to me, especially if the child is genuinely just wetting the bed in their sleep. Kids aren't supposed to wake up in the MOTN just to pee, not at that age. That's the entire point of Vasopressin/antidiuretic hormone production.

Let me repeat. It is NORMAL, developmentally, for a child that isn't producing ADH yet to wet in their sleep. Ask your pediatrican, I promise you, anyone that knows what they're talking about will tell you that bedwetting/Enuresis is hormone based, and is NOT something to be concerned about, absent an underlying medical cause.

Leave him alone for goodness sake. He won't wear pull ups in high school. Find something that keeps him dry all night, and let it go. He'll grow out of it once his body is ready.

I'm a PP whose kid successfully used an alarm. As I mentioned above, my father was a bedwetter and had plenty of stories of how he was shamed and punished by his father. It was awful. I don't disagree with anything you're saying about normal development. In my house we never treated my DS2's bedwetting as a problem. It was simply a fact of life that we dealt with. Really, it wasn't even a big deal because we didn't have much trouble with leaking

But my DS noticed that his younger sibling didn't wear pullups to bed, and he didn't like that. When he was invited to sleep over at my friend's house with her same-aged kid, my friend and I had to cook up a plan so that my friend would leave a pullup in the bathroom and my DS could go in there and secretly change into it before he went to bed and sneak in there in the morning to take it off, because it was so important to my DS that his friend not know. DS didn't believe me when I said bedwetting was normal, since as far as he could tell nobody he knew was wearing a pullup at night. So I told him we would ask the doctor. The doctor told him it was a normal thing, but we could try an alarm. DS really wanted to try it. So we did. And after several nights it started to work. DS was really happy. ~shrug~

Anonymous wrote:Same boat, OP, same boat…just know, you are not alone!

+1 my older DC stopped around 7, but his little sister just turned 8 and her pull up is still full every morning. It’s getting harder to find bigger sizes in the stores too. I was a late bedwetter and my mom gave me hell for it, so I’ve never harp on my own kids. But I do sometimes think of all the $$$ we’ve spent on goodnites over the years, sigh.

Op, I responded earlier about experiencing childhood bed wetting and being given medication. It seemed dated but looking up more info, specifically about enuresis and vasopressin led me to this article. Might bed worthwhile in reading to ask pediatrician about.

https://www.independentnurse.co.uk/clinical-article/understanding-the-underlying-causes-of-nocturnal-enuresis/164995/

Anonymous wrote:Take away the pull ups. He needs to feel when he pees. And take him for a pee around 10:30, 11 before you go to sleep.

Both of mine night trained like this either slightly before or after 4. Neither had dry diapers before. You just go for it.

This is different.

Take away the pull ups. He needs to feel when he pees. And take him for a pee around 10:30, 11 before you go to sleep.

Both of mine night trained like this either slightly before or after 4. Neither had dry diapers before. You just go for it.

Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?

What an idiotic response.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?

WTF are you talking about? I did nothing to toilet train my kids at night. We toilet trained them, and then they naturally stopped peeing at night. Which is what happens as most bodies mature a bit. For some kids, it's takes a long time. There is no "training", only mitigation straegies. The kid is asleep. It's not a conscious choice that they are making. Shame does not fix it! Surprise!

Yup I didn’t night train my older kids at ALL. Troll.

Anonymous wrote:It just occurred to me that I've been buying some form of diaper/pull-ups for my son for 7+ years now, as I was finalizing another amazon order for the things.

Sigh.

Am I the only one that feels utterly defeated that I have a 7 year old that still pees the bed EVERY. SINGLE. NIGHT?? I don't mean occasional accidents once in a blue moon, I mean he wakes up with his pull-up (we use Goodnites) full, like a single drop away from a gel-bead explosion. Very often, they leak anyways...which makes me feel all the more foolish for wasting money on pull ups for all these years. Last night he leaked through the Goodnight, through sheets, blankets, everything. He was wet up to his shoulders.

Does anyone have any kind of an alternative suggestion..? I'd even be willing to use cloth--as long as we can find something, anything...that could hold up to the amount of pee a 7 year old heavy wetter can put out overnight.

I did that till I was 12, almost every week, yet I became a competent professional practicing in DC.

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I'm shocked with how many people are being so unsympathetic to what this kid is going through.

Alarms seem almost cruel to me, especially if the child is genuinely just wetting the bed in their sleep. Kids aren't supposed to wake up in the MOTN just to pee, not at that age. That's the entire point of Vasopressin/antidiuretic hormone production.

Let me repeat. It is NORMAL, developmentally, for a child that isn't producing ADH yet to wet in their sleep. Ask your pediatrican, I promise you, anyone that knows what they're talking about will tell you that bedwetting/Enuresis is hormone based, and is NOT something to be concerned about, absent an underlying medical cause.

Leave him alone for goodness sake. He won't wear pull ups in high school. Find something that keeps him dry all night, and let it go. He'll grow out of it once his body is ready.

I did it until late into 9th grade so it is possible but still nothing to worry about.

When my son was 5 he started bed wetting (after #2 was born), I wake him up between 10-11 PM every night to go to bathroom. Those were tough 3-4 months. He was so drowsy he would let go on the way to the potty. Got me so angry but I had to clean up without making a sound.

NP here. I'm shocked with how many people are being so unsympathetic to what this kid is going through.

Alarms seem almost cruel to me, especially if the child is genuinely just wetting the bed in their sleep. Kids aren't supposed to wake up in the MOTN just to pee, not at that age. That's the entire point of Vasopressin/antidiuretic hormone production.

Let me repeat. It is NORMAL, developmentally, for a child that isn't producing ADH yet to wet in their sleep. Ask your pediatrican, I promise you, anyone that knows what they're talking about will tell you that bedwetting/Enuresis is hormone based, and is NOT something to be concerned about, absent an underlying medical cause.

Leave him alone for goodness sake. He won't wear pull ups in high school. Find something that keeps him dry all night, and let it go. He'll grow out of it once his body is ready.

My older son didn’t outgrow bed wetting until he was close to 13. We tried everything , he didn’t wake to alarms ,even us waking him during the night to use the bathroom twice didn’t stop him from wetting the bed. He was like your son , every night the bed was soaked no matter what we did, it started being a few times a week at 11 and then a few times a month at 12 and then finally tapered down to never by 13.
My younger girls never wet the bed , their dry diapers at night by 1.5 is when we realized they could probably potty train then, this isn’t a potty training issue, plenty of people are bedwetters.

It may help to have something close to the skin that feels wet (unlike a pull-up). If you're not interested in doing cloth diapers with assorted covers, you might try having a layer of cloth (just a strip of cut-up old t-shirt or his actual underwear) inside the pull-up. The sensation will be different and may trigger a night response to use the bathroom. Best wishes.

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Anonymous wrote:Same boat, OP, same boat…just know, you are not alone!

Thank you!! I know it sounds silly to be so worked up over something this small, but this morning I was really frustrated with dealing with wet....*everything* yet again, for the 4th day in a row. Sometimes it feels good just to know there's others out there dealing with this as well.

My DD is almost 7 and just recently was able to go without pull ups. Literally one day she said she was ready and she was. It's been a few months and I think she's had 2 accidents maybe?

Anonymous wrote:You have to toilet train for nighttime, did you just skip that part of the process?

That's actually not possible, but whatever makes you feel better about yourself.