Anonymous
Post 05/28/2022 21:21     Subject: Re:college red flags
Anonymous wrote:Are there differences in GPA requirement to maintain, etc for financial aid vs merit scholarship?


Yes, because the criteria which earned each are different.

I got one school to switch one award from FA to merit, because I knew my income would be going up and I trusted my kid to maintain a good GPA.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2022 21:17     Subject: college red flags
Anonymous wrote:When the entire identity of the school is tied to athletic performance.


I agree with you, but I think people like us rule such schools out from the get go.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2022 21:16     Subject: college red flags
Anonymous wrote:Off the list: any school where the leadership has caved to a Twitter mob before making a structured, transparent effort to collect facts and weigh them im good faith. On any subject

Any school that has disinvited a lecturer following a protest of any interest group.

Any school whose president apologizes for something they shouldn’t apologize for because of “optics.”

I have a top stats senior and it was really not easy to put together a list of target (yet lottery) schools that didn’t violate #1 or #2.




I really hope your kid agrees with these rules. They are quite strict and yes will limit you QUITE a bit.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2022 21:15     Subject: Re:college red flags
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD has a full tuition scholarship - letter says she gets it all four years as long as she maintains at least a 3.0. I assume the letter means what it says - did other people have similar wording and their offer still got yanked? I don’t see how that’s possible, since the four year offer was accepted and terms were met.


I'm the one who posted about my own and my nephew's experience. In both cases, it came as a complete shock because there were absolutely no indications of any conditions under which we had to maintain a certain grade point average, or any other conditions for renewal of the award. My parents would have been very vigilant that I was meeting the requirements, if there had been any. I got straight A's, was elected a freshman rep in the student government, played on teams, made good friends -was pretty much a model citizen. Same for my nephew - he was given no indications that there were conditions for his award.
I know that people want to believe that these colleges' decisions must have a rational basis, and my conclusion is that it has to do with wealthy private colleges hanging on to their wealth while simultaneously pumping up the stats for test scores of first year admits and their "yield."


I have never heard of a school that dies not impose conditions, such as full time enrollment for example.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2022 20:43     Subject: college red flags
Off the list: any school where the leadership has caved to a Twitter mob before making a structured, transparent effort to collect facts and weigh them im good faith. On any subject

Any school that has disinvited a lecturer following a protest of any interest group.

Any school whose president apologizes for something they shouldn’t apologize for because of “optics.”

I have a top stats senior and it was really not easy to put together a list of target (yet lottery) schools that didn’t violate #1 or #2.


Anonymous
Post 05/28/2022 16:42     Subject: college red flags
Anonymous wrote:and then there's this:
veterans beware:
https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2020/08/16/the-gi-bill-private-colleges-and-the-unfortunate-practice-of-swapping/#:~:text=Swapping%20is%20a%20practice%20whereby%20private%20colleges%20%E2%80%9Csuck,benefit%20the%20member%2C%20veteran%2C%20or%20eligible%20dependent%20receives.


This is a horrible bait & switch to pull on veteran families. WTF.

Greedy monsters.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 20:20     Subject: college red flags
and then there's this:
veterans beware:
https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2020/08/16/the-gi-bill-private-colleges-and-the-unfortunate-practice-of-swapping/#:~:text=Swapping%20is%20a%20practice%20whereby%20private%20colleges%20%E2%80%9Csuck,benefit%20the%20member%2C%20veteran%2C%20or%20eligible%20dependent%20receives.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 16:16     Subject: Re:college red flags
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are there differences in GPA requirement to maintain, etc for financial aid vs merit scholarship?

Remember that these are private colleges and universities. They can do whatever the hell they want to any time. They are not accountable for their financial ad decisions to anyone.


The wealthiest colleges have billions of dollars in their endowment funds, and they are among the worst offenders in capriciously cutting off scholarships for no discernable reason.
I was at a Princeton alum event a few years ago when I was asked to make a donation toward that year's stated goal of raising a billion dollars. I passed on that opportunity.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 15:16     Subject: college red flags
Red flag any red state college

I. Sure non of your princesses will have unprotected sex

And when civil rights for women go hahaha

Or leaving those states pregnancy tests sure
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 15:01     Subject: Re:college red flags
Anonymous wrote:Are there differences in GPA requirement to maintain, etc for financial aid vs merit scholarship?


The term “financial aid” applies to all forms of assistance-loans, merit scholarships, need-based scholarship, stipends, etc. A merit scholarship is based on merit of some sort (definition is totally up to the school’s criteria) Sometimes those criteria are clearly described, sometimes they are not.
Remember that these are private colleges and universities. They can do whatever the hell they want to any time. They are not accountable for their financial ad decisions to anyone.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 08:24     Subject: Re:college red flags
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We had a lot of considerations for our '22 high schooler.

Here is what we avoided -

- Most rabidly Republican states. Texas, Florida were no go.
- Schools that had lax Gun laws as mentioned in another thread, was a red flag - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_carry_in_the_United_States
- Party schools and schools with a strong Greek life
- Schools that had incidents of sexual harassment, rape or violence against women etc, racist tweets by their professors, attracted White supremacist's.
- Schools that had a lower percentage of diversity - racial and gender.

We also paid more attention to the ranking of the STEM major we wanted for our child vs the prestige of the school.


Doesn’t look like you are seeking diversity, at least not in political views, but rather more group-think.


No, honey, in 2022, we do not want "diversity" by going to school with a bunch of dumb Trumpers. Keep up.


NP-You have issues and are part of the problem. You are no worse than "dumb Trumpers" and your visions of harboring some sort of moral superiority is laughable. Even as ridiculous as you are, I wouldn't suggest my child avoid a school filled with a bunch of people that think like you if they liked other aspects of the school. People like you as well as "dumb Trumpers" are easily dismissed.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 07:56     Subject: college red flags
When the entire identity of the school is tied to athletic performance.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 06:09     Subject: Re:college red flags
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We had a lot of considerations for our '22 high schooler.

Here is what we avoided -

- Most rabidly Republican states. Texas, Florida were no go.
- Schools that had lax Gun laws as mentioned in another thread, was a red flag - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_carry_in_the_United_States
- Party schools and schools with a strong Greek life
- Schools that had incidents of sexual harassment, rape or violence against women etc, racist tweets by their professors, attracted White supremacist's.
- Schools that had a lower percentage of diversity - racial and gender.

We also paid more attention to the ranking of the STEM major we wanted for our child vs the prestige of the school.


Doesn’t look like you are seeking diversity, at least not in political views, but rather more group-think.


No, honey, in 2022, we do not want "diversity" by going to school with a bunch of dumb Trumpers. Keep up.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 06:08     Subject: Re:college red flags
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When the college is located in a state with human rights views wildly opposite of our own. That could mean different things to different people. I know what it means to mine. I'm not spending money in a state that loves guns more than children. I'm not spending money in a state that hates gay and transgender people. Other people might have different values, but those our ours.


Wow. You are so brave. 🙄


Wow. You are so defensive.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2022 06:06     Subject: college red flags
Anonymous wrote:Lots of nerds on this thread.

There's nothing wrong with a "strong Greek culture." It means the school is fun.


Yuck. No. It attracts dumb kids who grow up to be dumb adults who call people who are smarter than they are "nerds."